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Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yeah, Stanbo's going all in to save his job. Another non-playoff year, coupled with the scandal, will be it for him. Hopefully.
- BMWChiFan


Another thing that bothered me when the ran Shovel Face off and restructured the front office. They extended StanBow as GM AND made him the boss to oversee his own self on the hockey ops side.

No hockey man in the organIzation to stop him from doing anything to save his own job.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
Don't say never !! Gaudreau
- oldduffman

They do that and I’m done with this team.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
I watch it anyway. I am a fan of hockey, not just one team.
- Elbows15

Agree its always been intriguing to me enjoy watching it every year.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
I watch it anyway. I am a fan of hockey, not just one team.
- Elbows15

It’ll just piss me off watching all of the could have beens get picked. Strategically planned my schedule to make sure I wasn’t working tonight…looked forward to it all day, then…over before it started.
pdx2ord
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
They do that and I’m done with this team.
- Ogilthorpe2


But not us, right???

Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Jul 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
But not us, right???


- pdx2ord

Break up by association.

Sorry, it’s the rules.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Can we stop making trades with Columbus...Jarmo owns Stan...
- BGKarras

Jarmo is like Stevie Y in that they are patient. That's how they get the better end of deals............ Jarmo has no leverage, none. He has a kid who wants out and will accept to 2-3 teams and StanBow gives up that second 1st.

Have to think if he was patient like he was with Holland he still has next yrs #1.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Just because a team had two good D-men, doesn't mean he isn't a #1. The extension is a bit of an overpay, but Jones is better than anyone we had and very likely already better than anyone we had in the system was going to be. I'm not going to complain about a guy who was playing a full season in the NHL at 19 on Defense and didn't look out of place.
- breadbag

look at the trend.

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
Z is still here for the moment and players do come from the draft. How many team successfully build through trades and FA signing a cap league, Rick?
- Elbows15

If you wanted the Hawks totally committed to a rebuild, it was long ago time to move on from Kane and Toews and crater for top picks in the draft. How well do you think that would have gone over? You only get one pick per year which means a very lengthy process with no guarantees unless a Fleury, Crosby and Malkin turn up in consecutive years.

Successful build thru trades and FA - try the Avs - Grubauer, Toews, Saad, Nichuskin, Burakovsky and probably a few others. The Canadiens made some opportunistic trades and signings too.

The Hawks aren't rebuilding no matter what fans here believe. Rebuilding is what Detroit is doing and its taking a f'n long time.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
Stevie Y just blew that pick.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
I had hoped the hawks weren’t able to acquire Jones and would continue rebuilding deliberately. While I don’t think Jones is a number one defender and will more of the cap than the value he brings, let’s hope I’m wrong and he’s as good as some believe he is. Let’s also hope Bowman finds a way to get a first round pick next year. Let’s also hope Bowman had the foresight to protect the pick if the hawks are in a lottery position because should the hawks position get the first overall ……
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 23 @ 8:57 PM ET
Stevie Y just blew that pick.
- Elbows15

On live TV? 🤦🏼
pdx2ord
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Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
Break up by association.

Sorry, it’s the rules.

- Ogilthorpe2


#ASF
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
If you wanted the Hawks totally committed to a rebuild, it was long ago time to move on from Kane and Toews and crater for top picks in the draft. How well do you think that would have gone over? You only get one pick per year which means a very lengthy process with no guarantees unless a Fleury, Crosby and Malkin turn up in consecutive years.

Successful build thru trades and FA - try the Avs - Grubauer, Toews, Saad, Nichuskin, Burakovsky and probably a few others. The Canadiens made some opportunistic trades and signings too.

The Hawks aren't rebuilding no matter what fans here believe. Rebuilding is what Detroit is doing and its taking a f'n long time.

- RickJ

ANd none of those trades matter without Mac, Rantanen, Landy and Makar plus others, Rick.

You make trades to supplement.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
if you look at from draft pick stand point....

1st next year, 2nd this year (1 of 2 they had this year)

they got a 6th next year

flip flopped 1sts this year.....

I don't hate it......i get others do, but I was never high on boqvist. They kept Dach, DeBrincat, Suter, Reichel, Kurashev and only gave up 1 asset in Boqvist.

To think they weren't going after a top tiered d man I guess IMO was naive based on everything we read the last month, and read from Bowman's mouth yesterday.....I would rather have Jones than Hamilton.

- SteveRain


This

This is a good way to analyze the trade.

It will be interesting whom was available at #11 this year

But

Time wil tell on development as far as Dach and some kids on defense now and in the pipeline. Could become a very strong defense. Strong offensively and defensively

Right now next year the defensemen are: S Jones, Murphy, Kalynuk. Then who knows how the other dmen could fit. Mitchell development, Zadorov stays, deHahn healthy, Beaudin good enough.

Mitchell comes along nicely would be a boost. I am actually more hopeful to see Phillips develop over Regula. I need to see Regula skate better. Too far away presently but one year later both Vlasic and Kaiser could turn professional
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
On live TV? 🤦🏼
- paulr

He may as well. Guy has been described as hockey dumb in less direct terms.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jul 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
On live TV? 🤦🏼
- paulr



That was worth the beer I just spit up after I read this…
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
I don’t like the Jones trade…

…and I’m REALLY not enjoying ESPN’s hockey coverage these last few days.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 23 @ 9:02 PM ET
On live TV? 🤦🏼
- paulr


Breaking news, Detroit is under investigation.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 23 @ 9:03 PM ET
I don’t like the Jones trade…

…and I’m REALLY not enjoying ESPN’s hockey coverage these last few days.

- Chief4Feathers


ESPN doing a cringe worthy job of covering hockey? Who saw that coming…
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 23 @ 9:04 PM ET
Breaking news, Detroit is under investigation.
- I Am The Breadman

The NHLs first Toobin
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jul 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
On live TV? 🤦🏼
- paulr

Good one .
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 23 @ 9:07 PM ET
Breaking news, Detroit is under investigation.
- I Am The Breadman

For what?
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jul 23 @ 9:08 PM ET
They do that and I’m done with this team.
- Ogilthorpe2

Oh well may happen definitely with there 2nd pick
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jul 23 @ 9:08 PM ET
ESPN doing a cringe worthy job of covering hockey? Who saw that coming…
- SimpleJack


I wish this was on the Ocho…


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