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shack67
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Jul 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Haven't been here in years, do they think maybe they can fit any more advertisements on here holy it looks like a European hockey sweater on here..
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Aaron_85
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Jul 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Philly got future consideration + Ghost cap space (4.5M)
- dmnted


I always thought cap space wasn't considered an actual return.
winsix
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Jul 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
But why is Dubas trading Kerfoot. Where is the notion that Kerfoot could be traded coming from?

I would love to see him traded, I have seen nothing that says this is even remotely on Dubas' radar. I think he sees him as Tavares and Willies linemate next season.

He literally made a trade to keep Kerfoot.

- joel878


Not exactly so. He traded a seventh and a bottom to middle prospect so he wouldn't lose Kerfoot for nothing. If he turns around an trades Kerfoot for a 2nd, it's a win.
dmnted
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Jul 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
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same family

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dmnted
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Jul 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
I always thought cap space wasn't considered an actual return.
- Aaron_85

Philly now has an extra 4.5M to go shopping with
Fakepartofme
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Jul 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Philly now has an extra 4.5M to go shopping with
- dmnted

Good on them.
Monkeypunk
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Jul 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
I always thought cap space wasn't considered an actual return.
- Aaron_85


The capspace is a byproduct. But apparently "Future Considerations" is a return.
Leafsmart
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Jul 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
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RickJames77
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Jul 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
Does this Goodrow contract remind anyone else of the one the Bruins signed Matt Beleskey to?

Talking to a buddy about it. I think it is, he thinks it isn’t.
Aaron_85
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Jul 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
The capspace is a byproduct. But apparently "Future Considerations" is a return.
- Monkeypunk


I am guessing Coyotes want to get into the first round with their 4 second round picks. Or do they look at it like a crazy draft and just make the 4 picks.
MaximusAurelius
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Jul 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
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Aaron_85
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Jul 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Does this Goodrow contract remind anyone else of the one the Bruins signed Matt Beleskey to?
- RickJames77


Yes. But cheaper?
RickJames77
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Jul 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
Yes. But cheaper?
- Aaron_85

Marginally? I don’t know how much the cap has gone up since we signed him. But yeah, a bit cheaper.

I just looked. The cap was around 70 million and Goodrow’s hit is 200k less and a year longer.

The equivalent to Beleskey’s AAV today would be 4.4 so let’s say the Bruins signed him for 6 years and it goes down to 4.1 or something. Cheaper, sure, but they seem similar. Not too far off. Beleskey was also younger I think.

Either way, I don’t like it for them.
PatC80
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Jul 22 @ 3:01 PM ET
Yeah, has this always been a legal thing?
- mjones242



I guess, it is legal once Lou does it
RickJames77
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Jul 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
I’ve been predicting the great Bruins collapse for years now. One of these years it’s gonna happen, just you wait.
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MaximusAurelius
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Jul 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
The fact that Hyman wants to go to poophole Edmonton instead of staying in Toronto, apart from the extra money is an indication as well that he's not very happy with the team culture. Could see how a character guy that works hard, is intelligent and wants to win cost what costs doesn't like the entitlement culture around him.
I hope it works out for him (but what a cost to pay living in Edmonton.... I guess being 50% on the road and having a June-Oct Summer pause where he can train wherever he wants makes up for it to some extent).
Aaron_85
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Jul 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
Marginally? I don’t know how much the cap has gone up since we signed him. But yeah, a bit cheaper.

I just looked. The cap was around 70 million and Goodrow’s hit is 200k less and a year longer.

The equivalent to Beleskey’s AAV today would be 4.4 so let’s say the Bruins signed him for 6 years and it goes down to 4.1 or something. Cheaper, sure, but they seem similar. Not too far off. Beleskey was also younger I think.

Either way, I don’t like it for them.

- RickJames77


I dont either but hey good for Goodrow.
Monkeypunk
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Jul 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
Marginally? I don’t know how much the cap has gone up since we signed him. But yeah, a bit cheaper.

I just looked. The cap was around 70 million and Goodrow’s hit is 200k less and a year longer.

The equivalent to Beleskey’s AAV today would be 4.4 so let’s say the Bruins signed him for 6 years and it goes down to 4.1 or something. Cheaper, sure, but they seem similar. Not too far off. Beleskey was also younger I think.

- RickJames77



Just looked. Yeah. They had Beleskey at 5.21% of the cap and Goodrow is at 4.7%. Goodrow is 6 years, and Beleskey was 5.

It's still a significant chunk of change and term for a guy who is a bottom-6 player and will likely be a 4th line player before the contract runs out.
Monkeypunk
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Jul 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
The fact that Hyman wants to go to poophole Edmonton instead of staying in Toronto, apart from the extra money is an indication as well that he's not very happy with the team culture. Could see how a character guy that works hard, is intelligent and wants to win cost what costs doesn't like the entitlement culture around him.
I hope it works out for him (but what a cost to pay living in Edmonton.... I guess being 50% on the road and having a June-Oct Summer pause where he can train wherever he wants makes up for it to some extent).

- MaximusAurelius



Thank you for your clearly unbiased input.
RickJames77
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Jul 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
I dont either but hey good for Goodrow.
- Aaron_85

Way to parlay your postseason success into a good pay day

Can’t fault a guy for that one bit.
RickJames77
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Jul 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
Just looked. Yeah. They had Beleskey at 5.21% of the cap and Goodrow is at 4.7%. Goodrow is 6 years, and Beleskey was 5.

It's still a significant chunk of change and term for a guy who is a bottom-6 player and will likely be a 4th line player before the contract runs out.

- Monkeypunk
I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t out of the league, Robidas islanded, or traded for cap relief by the time that contract runs out.

I really hate long term for bottom 6 or bottom pairing defenseman, so I’m maybe being unfair here.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
The fact that Hyman wants to go to poophole Edmonton instead of staying in Toronto, apart from the extra money is an indication as well that he's not very happy with the team culture. Could see how a character guy that works hard, is intelligent and wants to win cost what costs doesn't like the entitlement culture around him.
I hope it works out for him (but what a cost to pay living in Edmonton.... I guess being 50% on the road and having a June-Oct Summer pause where he can train wherever he wants makes up for it to some extent).

- MaximusAurelius


He chose Edmonton over 31 other teams.

Therefore, Edmonton's culture is better than that of those 31 other teams.

~Minimus
Leafsmart
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Jul 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm just glad the Leafs aren't the ones paying for that Hall contract. Good luck Boston.
mjones242
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Jul 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
I guess, it is legal once Lou does it
- PatC80

Of course, I should have thought of that angle.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
The fact that Hyman wants to go to poophole Edmonton instead of staying in Toronto, apart from the extra money is an indication as well that he's not very happy with the team culture. Could see how a character guy that works hard, is intelligent and wants to win cost what costs doesn't like the entitlement culture around him.
I hope it works out for him (but what a cost to pay living in Edmonton.... I guess being 50% on the road and having a June-Oct Summer pause where he can train wherever he wants makes up for it to some extent).

- MaximusAurelius


Completely agree.

Totally about culture.

That's why he is leaving to go to perennial winning team that doesn't have a culture of losing....

Edmonton.
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