I’ve posted this story before, so bear with me if you’ve heard it. My daughter worked on a remote native community on the western shore of James Bay 1,200 miles north of Toronto. The natives there felt the name Redskins and the caricature of the Cleveland Indian was disrespectful of their culture. They had no problem with the Blackhawk logo as they felt it portrayed the Natives respectively. In fact all hockey and baseball teams in the community used the logo on their jerseys. So changing the name hurts no one and shows respect to the indigenous people, I don’t see that as a bad thing, do you?
- paulr

I don't see it as a bad thing either. I however think people waste to much time and energy on inconsequential things like this. Its not an actual issue or problem. Its a self made problem. It resolves, fixes, changes nothing. Its a literal nothing. Yet people freak the (frank) out over stuff like this in todays climate. You want to talk about real problems (homelessness, mental health etc....) and put energy and effort into them I'm with you but stuff like this is nothing but social just hot air that helps nobody.

Anyway, about Seth Jones....he's been regressing for 2 seasons now and I'm not a huge fan especially with some of the packages Ive seen thrown about.

Whoa Rota, that's huge. I don't know who Mark Scheig is but good deal that pick that nabs Sillinger is the Hawks pick.
- Popsghostly

Makes sense for Hawks to gamble on loss of this year's pick, given relative quality of this draft as compared to recent years. IMO, better than losing a newer prospect who has shown promise.

Bird in the hand, and all that...

I don't see it as a bad thing either. I however think people waste to much time and energy on inconsequential things like this. Its not an actual issue or problem. Its a self made problem. It resolves, fixes, changes nothing. Its a literal nothing. Yet people freak the (frank) out over stuff like this in todays climate. You want to talk about real problems (homelessness, mental health etc....) and put energy and effort into them I'm with you but stuff like this is nothing but social just hot air that helps nobody.

Anyway, about Seth Jones....he's been regressing for 2 seasons now and I'm not a huge fan especially with some of the packages Ive seen thrown about.
- Blackwater13

It's just one of many agendas pushed by bitter, miserable people who's lives are so devoid of any happiness their sole mission has become to try to make everyone else bitter and unhappy.

A little bird, who may or may not have been a fan of the Spiders, has pointed out that the Cleveland Spiders were a National League franchise way back in the day. I'd still have gone with that; sounds catchier than Guardians, imo.

A little bird, who may or may not have been a fan of the Spiders, has pointed out that the Cleveland Spiders were a National League franchise way back in the day. I'd still have gone with that; sounds catchier than Guardians, imo.
- mohel

Personally I like the Flying Arrows.

Personally I like the Flying Arrows.
- jrsamu

Fukawi


Kids will have to google Johnny Carson.

I thought you meant the beverage. Just as appropriate.
- Chunk

Works too.

I just hope the Hawks don't bid against themselves. If Dallas wants Jones, then they are picking Jones over Klingburg (as he becomes a UFA next year), and Columbus still has to pay Makar, and make room for Mc Kinnon's next contract)
- LAHawk

Hey Hawk, curious who you'd like to see the Hawks draft at #11. Also wonder if you feel in this particular window if the time is right to use assets to add a Jones type? ....... And finally seems to me the Kings are really really interesting right now. To me the most interesting franchise out there. So many good to elite prospects, vets like Kopitar still on their game and some cap space. Think they are in their window to do something big?

It's just one of many agendas pushed by bitter, miserable people who's lives are so devoid of any happiness their sole mission has become to try to make everyone else bitter and unhappy.
- MartiniMan

It's really not an agenda, it's being respectful to other cultures. It's very easy to dismiss it when you've never been subject to racism. Bottom line, the change means something to people affected by it.

A little bird, who may or may not have been a fan of the Spiders, has pointed out that the Cleveland Spiders were a National League franchise way back in the day. I'd still have gone with that; sounds catchier than Guardians, imo.
- mohel

I would've enjoyed the Cleveland Erie Polluters

Agreed and if people on this site were so good, their opinions wouldn't be read by folks on a blog. They'd be employed by an actual team.

Goalie, defensemen, center, wing....dont' care.....just as long as said player becomes a vital part of the team in the next upcoming years. Can't whiff on 1st round picks. Especially in a cap world....and especially when you spend up to the cap ceiling.
- SteveRain

Yep, especially in the top 1/3 of the 1st rd. Which is why I always debate in my head over which players to take, where and why. Take a kid with a higher ceiling (take a swing) or the higher floor (play safe) and identify the spots to do so. .... You gotta get a couple stars somehow but taking swings means more misses.

It's said in this draft after picks 11-13 there is a drop off. Lysell is a swing with a chance to be a game breaker. Sillinger a higher floor and Svechkov an even higher floor, lower ceiling and a for sure centerman. ........ Curious what Wiz thinks, or anyone who's seen Sillinger play full games, if they think he will be a centerman or wing in the NHL. I'm assuming his skating might have to improve to play C but not necessarily.

Hey Hawk, curious who you'd like to see the Hawks draft at #11. Also wonder if you feel in this particular window if the time is right to use assets to add a Jones type? ....... And finally seems to me the Kings are really really interesting right now. To me the most interesting franchise out there. So many good to elite prospects, vets like Kopitar still on their game and some cap space. Think they are in their window to do something big?
- Mr Ricochet

Its not the right time to trade for jones who has been declining in Columbus a defensive orientated system of play. So how would here with some hybrid system JC IS Running. As for the 11th pick Sillnger or Lucias for me.

Great watch. Tallon, Murray and Yawny are part of the roadtrip with Burke.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...landing-sedins-draft-day/


Makes me excited about tonight.

Hey Hawk, curious who you'd like to see the Hawks draft at #11. Also wonder if you feel in this particular window if the time is right to use assets to add a Jones type? ....... And finally seems to me the Kings are really really interesting right now. To me the most interesting franchise out there. So many good to elite prospects, vets like Kopitar still on their game and some cap space. Think they are in their window to do something big?
- Mr Ricochet

I would go with Chaz Lucas. I think his skating issues are overblown, I think his knee injury contributed to it. I love natural goal scorers. I wouldn't mind Jones, if it costs Bovquist, Kurashev, Strome (especially if you draft Lucas), and a 3rd or 4th round pic.

Kings need another top 6 player to slot their forwards correctly, they definitely have the cap space. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with Eichel. Also, they are like the Hawks, very inexperienced on D, They are in the west, which I believe is very weak this year, so I expect them to be a playoff team this year.

From Scott Powers of the Athletic:

"I did ask an SHL goalie coach about Söderblom and Wallstedt and was told, “I think that the Blackhawks got a goalie in Söderblom with the same talent level and even better work ethic.” Of course, Wallstedt is 18, so that has to be considered."

One reason why it may be okay for the Hawks to go with a forward or defenseman with their 1st pick than Wallstedt.

If that's all true, then run with Commesso and Soderblom as next in line behind Lankinen and draft a goalie in the later rounds this weekend, i.e. Brochu, Gaudreau, Lennox, or Sergeyev.

I'm liking Sergeyev the most the more I learn about him. It helps that he's been playing in North America, not Russia.

Its not the right time to trade for jones who has been declining in Columbus a defensive orientated system of play. So how would here with some hybrid system JC IS Running. As for the 11th pick Sillnger or Lucias for me.
- Scott1977

Never a month when I come to this site I don't see you having some sort of trade proposals, Scott. Fun to see your passion for the Hawks. Big day for fans like you, enjoy...

Simply said I am always, always wrong on who the Hawks are gonna take. Not who I want but trying to get in their head to figure out who they'll draft.

Remember 5-6-7 yrs ago the organIzational talking point was collect players with a high IQ? Now it's kinda guys who will compete. ........ Generally they rate speed/skill over everything like Boqvist over Dobson/Bouchard but then they go Dach over Zegras. Then they gather 6-7 smallish speedy puck moving Dmen and throw in a monster like Vlasic. But all things being equal they'll go speed/skill.

I get the Jones love. Even if he isn't a true #1 guys like him are tough to get and have value. My concern(s) are you have to give up quite a few assets for him, lotsa cap space and is this the time to do something like that? ....... If he were a straight up UFA the only risk is he hurts the cap in a few yrs if his play drops off even if the timing of the "rebuild" is off. Lotta risk here, cuz you're giving up assets, which the Hawks have few high end ones, and is it the right time to take that risk?

It's interesting how the potential trade for Eichel is becoming less than desirable for the Sabres. He came into the league with so much promise.

Too much money?
Injury?
Rumors of being difficult in the locker room?

If the value for him drops should the Hawks kick the tires? They do like reclamation projects and if the price is right......plus with the uncertainty with Toews. Maybe Buffalo retains some salary.

It's interesting how the potential trade for Eichel is becoming less than desirable for the Sabres. He came into the league with so much promise.

Too much money?
Injury?
Rumors of being difficult in the locker room?

If the value for him drops should the Hawks kick the tires? They do like reclamation projects and if the price is right......plus with the uncertainty with Toews. Maybe Buffalo retains some salary.
- NamedSources

I offer the same thing i offer Columbus a 7th round pick and that's it, Eichel is broken and Jones is going to get paid. CBJ will wait to trade deadline probably get a 1st or 2nd round pick

Its not the right time to trade for jones who has been declining in Columbus a defensive orientated system of play. So how would here with some hybrid system JC IS Running. As for the 11th pick Sillnger or Lucias for me.
- Scott1977

There should be no discussion of trading for Jones. The Blackhawks won’t win a cup with him on the team. Declining numbers is just part of it, the other part being trading away your future on a has been.

From Scott Powers of the Athletic:

"I did ask an SHL goalie coach about Söderblom and Wallstedt and was told, “I think that the Blackhawks got a goalie in Söderblom with the same talent level and even better work ethic.” Of course, Wallstedt is 18, so that has to be considered."

One reason why it may be okay for the Hawks to go with a forward or defenseman with their 1st pick than Wallstedt.

If that's all true, then run with Commesso and Soderblom as next in line behind Lankinen and draft a goalie in the later rounds this weekend, i.e. Brochu, Gaudreau, Lennox, or Sergeyev.

I'm liking Sergeyev the most the more I learn about him. It helps that he's been playing in North America, not Russia.
- Theo Fox

This has been feeling all along- I think with Lankinen and Commesso (and I had forgotten about Soderblom) we have pretty decent talent. Need to improve the talent up front.

Really hope we do NOT trade for Jones (if we were 2 years further along in the rebuild I would say yes, but not at this point) and I REALLY hope McTavish falls to 12 (11), but do not see that happening. But would be happy with Sillinger, Lysell or Luscious (not necessarily in that order).

I would also like to have the Hawks explore taking PK Subban off NJ's hands + the 29th pick (for a 4th round pick), or see if we can pry the 4th overall (+ Subban) for Strome and a 3rd

Never a month when I come to this site I don't see you having some sort of trade proposals, Scott. Fun to see your passion for the Hawks. Big day for fans like you, enjoy...

Simply said I am always, always wrong on who the Hawks are gonna take. Not who I want but trying to get in their head to figure out who they'll draft.

Remember 5-6-7 yrs ago the organIzational talking point was collect players with a high IQ? Now it's kinda guys who will compete. ........ Generally they rate speed/skill over everything like Boqvist over Dobson/Bouchard but then they go Dach over Zegras. Then they gather 6-7 smallish speedy puck moving Dmen and throw in a monster like Vlasic. But all things being equal they'll go speed/skill.

I get the Jones love. Even if he isn't a true #1 guys like him are tough to get and have value. My concern(s) are you have to give up quite a few assets for him, lotsa cap space and is this the time to do something like that? ....... If he were a straight up UFA the only risk is he hurts the cap in a few yrs if his play drops off even if the timing of the "rebuild" is off. Lotta risk here, cuz you're giving up assets, which the Hawks have few high end ones, and is it the right time to take that risk?
- Mr Ricochet

I keep hearing people say that giving up assets for Jones is foolish. Outside of Dach, ADB and possibly Reichel (from what I’ve seen so far), I would have no issue giving up any other players or picks to land Jones. Is he peak Keith or Doughty? No, but he is a very good D-man that can play in all situations. What are we afraid of losing here?

I keep hearing people say that giving up assets for Jones is foolish. Outside of Dach, ADB and possibly Reichel (from what I’ve seen so far), I would have no issue giving up any other players or picks to land Jones. Is he peak Keith or Doughty? No, but he is a very good D-man that can play in all situations. What are we afraid of losing here?
- Chunk

Chunk. Agree with how we are at the moment.

What I fear is the 8x 8 deal we'll have to give him. Even if he plays well for 2-3 years, when he starts to decline we still might not have a team good enough to compete for the Cup and will be stuck with a heavy deal that prevents us from signing good UFAs, making trades or resigning our RFAs.

Never a month when I come to this site I don't see you having some sort of trade proposals, Scott. Fun to see your passion for the Hawks. Big day for fans like you, enjoy...

Simply said I am always, always wrong on who the Hawks are gonna take. Not who I want but trying to get in their head to figure out who they'll draft.

Remember 5-6-7 yrs ago the.
organIzational talking point was collect players with a high IQ? Now it's kinda guys who will compete. ........ Generally they rate speed/skill over everything like Boqvist over Dobson/Bouchard but then they go Dach over Zegras. Then they gather 6-7 smallish speedy puck moving Dmen and throw in a monster like Vlasic. But all things being equal they'll go speed/skill.

I get the Jones love. Even if he isn't a true #1 guys like him are tough to get and have value. My concern(s) are you have to give up quite a few assets for him, lotsa cap space and is this the time to do something like that? ....... If he were a straight up UFA the only risk is he hurts the cap in a few yrs if his play drops off even if the timing of the "rebuild" is off. Lotta risk here, cuz you're giving up assets, which the Hawks have few high end ones, and is it the right time to take that risk?
- Mr Ricochet

thanks i know my trade proposal can out of left field and don't make sense but its fun to try see what trades to come down not only the hawks but rest of the league. As for who hawks pick i want Mctavish but most like gone before 11 i could see hawks reach like last year. But the safe picks imo. Are Sillnger lucias and cossa.

I keep hearing people say that giving up assets for Jones is foolish. Outside of Dach, ADB and possibly Reichel (from what I’ve seen so far), I would have no issue giving up any other players or picks to land Jones. Is he peak Keith or Doughty? No, but he is a very good D-man that can play in all situations. What are we afraid of losing here?
- Chunk

Its not a fear of losing anything, it is a question of where we are in our rebuild, and if those assets could be better utilized in other ways (for trading up, for example, or acquiring a younger player who will be hitting all cylinders when we will be competitive again. He does not move the needle on this team at this time. If we were further along in the rebuild I would not be opposed, but it is too soon, and by the time the team "catches up", he will be in serious decline.

Must not have wanted to pay royalties to Drew Carey

They could have been Cleveland Rocks