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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Great. I hope you guys have one of the best #4 defensemen in the league for the next 5 years. Thanks for the first.

If its a win-win....great....it wasn't working for him here.

Good luck

- Blockhead


To be fair...no one is working in Buffalo.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Great. I hope you guys have one of the best #4 defensemen in the league for the next 5 years. Thanks for the first.

If its a win-win....great....it wasn't working for him here.

Good luck

- Blockhead


If he’s a solid # 4 then it is a win win.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
So just so I know....we are upset we gave up draft picks. Not players. But picks. Our worry today is about picks...not about making the team better?
- J35Bacher

This. We didn’t even give up current prospects.

Whoever they picked 13th was probably at least 3 years from making an impact. You have a vet core. You need to give them the surrounding pieces for once.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET


Btw, where you hiding out these days? And did you take Mononoke and AllInForFlyers with you?

- Tomahawk


Life happened. Kids, new job that requires me to actually work.

Honestly, the Flyers perpetual mediocrity got me apathetic. I just can’t get excited about this team. I don’t even remember the last time I actually got pumped after a win.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Think an extension is about the only thing that could make this trade even worse lol
- Tomahawk


I feel like they have to with the price they just paid.
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Couldn't the FLyers have traded for Oleksiak before the trade freeze/exclusive negotiating period for Seattle started?

They did something similar for Kevin Hayes and it cost a 5th round pick to do so.

So the FLyers could have saved the 1st and 2nd.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Probably still a few years away from that being a thing for most teams
- Nucker101


Trying to imagine Morey trading Maxey for MCW or some poop
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
One concern I have is coming from a losing leaderless team then having Captain Comfortable and Jake welcome you to the country club isnt ideal.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Part of the problem with some analytics is how the player is used by his coaches and what positions he is put in….Risto is a pretty polarizing player….he’ll fit in awesome here on the Bill’s Blog’s discussion board.
- landros 2


Dude some of those analytics show he was worse for the team he was on. Explain that to me.

Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Fletcher went to the Bill O'Brien school of GMing. A 1st and a 2nd for a guy on the final year of his contract in a rebuilding year. That's alot for a 1 yr rental when the Flyers are not even favored to make the playoffs and could use talented cheap labor on rookie contracts.

There is no way Fletcher, if he is still the GM this time next year, can let Risto walk without it being a total disaster. That's assuming that Risto even significantly improves the Defense.





ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
If he’s a solid # 4 then it is a win win.
- landros 2

Hes due a new contract and i assume is not going to tkae less than his 5.4 now.

So a 6 mill # 4 would be tought to swallow
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Life happened. Kids, new job that requires me to actually work.

Honestly, the Flyers perpetual mediocrity got me apathetic. I just can’t get excited about this team. I don’t even remember the last time I actually got pumped after a win.

- PhillySportsGuy

Oh, so you've been in the club for awhile now.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
How many 40+ point seasons has Ghost had? I know he had that one fluky 65 pointer.
- Glak18



If he played this nasty in front of his own net or in his own zone we wouldn’t of traded him….and we sure wouldn’t of had to offer a 2nd and a 7th to get rid of him….different players.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Life happened. Kids, new job that requires me to actually work.

Honestly, the Flyers perpetual mediocrity got me apathetic. I just can’t get excited about this team. I don’t even remember the last time I actually got pumped after a win.

- PhillySportsGuy


Congrats!

And yeah, I've been feeling the same way. Now I'm just here to observe the carnage.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
I was waiting to share this until the right time, this should make most of us feel a little better.

https://thehockeywriters....ku06G8tuJ7YL36UEZOWqITYaU

- wcorvette


Awww that make you feel better about today's trade?... an article about a team with 3 cups in the last 12 years?... In all seriousness though we totally know how you feel today Rutherford made some very, very bad signings and trades the past 4 years.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Trying to imagine Morey trading Maxey for MCW or some poop
- PhillySportsGuy

He's taking a lot of poop for not trading Ben for Harden doe
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET


All you need now is a $6M/year extension.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Fletcher went to the Bill O'Brien school of GMing. A 1st and a 2nd for a guy on the final year of his contract in a rebuilding year. That's alot for a 1 yr rental when the Flyers are not even favored to make the playoffs and could use talented cheap labor on rookie contracts.

There is no way Fletcher, if he is still the GM this time next year, can let Risto walk without it being a total disaster. That's assuming that Risto even significantly improves the Defense.

- Flyers_01

If it doesn’t work out this year he can move him at the deadline. I can’t imagine he plays poorly and gets and extension.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Oh, so you've been in the club for awhile now.
- Nucker101


Sixers are the only Philly team that gets me aroused these days
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
He's taking a lot of poop for not trading Ben for Harden doe
- Nucker101

Lillard or bust for the Sixers. They’re doing Joel dirty if they don’t ship Ben out.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Put Risto on the third pair for 5v5 and the top pp and I think you'll be ok.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
One concern I have is coming from a losing leaderless team then having Captain Comfortable and Jake welcome you to the country club isnt ideal.
- hello it's me 2050


yeah, i could see how this could be a concern. i mean, there's no way he is his own person with his own compete level or anything like that.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Fletcher is a fool for making this trade he deserves to be booed out of Philly.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
This. We didn’t even give up current prospects.

Whoever they picked 13th was probably at least 3 years from making an impact. You have a vet core. You need to give them the surrounding pieces for once.

- hereticpride


I object to Risto being considered a surrounding piece. For a 1st and 2nd they should've gotten a good player who isn't going to be a UFA next year.

Risto has Fletcher over a barrel when it comes to negotiating even if he is as bad for the Flyers as he was for the Sabres. You can't just throw away a 1st and 2nd and a young NHL player on a one year rental and call it C'est la vie.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
He's taking a lot of poop for not trading Ben for Harden doe
- Nucker101


I know. Crims texts everyday and asks if Morey will do anything besides appear on podcasts or buy NFTs
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