Praise be to Jesus.

One down, one to go.

What !!
He would be the steal of the draft AT 32 .here goes Wallstat to Detroit
- oldduffman

Cossa and if you read what I posted, I said it would be a good pick at 32. Pay attention, sparky.

What !!
He would be the steal of the draft AT 32 .here goes Wallstat to Detroit
- oldduffman

Well new Stevie would take a goalie Cossa is a great kid great pick by the Wings .

It has to be put into context. Like how many did other teams draft and develop. Or at least compare hos f1st round success against other GMs.


That being said. I am fully onboard the fire Stan train.
- Elbows15

Just asked the guys at The Athletic to do that comparison. Think it would be fascinating and help put Stan's overall performance in perspective.

Not lately, for sure

But, I'm wondering about the diamond-in-the-rough types like Keith and Shaw taken in later rounds. How long has it been since we've hit on one of those?
- pdx2ord

Dinky. Kurashev will be one. Hagel was found on the street. Panarin, Kubalik, Suter are all guys that cold qualify for diamonds in the rough to me.

Well new Stevie would take a goalie Cossa is a great kid great pick by the Wings .
- oldduffman

Traded up to take a goalie in the first round. Double Fail.

Cossa and if you read what I posted, I said it would be a good pick at 32. Pay attention, sparky.
- Elbows15

okay Elblows your unreal bias of goalie in the 1st rd is plain foolishness

Traded up to take a goalie in the first round. Double Fail.
- Ogilthorpe2

Ya Stevie knows nothing about building winners .

Just asked the guys at The Athletic to do that comparison. Think it would be fascinating and help put Stan's overall performance in perspective.
- pdx2ord

Only one of Stan's 1st round picks has not played in the NHL. McNeill. Beach was a Tallon choice to me since the change happened right around the draft. McNeill is offset by Danault also being a 1st rounder.

Dinky. Kurashev will be one. Hagel was found on the street. Panarin, Kubalik, Suter are all guys that cold qualify for diamonds in the rough to me.
- Elbows15

All great examples, thanks

okay Elblows your unreal bias of goalie in the 1st rd is plain foolishness
- oldduffman

ah ok lol

Blowman trades 2 first round picks, a second, and Bovquist for Seth Jones.. for a guy who clearly doesn’t want to sign an extension with Columbus, would be a free agent next year, and then extend him for that contract basically doubling his salary guaranteed no one was offering anything close to that.. bowman ruined in three trades with the jackets..

WTF?!?!?

Only one of Stan's 1st round picks has not played in the NHL. McNeill. Beach was a Tallon choice to me since the change happened right around the draft. McNeill is offset by Danault also being a 1st rounder.
- Elbows15

Guess I was thinking more of finding (draft or off the street like some of the undrafted Euros), developing in-house, and then actually getting at least intermediate-term benefits for our own team.

If someone like Raty or Svechkov falls til around 25, Stan should package 32 to move up.

Not lately, for sure

But, I'm wondering about the diamond-in-the-rough types like Keith and Shaw taken in later rounds. How long has it been since we've hit on one of those?
- pdx2ord

Seeing as our rebuild has been extended, we have time to tell. Hopefully soon.

Guess I was thinking more of finding (draft or off the street like some of the undrafted Euros), developing in-house, and then actually getting at least intermediate-term benefits for our own team.
- pdx2ord

I mean Vinnie was a 6th round choice and he has found a way to play in the NHL for close to 250 games.

It has to be put into context. Like how many did other teams draft and develop. Or at least compare hos f1st round success against other GMs.


That being said. I am fully onboard the fire Stan train.
- Elbows15

True. I'm not far behind. Depending on ufa day & other trades & signings.

Guess I was thinking more of finding (draft or off the street like some of the undrafted Euros), developing in-house, and then actually getting at least intermediate-term benefits for our own team.
- pdx2ord

I know but GMs make or break on their 1st round choices and SB has done well there. Anything after the 2nd round is a pure crapshoot.

Ya Stevie knows nothing about building winners .
- oldduffman

Blind squirrel

True. I'm not far behind. Depending on ufa day & other trades & signings.
- I Am The Breadman

I really felt he was back on his game the last two seasons. This trade was awful for so many reasons. If Danny is pushing it then he needs to step out and take the heat

I mean Vinnie was a 6th round choice and he has found a way to play in the NHL for close to 250 games.
- Elbows15

Agreed, although he was another boomerang after being shipped off after never really sticking with the big club.

How many guys have we had since Saad and Shaw who were developed in-house, stayed with and unquestionably helped the team for several years? And, how does that compare to the rest of the NHL, especially those teams that were successful during the same era as us?

Agreed, although he was another boomerang after being shipped off after never really sticking with the big club.

How many guys have we had since Saad and Shaw who were developed in-house, stayed with and unquestionably helped the team for several years? And, how does that compare to the rest of the NHL, especially those teams that were successful during the same era as us?
- pdx2ord

Even then. How many teams were drafting in the latter half of rounds? Its not really an apples to apples comparison.

Does Nashville like Swedish goalies?

Even then. How many teams were drafting in the latter half of rounds? Its not really an apples to apples comparison.
- Elbows15

Very true - that's why a compare with the teams who were successful in same era as us would be more interesting (I'm assuming they were also picking in lower tier).

Even then. How many teams were drafting in the latter half of rounds? Its not really an apples to apples comparison.
- Elbows15

Also, when your in maintaining mode vs building mode, you’re more likely to move young assets to keep the window open, and/or suffer cap casualties as entry level deals expire.