He really pulled a rabbit out of his hat with this one, basically a better version of the J.T. Miller trade.
- Nucker101

If Garland is Milleresque at worst it’s not a lost trade. If OEL comes in refreshed & hungry it’s a win. If both perform it’s a home run.

Both are meh well who’s the next GM?

Dlcky 3C for a 2021 3rd. Good add
OEL/Garland 2 needs could be sweet.
Schmidt fetches? Cap space got
Holtby moved cap got & cheap backup.

3L gonna be vastly improved.
Depth top 9 got major better.
RHD hole still to fill. Who?
Cost is ELC’s traded.
Farm has to develop.

Benning wasn’t bullpoopting when he said he was going to be aggressive. I want to hate this deal, but I don’t think that I do. Getting rid of three poopty contracts in one transaction is crazy. Garland is a sneaky good pick up and he should just be sliding into his prime.

OEL, that could be a problem, especially 3, 4 years down the road. But from where I’m sitting (in the Okanagan, surrounded by an unprecedented number of wildfires, after a week and a half where we absolutely shattered temperature records, hopefully emerging from a year and a half pandemic that shut the world down, etc) I’m not exactly worried about the Canucks in 4 years.

Benning might have saved his job and made his successor’s job significantly harder in one deal. I kinda like it.
- CubanBuffet

Well said. Also OEL has an easy contract to buyout in a few years if it isn’t working

Dlcky 3C for a 2021 3rd. Good add
OEL/Garland 2 needs could be sweet.
Schmidt fetches? Cap space got
Holtby moved cap got & cheap backup.

3L gonna be vastly improved.
Depth top 9 got major better.
RJD hole still to fill. Who?
Cost is ELC’s traded.
Farm has to develop.
- Nighthawk

The farm has nothing to develop, the team picks Europeans and Americans, with an occasional Canadian thrown in, so the players either go to college, or play in the European leagues.
Having a farm team for the Canucks is almost pointless.

The farm has nothing to develop, the team picks Europeans and Americans, with an occasional Canadian thrown in, so the players either go to college, or play in the European leagues.
Having a farm team for the Canucks is al.ost pointless.
- Reubenkincade

Gads Woo Lockwood Focht Plasek.
Next year McDonough Jurmo Persson Zlodyev etc.
Not awe inspiring but getting any to push for bottom 6 or D is a plus.

Well said. Also OEL has an easy contract to buyout in a few years if it isn’t working
- CanuckDon

He will be fine for the duration of the contract, but yes, the buyout option late in the contract is peanuts.

Gads Woo Lockwood Focht Plasek.
Next year McDonough Jurmo Persson Zlodyev etc.
Not awe inspiring but getting any to push for bottom 6 or D is a plus.
- Nighthawk

Impressive.

Impressive.
- Reubenkincade

Hardly but not horrible lol

Maybe Jimbo can make a deal with Bergy now for Mailloux

I mean, many scouts had hoglander and madden going way before they did in their drafts as well. I believe cam had madden as a late 1st, and hoglander in the late teens in his drafts (not 100% sure on locations but remember them being higher)
- Codes1087

Cam had Hoglander at 26oa. Only 4 spots behind where I had Hogz.

Cam isn't all that bad, his bias just gets in the way.

He gets pretty much all the small guys right because he takes 10 swings and one or two work out.

He had Kirby Dach at 10 in 19' and Brady Tkachuk at 9 in 18'

In 18' he had Jake Wise at 19oa and Tyler Madden at 116. Remember the uproar about Van passing by Wise when Madden was still there.

Patrick Bacon
@TopDownHockey
#Blackhawks select Nolan Allan 32nd overall. I ranked him 338th overall, and 113th among defensemen.

Allan scored 2 points in 16 WHL games in his draft year. I don't know what else to say.

https://twitter.com/TopDo...18767362405277701/photo/1

Columbus picks him up at 25.

BPA on day 2

Forwards
Sasha Pastujov
Matthew Knies
Logan Stankoven
Ayrton Martino
Samu Salminen
Connor Kurth
Cole Huckins
Francesco Pinelli
Samuel Helenuis
Joshua Roy
Tristan Broz
William Stromgren
Ville Kouvinen
Nikita Chibrikov
Brett Harrison

Defence
Owen Zellweger
Jacob Guevin
Daniil Chayka
Simon Motew
Vincent Lorio
Evan Nause
Kirill Kirsanov
Brent Johnson
Stanislav Szovil

12 players for 2nd round pick

Patrick Bacon
@TopDownHockey
#Blackhawks select Nolan Allan 32nd overall. I ranked him 338th overall, and 113th among defensemen.

Allan scored 2 points in 16 WHL games in his draft year. I don't know what else to say.
- manvanfan

Head scratcher for sure. I had Stillman, Boucher, Othmann all WAY lower as well. The real bombshell was obviously Mailloux, why not just take him with your last pick - in a Bure like way...

BPA on day 2

Defence
Owen Zellweger - hell no
Jacob Guevin - nope
Daniil Chayka -YES
Simon Motew -not a chance
Vincent Lorio- 3rd round
Evan Nause - HELL YES
Kirill Kirsanov - absolutely
Brent Johnson - maybe
Stanislav Szovil - absolutely

Also, Richard, Whynot, Olsson - hoping for D

12 players for 2nd round pick
- manvanfan

Head scratcher for sure. I had Stillman, Boucher, Othmann all WAY lower as well. The real bombshell was obviously Mailloux, why not just take him with your last pick - in a Bure like way...
- Brooks_Light

The 2nd round will probably be even more of a head scratcher.

The Sedin effect:

Ekman-Larsson connections

There’s a ton of risk the club has taken on in acquiring Ekman-Larsson, who is signed for six more years and despite an $8.25 million cap hit was a replacement-level contributor for the Coyotes last season.

The Canucks aren’t going into this gamble, however, with their eyes closed. The club has a good understanding of the player and the person, and there are a variety of key organizational decision makers with keen insight into what went wrong for the veteran defender in Arizona.

Canucks head coach Travis Green is close friends with Rick Tocchet, and you can bet he’s picked Tocchet’s brain on Ekman-Larsson’s game and what he has left in the tank.

Perhaps more importantly, Henrik and Daniel Sedin remain close friends with Ekman-Larsson. The twins might be new to Canucks hockey operations, but they did more than just vouch for their former Tre Kronor teammate’s character in the leadup to this deal. Sources indicate that the twins were able to provide insight as the trade came together on how Ekman-Larsson viewed his more recent struggles with the Coyotes.

Vancouver and the Arizona Coyotes discussed an Ekman-Larsson swap last offseason, with trade talks going down to the wire.

In the hours before the market opened and the deadline set by Ekman-Larsson’s Vancouver based agent Kevin Epp expired on Oct. 9, 2020, the Canucks made one last offer. The deal ultimately fell apart because Vancouver refused to part with one of Thatcher Demko or Vasili Podkolzin.

This offseason, Ekman-Larsson wielded his no-trade clause a bit more amenably. After another miserable season with the Coyotes, this time, Ekman-Larsson wanted out.

It’s easy to draw a through-line from trade talks in October to today, but in fact, the sense I get is that this deal came together more recently. It’s an enormously complicated trade and took some time to put together, but this isn’t really the culmination of 10 months of talks.

This was a separate deal that gathered momentum once the Coyotes became willing to take literally all of Vancouver’s inefficient bottom-six forward deals and include Conor Garland.

As The Athletic understands it, the first-round pick was included fairly early in the process, although it was more hypothetical at first. By the time talks intensified and the possibility became real, Vancouver had a better sense of how the draft board was unfolding in front of them. In particular, it became clear that their top targets — Luke Hughes and Kent Johnson, most notably — weren’t going to make it to No. 9.

That wasn’t a decisive factor shaping this deal for Vancouver, but it did play a role.

The final pieces to come together were the extra picks, a 2022 second-rounder that hit the table once the two sides got into the weeds on precisely what the retention percentage would look like. Finally, the Canucks included a 2023 seventh-round pick at Arizona’s request late in the process.

From Vancouver’s perspective, they felt this deal was a unique opportunity, one they couldn’t miss.

The club believes in Ekman-Larsson and is extremely high on Garland. They were never going to find another deal that permitted them to get a high-end top-six forward and a player they see as a top-four calibre defender in the same trade that also permitted them to shed $12 million in inefficient contracts — a windmill Benning and company have been tilting at since September 2020, with no success until Friday. They included the seventh-rounder to get the deal across the line.

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[quote=Brooks_Light]

Solid choices.
I won't be disappointed with Harrison, Pinelli or Helenius up front, but would prefer a defenseman.

- Brooks_Light

BPA on day 2

Defence
Owen Zellweger - hell no
Jacob Guevin - nope
Daniil Chayka -YES
Simon Motew -not a chance
Vincent Lorio- 3rd round
Evan Nause - HELL YES
Kirill Kirsanov - absolutely
Brent Johnson - maybe
Stanislav Szovil - absolutely

Also, Richard, Whynot, Olsson - hoping for D

Nause probably the guy I would have liked the least

Those were just the D that I expect to go in round 2.

Thanks to not having a 3rd or 4th round pick. Basically all other RHD I wanted will be off the board.

Finally a thread worth login in for.

Saturday late round sleepers 5-6-7

Very young players in this draft, ton of room for growth but still had decent to good seasons.

Jeremi Tammela - smallish winger
https://www.eliteprospect...yer/556891/jeremi-tammela

Elias Sjostrom - LHD
https://www.eliteprospect...yer/424865/elias-sjostrom

Charles-Alexis Legault 6'4" RHD Misses the draft by 11 days. Going to BU this year
https://www.eliteprospect...94/charles-alexis-legault

Dmitri Buchelnikov small Russian winger
https://www.eliteprospect...698717/dmitri-buchelnikov

Jacob Podhajsky
https://www.eliteprospect...er/615788/jacob-podhajsky

Vasili Shumilov Offensive RHD decent size
https://www.eliteprospect...er/698929/vasili-shumilov

James Stefan Offensive RHD good size plays for Portland.
https://www.eliteprospect...layer/480110/james-stefan

Ryan McCleary RHD TWD Plays for Portland
https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/483627/ryan-mccleary

Finally a thread worth login in for.
- boonerbuck

Heyyy

The Sedin effect:
- NewYorkNuck

What a lot of people don't see with OEL is the human factor. 3 years with a coach that he doesn't get along with, and 2 of those years on a team that wants to get rid of his salary because they can't afford the cash. This stuff affects your play on the ice. He's coming in to a team and coach that want and respect him, he's going to be better IMO.

What a lot of people don't see with OEL is the human factor. 3 years with a coach that he doesn't get along with, and 2 of those years on a team that wants to get rid of his salary because they can't afford the cash. This stuff affects your play on the ice. He's coming in to a team and coach that want and respect him, he's going to be better IMO.
- Retinalz

I never read anything about him and the coach not getting along.