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atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 6:33 AM ET
If that's the return, Adams might have been better off waiting until the trade deadline.
- Powerslave


This.

I don't see the return nor being more than what's speculated here.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 6:33 AM ET
This.

I don't see the return nor being more than what's speculated here.

- atlsabsfan



I really hope you're right
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 6:34 AM ET
I really hope you're right
- Stripes77


We shall see
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 6:34 AM ET
Jones was actually under contract for this coming season...

Sam is not as it currently stands, and as we saw earlier RHD are bringing a lot in a trade and RFA's were not

- Stripes77

Sam is an RFA it's no different than a one year contract and can be extended now.

No different than Jones. Both extendable.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 6:37 AM ET
Sam is an RFA it's no different than a one year contract and can be extended now.

No different than Jones. Both extendable.

- sabresfan69


Yes and no, reports were out that Jones would only sign an extension in Chicago and one other place, so Chicago had to pony up to get him (and sign him)

Maybe Sam doesn't want to sign in Florida?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 24 @ 6:47 AM ET
Where's Gerbe?!

This is all his fault! šŸ˜
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 24 @ 6:52 AM ET
Risto, an UFA at end of year got a 1st (13tg overall!) and 2nd. Sam a RFA should get more. Even if Sam walked to FA like Risto might he should get more.

Return better be more than a conditional 1st and an ok goalie prospectā€¦
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 7:06 AM ET
Yes and no, reports were out that Jones would only sign an extension in Chicago and one other place, so Chicago had to pony up to get him (and sign him)

Maybe Sam doesn't want to sign in Florida?

- Stripes77

You are arguing semantics just to try and be right.

Reinhart is extendable and can be worked out before a trade.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:10 AM ET
You are arguing semantics just to try and be right.

Reinhart is extendable and can be worked out before a trade.

- sabresfan69


You're saying it's the exact same thing as Jones...

It's not

Different positions, one player actually under contract, and one player who wanted to extend in Chicago...

We don't know what Sam and his agent want, where he wants to be, and at the end of the day still isn't under contract.

What exactly is there to be right about? If this is all we get for Sam I won't be happy.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 24 @ 7:11 AM ET
Give me Raty with that 2nd round pick. Unless the sabres know something and thats why Raty dropped so far and in that case take Pinelli

Raty was top 5 before the season started

- sabresfan69


Agreed100% some had Raty at #1 overall preseason then he had a bad season. Pinelli would be great too. Still wish we took Wally at 13 though analytics never have you taking a goalie that high
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 24 @ 7:14 AM ET
You are arguing semantics just to try and be right.

Reinhart is extendable and can be worked out before a trade.

- sabresfan69


I thought it was known Sam wanted to be out west. I am shocked Calgary, Vancouver, LAā€¦ could not beat a protectedā€™22 first and average goalie prospect.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:19 AM ET
I thought it was known Sam wanted to be out west. I am shocked Calgary, Vancouver, LAā€¦ could not beat a protectedā€™22 first and average goalie prospect.
- Gr8daygo



I agree, if anything it would be better to keep Sam and trade him at the deadline.

But let's see what the return is. Rumors have it that a player of significance is also coming...could it be Tippet or Lundell? I doubt it but maybe?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:21 AM ET
Something doesnā€™t add up.

Sabres need money coming back.

They wonā€™t reach the floor in this scenario
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 24 @ 7:21 AM ET
I agree, if anything it would be better to keep Sam and trade him at the deadline.

But let's see what the return is. Rumors have it that a player of significance is also coming...could it be Tippet or Lundell? I doubt it but maybe?

- Stripes77



Did someone mention Noel? Or was that just someone's opinion as to who it might be?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:23 AM ET
Did someone mention Noel? Or was that just someone's opinion as to who it might be?
- Powerslave



Someone mentioned it, I wouldn't hate it

I mean it could be worse, we could be Montreal right now
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 24 @ 7:23 AM ET
I agree, it just doesn't seem like the return is going to be great.

Sam must have really said I am not signing my RFA tender or something serious about not playing.

But, let's wait to see what the whole return is

- Stripes77


Yep - in his press conference at midnight last night KA basically said ā€œweā€™re not trading a player just to trade him. Weā€™ll make a trade if we get good value and we think itā€™ll help the Sabres going forward.ā€ Only get Levi and a conditional 1st doesnā€™t seem to fall into this categoryā€¦..hoping thereā€™s another piece? The hold-up may be fla trying to extend him??
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:23 AM ET
Oh poop I didnā€™t realize who Montreal drafted.

What are they thinking?

Heā€™s French Canadian though so montreal gona dumb.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:27 AM ET
I thought it was known Sam wanted to be out west. I am shocked Calgary, Vancouver, LAā€¦ could not beat a protectedā€™22 first and average goalie prospect.
- Gr8daygo

The best thing that can happen is they put in a clause that the NHL said you can no longer do, try again. Teams find out about said trade and call Buffalo saying we can beat that.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:31 AM ET
Oh poop I didnā€™t realize who Montreal drafted.

What are they thinking?

Heā€™s French Canadian though so montreal gona dumb.

- ImThatGuy


Bergevin should know better but then again he was in Chicago during the whole sexual assault by a coach is being investigated

Watch Montreal sign Tony DeAngelo too
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:32 AM ET
Yep - in his press conference at midnight last night KA basically said ā€œweā€™re not trading a player just to trade him. Weā€™ll make a trade if we get good value and we think itā€™ll help the Sabres going forward.ā€ Only get Levi and a conditional 1st doesnā€™t seem to fall into this categoryā€¦..hoping thereā€™s another piece? The hold-up may be fla trying to extend him??
- turbo044



I tried paying attention to his press conference but I was half awake. I had to be up at 4:30 this morning to open up the rink and I got like no sleep waiting on this return.

It better be good
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:33 AM ET
Garth out here thinking it is Spencer Knight
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 24 @ 7:44 AM ET
Garth out here thinking it is Spencer Knight
- Stripes77


itā€™s official then. no take backskies!
soljor09
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I wish you could unfollow people on here, NY
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jul 24 @ 7:46 AM ET
Garth out here thinking it is Spencer Knight
- Stripes77


Garth reminds me of myself as a kid. Out there in the driveway pretending to be his favorite player playing street hockey making crazy trades. Did you guys know Wayne Gretzky was a Sabre at one point? He was in my driveway!
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 24 @ 7:47 AM ET
Garth out here thinking it is Spencer Knight
- Stripes77


I mean that would be amazing. But weā€™d have a better shot at trading Jack and Olo for mcdavid.

Lundell would sway my current opinion of this steaming pileā€¦ but doubt that happens

I just donā€™t see how a place youā€™d almost be certain Sam would resign, out west, could beat a team in division with a better deal.

One list I looked at didnā€™t even have this goalie in the top 15 pipeline goalies.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 7:47 AM ET
Garth reminds me of myself as a kid. Out there in the driveway pretending to be his favorite player playing street hockey making crazy trades. Did you guys know Wayne Gretzky was a Sabre at one point? He was in my driveway!
- soljor09


He is out there, that's all I can say about him.

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