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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
Cannucks taking on OEL? lol

all of the bad GMs today making the worst moves. Fitz better be ready to pounce.

- Pomegrant

What’s the deal with OEL? Wasn’t he a stud? I’ve barely paid attention to Arizona since having kids. Well barely paid attention to the nhl since lol

Also I’m pretty sure other than the 12 pick that Arizona’s return is poop
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 23 @ 5:10 PM ET
If today is the day of bad GMs overpaying for assets/cap space and we can't get involved, staying out of it won't make us miss anything. Teams still need to move money after the draft for FA. It's all of the dumb GMs need to trade their first round picks right now and are getting fleeced for it.
- Pomegrant

Some of the worst trades in recent memory. Come on Fitz, jump in and fleece someone.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
What’s the deal with OEL? Wasn’t he a stud? I’ve barely paid attention to Arizona since having kids. Well barely paid attention to the nhl since lol

Also I’m pretty sure other than the 12 pick that Arizona’s return is poop

- shvingter88

OEL has aged....poorly.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
@PierreVLeBrun
So the full deal is:
OEL and Garland for Roussel, Eriksson, Beagle, the 9th overall pick, 2nd RD pick in 2022 and 7th pick in 2023. And Arizona retains 12 percent of OEL.

So in all of this Canucks get boat anchor OEL but ship out dead weight only to save $4.74 mil in cap space. Give them around 18 mil to re-sign Hughes, Pettersen and whomever else but probably need to flip Garland again since they can't fit him as well.

Think there is still room to poach Garland.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
So in all of this Canucks get boat anchor OEL but ship out dead weight only to save $4.74 mil in cap space. Give them around 18 mil to re-sign Hughes, Pettersen and whomever else but probably need to flip Garland again since they can't fit him as well.

Think there is still room to poach Garland.

- Pomegrant


I just dont understand it at all from VANs perspective. All 3 of the guys they shipped out as cap dumps expire in a year or two. Now they're stuck with OEL for 6 more years lol.

I really wanted Garland but if it was attached to taking OEL I wanted absolutely no part of it
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
I just dont understand it at all from VANs perspective. All 3 of the guys they shipped out as cap dumps expire in a year or two. Now they're stuck with OEL for 6 more years lol.

I really wanted Garland but if it was attached to taking OEL I wanted absolutely no part of it

- vlongo4419

It's the culmination of signing bottom six forwards to way too much money. He's taking three bad cap hits that are unmovable but short term (good for Arizona) and making them into one terrible contract forever, all for minor cap relief because he can't re-sign his two superstar players that will both make ~$8 mil each.

Thing is, we can still get Garland from them because they don't have enough cap space to sign him either lol.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:00 PM ET
It's the culmination of signing bottom six forwards to way too much money. He's taking three bad cap hits that are unmovable but short term (good for Arizona) and making them into one terrible contract forever, all for minor cap relief because he can't re-sign his two superstar players that will both make ~$8 mil each.

Thing is, we can still get Garland from them because they don't have enough cap space to sign him either lol.

- Pomegrant



Nah they aren't going to flip him, theres already talks they want to lock him up long term
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:10 PM ET
I was watching hi-lites from Vasily Podkolzin, the 'nucks prospect. This kid is unreal. Amazing wrist shot, hits, fights, dangles and dekes. Imagine if Panarin was a bulldozer.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:16 PM ET
What’s the deal with OEL? Wasn’t he a stud? I’ve barely paid attention to Arizona since having kids. Well barely paid attention to the nhl since lol

Also I’m pretty sure other than the 12 pick that Arizona’s return is poop

- shvingter88


You have kids?? I guess it makes sense.. we are getting older lol. I think I’ve been here for.. 11 years now? Unbelievable how the time flies.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:25 PM ET
Nothing new, but on the NHL Network a few minutes ago Friedman said the Devils are in on Tarasenko and Dougie Hamilton
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:29 PM ET
Nothing new, but on the NHL Network a few minutes ago Friedman said the Devils are in on Tarasenko and Dougie Hamilton
- vlongo4419


I feel like we're going to give up the Isles 1st and something else for Tarasenko, and im not a fan of that at all
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
You have kids?? I guess it makes sense.. we are getting older lol. I think I’ve been here for.. 11 years now? Unbelievable how the time flies.
- MartysBetter88

Yes shvingter19 was born in well 19 and shvingter 21 was born 4 months ago.

Pretty crazy how we all keep comping to this terrible site for so long lol. I like the comment sections here more than any other hockey sites though.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
I feel like we're going to give up the Isles 1st and something else for Tarasenko, and im not a fan of that at all
- vlongo4419

It sounds like no one wants him so hopefully it’s our second. I read something earlier in the week saying he didn’t like was he was being offered, and not being selected in the expansion draft has to lower the value more.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
It sounds like no one wants him so hopefully it’s our second. I read something earlier in the week saying he didn’t like was he was being offered, and not being selected in the expansion draft has to lower the value more.
- shvingter88


I hope so. I'm totally fine giving up a 2nd or 3rd and something else for him and taking the risk

It sounds like hes completely healthy and everything medically has checked out. I think he would be guaranteed 20-25+ goals minimum on Hughes wing if he plays in 70+ games, so i think hes worth the risk for us. Just not at the cost of a 1st +
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
Seth Jones to the Blackhawks. The big trades just keep coming
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:50 PM ET
Seth Jones to the Blackhawks. The big trades just keep coming
- vlongo4419

Prepare to trade for a 7th dman
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 23 @ 7:07 PM ET
Seth Jones to the Blackhawks. The big trades just keep coming
- vlongo4419


Did I see he signed an extension for 9.5?!?!

What's Hamilton going to sign for
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 7:08 PM ET
Did I see he signed an extension for 9.5?!?!

What's Hamilton going to sign for

- dmarsden2988


Yup, its apparently coming with an 8 year, 9.5M extension. The full package isnt known yet
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 23 @ 7:15 PM ET
Yup, its apparently coming with an 8 year, 9.5M extension. The full package isnt known yet
- vlongo4419



Absolutely insane. You get out of the Keith contract and take on that hit?
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 7:17 PM ET
Absolutely insane. You get out of the Keith contract and take on that hit?
- smellmyfinger


Yeah i dont understand it. They're making him the 3rd highest paid D in the league lol
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 23 @ 7:20 PM ET
Here we go Boys! Excited to see what Fitzy will do.

smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 23 @ 7:24 PM ET
Yeah i dont understand it. They're making him the 3rd highest paid D in the league lol
- vlongo4419



The price for Hamilton is going to be retarded.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 23 @ 7:32 PM ET
The price for Hamilton is going to be retarded.
- smellmyfinger


Its certainly possible, but at the same time i feel like theres a good chance GMs probably think Jones is a better player than Hamilton because they're old school hockey men. But again, we probably need to overpay no matter what, and from the very beginning i figured it'd take somewhere in the 9-10M range for us
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
Question: Would you take DeAngleo on a 1 year league minimum deal to play on the 3rd pair? Would make the Rags/Devs game pretty entertaining.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 23 @ 7:36 PM ET
Its certainly possible, but at the same time i feel like theres a good chance GMs probably think Jones is a better player than Hamilton because they're old school hockey men. But again, we probably need to overpay no matter what, and from the very beginning i figured it'd take somewhere in the 9-10M range for us
- vlongo4419


Smith Hamilton
Severson graves
Bahl subban

Who am I missing on D
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