Per David Pagnotta: Canucks are shopping Schmidt and Holtby and willing to give up their 1st pick. Looking for a top 6 winger and top 4 defenseman, not necessarily in the same deal.

What about Zadorov + other assets for Holtby + 2021 1st? Depends on if the Canucks view Zadorov as a top 4, of course.
- Theo Fox

Zadorov to Vancouver makes sense on so many levels. The Canucks are looking for a young physical d-man and they want a Russian to help acclimate their top prospect, Podkolzin.

I'd do Z for Holtby and the 2021 #9. Holtby sucks but the Hawks could use him as a back-up. The buyout for Holtby isn't too bad, $500,000 this year and $1,900,000 next.

Would be interesting to know if ANYONE other than Zadorov views Zadorov as a top 4D.
- TheTrob

If Zadorov was legitimate top 4 material, he would still be in Colorado. The Lanche knew Saad was going to be a re-signing nightmare, so they weren't willing to give up much to have him for one playoff run. It was a better deal for Colorado than the Hawks - Saad was a factor for them in the playoffs.

Per David Pagnotta: Canucks are shopping Schmidt and Holtby and willing to give up their 1st pick. Looking for a top 6 winger and top 4 defenseman, not necessarily in the same deal.

What about Zadorov + other assets for Holtby + 2021 1st? Depends on if the Canucks view Zadorov as a top 4, of course.
- Theo Fox

Would they accept de Haan if not Z? Strome + de Haan for Holtby, Schmidty, & #9 pick? Buyout Schmidty.

Zadorov to Vancouver makes sense on so many levels. The Canucks are looking for a young physical d-man and they want a Russian to help acclimate their top prospect, Podkolzin.

I'd do Z for Holtby and the 2021 #9. Holtby sucks but the Hawks could use him as a back-up. The buyout for Holtby isn't too bad, $500,000 this year and $1,900,000 next.
- DarthKane

Why even buy him out? He's got a year left. Bury him if you have to and there's nothing on the books next. They have plenty of cap space to "waste" if necessary. Question is whether that $3m is worth it to move up 2 spots in the draft.

Edit: my bad....I thought you had included the #11 going to Van in the deal.

According to @frank_seravalli, the Chicago Blackhawks are working hard to try to trade for defenseman Seth Jones. Seth is willing to sign a long-term deal with the Blackhawks.
- mrpaulish

I hope Bowman's not desperate to fill Keith's shoes as a number one with Jones. I don't think Jones is a number one though.

If you throw in Delia, VAN saves $3.3 on their backup goalie. There should be a deal here that allows the Hawks to move up to #9.
- scottak

I don’t want them to just move up. Only take. #9 and #11 picks. Get both Sillinger and Lucius!

If Boqvist & Kalynuck are the top 2 of the current prospects then at some point you will have to make a decision between Beaudin & Mitchell.You can't keep both of them.

Dach, Dcat, & Reichel are untouchable IMO. I would only give them up for a bonafide #1 Dman.

As far as a trade for Jones...I would offer This years #1, Mitchell or Beaudin, Strome, Kurashev

I would also ask for the CBJ 25th pick along with Jones

Then I would trade Zadorov for Boeser

Did you back read the end of the last blog, Paulie was giving you the business....
- mohel

Thanks for the heads up. Would've missed it otherwise. So Paul.

Just say no to Jones. Give all your young D a full year to show what they’ve got, and develop. The last 2 years were both truncated. The goal this season is development, not winning.

Then add next year when they’d actually have a shot at the playoffs.
- scottak

I’m okay trading for Jones, however the cost has to make sense. I would not include Dcat, Dach, Reichel, or even Kubalik. The Hawks can include Z, Strome, picks, but not our first round pick, otherwise move on. We can’t have all kids on the back end, if so there’s a possibility of ruining Lankinen and the young D, so there’s a bigger picture here.

Would they accept de Haan if not Z? Strome + de Haan for Holtby, Schmidty, & #9 pick? Buyout Schmidty.
- Assman22

If you had the number 9 pick overall, is Strome, Dehaan enough by itself, let alone Holtby and Schmidt? I dont think it will be.

Book is out on Strome, DeHaan, and Z.....if Hawks can unload any and/or all 3 and not have to retain a $0.01 on 44 or 17 Ill be ecstatic.

If Z and his agent are asking for the moon, he may sit for awhile.

As far as Jones goes......I think he's better than Brian Campbell was when the Hawks coveted him 13 years ago. For me, it all depends on what the ask is.....if you can get him without giving up Dach or DeBrincat or even Reichel, it's worth a look.

If you had the number 9 pick overall, is Strome, Dehaan enough by itself, let alone Holtby and Schmidt? I dont think it will be.

Book is out on Strome, DeHaan, and Z.....if Hawks can unload any and/or all 3 and not have to retain a $0.01 on 44 or 17 Ill be ecstatic.

If Z and his agent are asking for the moon, he may sit for awhile.

As far as Jones goes......I think he's better than Brian Campbell was when the Hawks coveted him 13 years ago. For me, it all depends on what the ask is.....if you can get him without giving up Dach or DeBrincat or even Reichel, it's worth a look.
- SteveRain

The Hawks also need to find a home for Connolly

If Boqvist & Kalynuck are the top 2 of the current prospects then at some point you will have to make a decision between Beaudin & Mitchell.You can't keep both of them.

Dach, Dcat, & Reichel are untouchable IMO. I would only give them up for a bonafide #1 Dman.

As far as a trade for Jones...I would offer This years #1, Mitchell or Beaudin, Strome, Kurashev

I would also ask for the CBJ 25th pick along with Jones

Then I would trade Zadorov for Boeser
- NamedSources

Boqvist and (especially) Kalynuk are keepers. I'd have no problem including Beaudin and/or Mitchell in a deal for Jones (or another d-man).

I'd rather not include Kurashev in a deal, but it wouldn't be a hard no.

Z for Boeser... in a heartbeat, but I doubt Vancouver does that without Chicago adding something significant.

The Hawks also need to find a home for Connolly
- NamedSources

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If Boqvist & Kalynuck are the top 2 of the current prospects then at some point you will have to make a decision between Beaudin & Mitchell.You can't keep both of them.

Dach, Dcat, & Reichel are untouchable IMO. I would only give them up for a bonafide #1 Dman.

As far as a trade for Jones...I would offer This years #1, Mitchell or Beaudin, Strome, Kurashev

I would also ask for the CBJ 25th pick along with Jones

Then I would trade Zadorov for Boeser
- NamedSources

I dont know if Reichel is untouchable for me.....possibly. What about Suter? Hawks have a lot of depth forwards here, have to move some out....I like Kurashev and to me I would pick between Suter or Reichel.

I'd launch Strome for a case of tape. Same with Frankenstein....and maybe Columbus would take him back.


I am a closet Mitchell fan......as I posted last blog....these kids are at the age Keith/Hammer/Seabrook were at when they locked in roster spots....time for these younger ones to step up or Bowman to launch them before their market value bottoms out.

Big year for this organization in regards to prospect development....Dach, Suter, Kurashev, Beaudin, Boqvist, Mitchell, need to make some strides.

The Hawks also need to find a home for Connolly
- NamedSources

Agreed....waivers....buyout.....whatever. Saw somebody else posted about Carpenter...not against that one either.

Boqvist and (especially) Kalynuk are keepers. I'd have no problem including Beaudin and/or Mitchell in a deal for Jones (or another d-man).

I'd rather not include Kurashev in a deal, but it wouldn't be a hard no.

Z for Boeser... in a heartbeat, but I doubt Vancouver does that without Chicago adding something significant.
- DarthKane

No to Mitchell we keep him, then bye bye Murphy eventually

Boqvist and (especially) Kalynuk are keepers. I'd have no problem including Beaudin and/or Mitchell in a deal for Jones (or another d-man).

I'd rather not include Kurashev in a deal, but it wouldn't be a hard no.

Z for Boeser... in a heartbeat, but I doubt Vancouver does that without Chicago adding something significant.
- DarthKane

Strome, Rights to Zadorov, Suter, and Beaudin....if Columbus wants the 1st you get their late one back. If they insist on a pick but wont swap, I'd give them a 2nd.

For everyone saying NO to Jones....who are we going to miss out this? Suter is replaced by Reichel. Kurashev stays for depth.....

Boqvist and (especially) Kalynuk are keepers. I'd have no problem including Beaudin and/or Mitchell in a deal for Jones (or another d-man).

I'd rather not include Kurashev in a deal, but it wouldn't be a hard no.

Z for Boeser... in a heartbeat, but I doubt Vancouver does that without Chicago adding something significant.
- DarthKane

Rights to Olimb?

No to Mitchell we keep him, then bye bye Murphy eventually
- BetweenTheDots

I'd re-sign Murphy. He likes being in Chicago and he could be re-signed for a reasonable cap hit and term under the existing market conditions.

Boqvist and (especially) Kalynuk are keepers. I'd have no problem including Beaudin and/or Mitchell in a deal for Jones (or another d-man).

I'd rather not include Kurashev in a deal, but it wouldn't be a hard no.

Z for Boeser... in a heartbeat, but I doubt Vancouver does that without Chicago adding something significant.
- DarthKane

Maybe the darts will be coming my way, but I’d rather keep Kurashev over Suter, I love his shot and he seems to be more engaged defensively.

Rights to Olimb?
- HawkintheD

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Rights to Olimb?
- HawkintheD

along with Olesz skates I think that will get it done.

Its about asset management- this includes prospects. picks and cap space, all of which Jones would cost us at the wrong time in our development. Your assessment of the Hawk's players is proof of this (our limited talent pool). This is not bringing in Soupy to help stabilize our young back-line which was already making the jump (Keith's 2007-2008 season was a breakout season for him)- and we over paid for him in free agency and not with other assets. It is too early to be using other assets (whether they are elite talent or middle of the road) for a good player who will be in decline when this team is ready to make the next step.
- Revco38

Well put. Timing is a couple yrs early and that's if enough prospects develop. One more thing to add to the equation and that's will Toews be back and ever play like he did. If you have no Toews, or a weakened one, you have serious issues at center with no real help on the way, and that's assuming Dach develops.

At the very least if they acquire Jones I hope they don't give him a full NMC. Push comes to shove he'll bring back a nice package 2-3 TDL's from now. ...... But as a soon to be UFA Jones has all the leverage and I doubt he accepts anything but a full NMC and Stan is never averse to handing those out.

I'd re-sign Murphy. He likes being in Chicago and he could be re-signed for a reasonable cap hit and term under the existing market conditions.
- DarthKane

If we trade for Seth, keep Boqvist, there will be no room for Murphy if we keep Mitchell he'll play smarter than him really soon unless they move Murphy to LD

Maybe the darts will be coming my way, but I’d rather keep Kurashev over Suter, I love his shot and he seems to be more engaged defensively.
- Angotti

same for me