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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
that is your opinion not mine in terms of making the flyers. This year or next.
- hello it's me 2050


Correct.

Are you not high on Bobby Brink? My comment was more about him probably choosing to go pro following his Sophomore season which, unfortunately, he didn't really have. Definitely best for him to go back to school.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jul 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
If I call chuck fletcher and offer him my stand mixer in the kitchen which is almost like new with the bread hook and juicer attachments, do yo think I can get a first round pick out of him?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
It’s funny that when an offensive dman plays poor defensively, he’s worthless, but when a defensive dman plays poor defensively, it’s fine
- PhillySportsGuy


It can only be worse if the offensive defenseman plays poor defense and sucks at offense most of the time.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
Soo assuming risto is resigned and no other moves where does that leave us with coots contract? And if coots resigned that’s it isn’t it there definitely would be no cap left for foreseeable future.


Unless we have a replay of moves like this year right?🤮🤮🤮

- Stayin alive


Just mercifully let Coots and G walk please.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
everyone that said dont trade couts shoud be happy that we are trying to get better now. If that pick we just lost is like jay obrien or rubstov, then itll be 4-5 years before they can help us......... if at all. And if you wanted to keep couts, these trades are for you. got rid of our 3 worst players to be better now, tougher to play against
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Soo assuming risto is resigned and no other moves where does that leave us with coots contract? And if coots resigned that’s it isn’t it there definitely would be no cap left for foreseeable future.


Unless we have a replay of moves like this year right?🤮🤮🤮

- Stayin alive


Why are you worrying about Coots right now?

OMG what happens when Hart's new contract expires, what are they going to do?
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jul 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Soo assuming risto is resigned and no other moves where does that leave us with coots contract? And if coots resigned that’s it isn’t it there definitely would be no cap left for foreseeable future.


Unless we have a replay of moves like this year right?🤮🤮🤮

- Stayin alive

Still gonna trade jake I imagine.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jul 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
Why are you worrying about Coots right now?

OMG what happens when Hart's new contract expires, what are they going to do?

- Glak18

Technically they can extend coots right now
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
I see we still have our second round pick this year ? Must be a misprint.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
Should I run some stats for you? Do you even pay any attention to how the league views Risto? I am disappointed to see you and Hextall271 essentially join the SHOOT crowd, replacing SHOOT with HIIIIT. Y

ou want to win or you want to hit somebody? Should we bring back Jim Vandermeer?

- PT21


ahhhh the stats guy, yesterday you were passing it off as tomahawk is the stats guy
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
Love the trade for the sole reason that it brought out some posters I haven't seen for a while.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:33 PM ET
I see we still have our second round pick this year ? Must be a misprint.
- jmdodgeser4


lul
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
Just mercifully let Coots and G walk please.
- Tomahawk


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
Still gonna trade jake I imagine.
- Shrike



To Vancouver: Voracek, Frost
To Philly: Holtby, 2021 1st rounder


Vancouver is looking for a top 6 forward. They also get a prospect in Frost, with upside but coming over injury.

Flyers get 1 year of Holtby as a 1B goalie and a 2021 first rounder(#9) for tonight

Problem solved.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
This is worse than Eminger
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
Technically they can extend coots right now
- Shrike


They should have about $19mil going into next year. That includes Hart, Sanheim and Risto being resigned through next season. No worries about extending Couturier and Giroux if they decide to do so.
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jul 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
I know we're all shocked to give up 13th overall (maybe sillinger or a future NHL goalie) for Risto. Seems weird that we gave up on Myers because of his poor hockey sense despite his size, and then get Risto.

But to change the subject for a minute, I was floored by the draft. I know youth is nice and cheap, but it was pretty overboard on bottom six players. And they are still short on centers. I wonder what Seattle would offer for Laughton. He fits their profile of young cheap and fast, and he is a true center. He doesn't have a no trade clause. I really like Scott, but he disappears for long stretches and I never see him getting above the third line here, and even then not full time. On seattle, I see him as their second line center and thrilled to have him. I wonder if we could actually trade for something truly useful to us instead of these losing trades.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
Correct.

Are you not high on Bobby Brink? My comment was more about him probably choosing to go pro following his Sophomore season which, unfortunately, he didn't really have. Definitely best for him to go back to school.

- mochoson

agree with school. Just don't see him being anything but a 3rd line if that. That's fine as you need those types.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 3:37 PM ET
everyone that said dont trade couts shoud be happy that we are trying to get better now. If that pick we just lost is like jay obrien or rubstov, then itll be 4-5 years before they can help us......... if at all. And if you wanted to keep couts, these trades are for you. got rid of our 3 worst players to be better now, tougher to play against
- bradster

Yup. This roster finally doesn’t have any glaring holes heading into a season for once. G & and company have basically never had that luxury.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
You do realize that owndership brought chuck in to take action and blow up Hextalls draft and wait plan right?

Any thought that risto may be better on a better team with less minutes? It seems like you are in overreaction mode. I put a lot of stock in what Bill says as he’s very knowledgeable and he doesn’t seem to be running to bridge looking to jump.

- Hextall271

i keep forgetting about hextalls 12 yr plan
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
They should have about $19mil going into next year. That includes Hart, Sanheim and Risto being resigned through next season. No worries about extending Couturier and Giroux if they decide to do so.
- mickel25


Put Risto on the ice with those two as much as possible to get that AAV down
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
This is worse than Eminger
- PhillySportsGuy


Eminger turned into Carle tho, so maybe there's still hope?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
Technically they can extend coots right now
- Shrike


Yes, they can, but do they have to right now before the draft?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 23 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yup. This roster finally doesn’t have any glaring holes heading into a season for once. G & and company have basically never had that luxury.
- hereticpride

Goalie is a huge question mark
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 23 @ 3:39 PM ET
Play Riso, sheltered minutes. If you plan on playing him 20 a night, then these are the results you are going to get.

Since 2013, 68 defenseman have played at least 8,000 5v5 minutes. Where Rasmus Ristolainen ranks among them in:

Goals-For %: 68th
Shots-For%: 68th
Corsi-For%: 68th
Fenwick-For%: 68th
Goals-For/60: 68th
Goals-Against/60: 65th
xGF/60: 68th
xGA/60: 55th
Expected Goals-For%: 68th
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