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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 23 @ 6:29 PM ET
So seriously in this draft what is realistic what 9th would turn into?

Top 6 F ceiling? So Garland cancels that.

- Nighthawk

Nobody is upset about acquiring Garland, it's the OEL deal that's the scary part. We potentially took on another anchor contract, it's a huge risk. If OEL doesn't up his game substantially we just traded LE, Beagle and Roussel for another 6 years of LE.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
Nobody is upset about acquiring Garland, it's the OEL deal that's the scary part. We potentially took on another anchor contracts, it's a huge risk. If OEL doesn't up his game substantially we just traded LE, Beagle and Roussel for another 6 years of LE.
- golfingsince


Stop whining, it was a good trade, plan the parade
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
Roasted on the athletic
- NewYorkNuck

Someone figure out a way to resurrect OEL. Maybe he becomes the next Jeff Petry?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
Remove the pom poms from your rear and maybe I'll give you a small Benning cheer.
- Codes1087

I haven’t commented on the trade. Just stopped by to see the hilarious overreactions
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
Golfing, ASL, RC, Marwood, carso and mini fighting for 2nd place whiner award.
- Codes1087

I'll let it play out.

Although it looks like a disaster it does have the potential to be a steal.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Nobody is upset about acquiring Garland, it's the OEL deal that's the scary part. We potentially took on another anchor contract, it's a huge risk. If OEL doesn't up his game substantially we just traded LE, Beagle and Roussel for another 6 years of LE.
- golfingsince

Fair take on the risk but that’s also the extreme OEL has diminished to that degree. A new start from leaving a horrible organization has to be a plus. Cap retained makes it more palatable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:33 PM ET
All you Benning fans can listen to him at 4 pm on SN650.

I am sure he will explain how he cares about what you all think
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
I haven’t commented on the trade. Just stopped by to see the hilarious overreactions
- CanuckDon

The sky is falling lol
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
I haven’t commented on the trade. Just stopped by to see the hilarious overreactions
- CanuckDon


Every Benning move, trade, draft pick or signing had always been an over reaction with you slurpers. After 7+ years, he has sure shown us nay-sayers that we have been wrong to "over react"

24th in the league and last in the weakest Pacific division
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
Golfing, ASL, RC, Marwood, carso and mini fighting for 2nd place whiner award.
- Codes1087

Oh I'm happy, I'll be cheering all season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:34 PM ET
All you Benning fans can listen to him at 4 pm on SN650.

I am sure he will explain how he cares about what you all think

- VANTEL

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
All you Benning fans can listen to him at 4 pm on SN650.

I am sure he will explain how he cares about what you all think

- VANTEL

Anything Jimbo does stokes the hysteria whiners. Lol
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
So seriously in this draft what is realistic what 9th would turn into?

Top 6 F ceiling? So Garland cancels that.

- Nighthawk

sure, that wouldn't be unrealistic.

the context around it is that he is now on his second contract and the team just took on a contract for 7.25 for six years. that's a bad contract.

so if you combine those two things together it means that this team has to win pretty soon or the team's cap falls apart.

jb manages a cap like someone who uses those payday loan places.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
I'll let it play out.

Although it looks like a disaster it does have the potential to be a steal.

- golfingsince


It has the potential to go either way. Again though, trading 1st round draft picks when you are a bottom team in the league is never good. I'm hoping Schmidt is traded from some draft picks, can't keep sacrificing futures for now.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:35 PM ET
Benning has this draft to restock the cupboards without a 1st round pick. This draft, and malone, McDonough, Truscott, dipietro and gadjovich are our prospects. So our core is better than what Gillis left, but we will have two 36 year old defenseman on 6 and 7 mill aav contracts that will accompany this core.
- Codes1087

Woo is still in the system. Jurmo, Focht, Lockwood, Silvos. We still have some prospects with a shot, and lots of time to restock before our current core starts to age out.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
Fair take on the risk but that’s also the extreme OEL has diminished to that degree. A new start from leaving a horrible organization has to be a plus. Cap retained makes it more palatable.
- Nighthawk

I guess it would also be extreme to say PK Subban declined that much?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
sure, that wouldn't be unrealistic.

the context around it is that he is now on his second contract and the team just took on a contract for 7.25 for six years. that's a bad contract.

so if you combine those two things together it means that this team has to win pretty soon or the team's cap falls apart.

jb manages a cap like someone who uses those payday loan places.

- RealityChecker


Donny would like a word with you
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:36 PM ET
I'll let it play out.

Although it looks like a disaster it does have the potential to be a steal.

- golfingsince



Not sure about the steal part but I feel the same. I can legitimately see this team making he playoffs and winning a round or two the next couple years. That's enough for me.

I tend to think of we can't win with Horvat on this contract we are going to be back to the retool anyways.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
I hear yah, but who's to say the 9th doesn't turn into a Shinakruk, Gaunce, Jensen, Virtanen, McCann, O.J. etc.

Atleast we have known assets. Don't think I could stomach another top 10 bust.

I'm extremely curious what the cap situation looks like now though.
Again, we now need new contracts for Pett, Hughes, D!ckerson and Garland...

- Whiskey-Tango


If Benning can dump Schmidt today, or soon, I call it a pretty good off-season.

Just don't add picks to get rid of him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Anything Jimbo does stokes the hysteria whiners. Lol
- Nighthawk


I really don't care one way or the other . Half the comments I skip over here and talk to a few people only. If they want to be upset , cool . They can say whatever they want but there is a good chance I am not reading it anyways
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
sure, that wouldn't be unrealistic.

the context around it is that he is now on his second contract and the team just took on a contract for 7.25 for six years. that's a bad contract.

so if you combine those two things together it means that this team has to win pretty soon or the team's cap falls apart.

jb manages a cap like someone who uses those payday loan places.

- RealityChecker

Yup
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
Woo is still in the system. Jurmo, Focht, Lockwood, Silvos. We still have some prospects with a shot, and lots of time to restock before our current core starts to age out.
- Retinalz


Those are B level prospects at best.
Again, everyone said he's a draft guru, but has dealt more picks than he has obtained over 7 years. Benning is going all in this year, and I get it, it's just not what I would have done, but I'm not an NHL GM so there's that
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
It has the potential to go either way. Again though, trading 1st round draft picks when you are a bottom team in the league is never good. I'm hoping Schmidt is traded from some draft picks, can't keep sacrificing futures for now.
- Codes1087

We have $18-19M right now with EP, QH and Garland to sign. They either need to move salary or some entry level deals are going to have to make big contributions.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
My overview take…

JB is sold on OEL will rebound.
He got his top 6 winger & better than some might understand. 3rd line looking awesome.The 9oa isn’t stellar but still good. That pick is overrated. Cap dumps expedited the rebuild & all in mode for the playoffs. More moves coming no doubt.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 23 @ 6:40 PM ET

Not sure about the steal part but I feel the same. I can legitimately see this team making he playoffs and winning a round or two the next couple years. That's enough for me.

I tend to think of we can't win with Horvat on this contract we are going to be back to the retool anyways.

- belcherbd

Honestly, if we can't show Bo and company that we are willing to compete this year and make the team better, we may as well trade Bo, Miller, Boeser and rebuild all over. Do you think Bo is re-signing in 2 years to a team still thinking about its cupboards today?
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