His analytics takes werent working so those guys were a more physical/skill add, a switch from what he was doing.
Which seemed to be working until they got injured. Simmonds was great before the injury and Foligno looked decent before his.
- Fakepartofme

other thing is most teams are using analytics teams...so its not just a couple teams

Buffalo just hired Sam Ventura. so makes sense they dump risto

Is Hyman to the Oilers official yet?

Edit: just realized it can't be.

Duh.

Is Hyman to the Oilers official yet?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think he is going.

Seems like no agreement on compensation to the Leafs (if any)

Is Hyman to the Oilers official yet?

Edit: just realized it can't be.

Duh.
- Atomic Wedgie

It could be if there was a sign-and-trade or trade-and-sign.

Those were all acquisitions he made this past season, presumably, to offset his purely analytics driven moves.

But yeah, it could be that we're overrating his analytics brain because he wears glasses (I kid!) and that was the narrative that was sold when he was brought in as Asst. GM.
- mjones242

I think collectively, we are all jaded and depressed... So, ummmm... Go Leafs Go I guess...

It could be if there was a sign-and-trade or trade-and-sign.
- mjones242

Or a sign and a frank off note from Edmonton saying no thanks

It could be if there was a sign-and-trade or trade-and-sign.
- mjones242

If not it would be

Zach Hyman (29)

7x$5.5M


Josh Anderson (26)

7x5.5M

I think collectively, we are all jaded and depressed... So, ummmm... Go Leafs Go I guess...
- PatC80

I'm not looking forward to rolling out the same core again for another run.

Really, really hoping for a seismic move (Rielly, Marner).

Expecting Tomas Tatar and Petr Mrazek.

It could be if there was a sign-and-trade or trade-and-sign.
- mjones242

Would you take the rumored 6th or 7th Edmonton is offering for the 8th year? I wonder if it’s even worth it to help out Edmonton. Then again, they are in the west and teams do develop trade relationships.

On the other hand, I don’t think Holland is going to last too long with what he’s doing out there

And of course there are people here who don’t think Dubas will either.

I think collectively, we are all jaded and depressed... So, ummmm... Go Leafs Go I guess...
- PatC80

I think life is wonderful

I think collectively, we are all jaded and depressed... So, ummmm... Go Leafs Go I guess...
- PatC80

I'm just about done with this team. If it weren't for the young stars in Matthew's and Marner I probably would be.

If I'm Shanny, I give Dubas one last year to get out of the first round. If he doesn't, fired. Bring in an experienced GM and tell him, Matthew's stays, aside from that have at it, trade anyone you please.

Or a sign and a frank off note from Edmonton saying no thanks
- PatC80

I'm fully expecting that because: (frank) the Leafs.

Would you take the rumored 6th or 7th Edmonton is offering for the 8th year? I wonder if it’s even worth it to help out Edmonton. Then again, they are in the west and teams do develop trade relationships.

On the other hand, I don’t think Holland is going to last too long with what he’s doing out there

And of course there are people here who don’t think Dubas will either.
- RickJames77

I'd hope it would be something better than a 6th rd pick.

I'm just about done with this team. If it weren't for the young stars in Matthew's and Marner I probably would be.

If I'm Shanny, I give Dubas one last year to get out of the first round. If he doesn't, fired. Bring in an experienced GM and tell him, Matthew's stays, aside from that have at it, trade anyone you please.
- systemtool

Yup.

AM34 is the franchise and the rest can (frank) off.

I'm just about done with this team. If it weren't for the young stars in Matthew's and Marner I probably would be.

If I'm Shanny, I give Dubas one last year to get out of the first round. If he doesn't, fired. Bring in an experienced GM and tell him, Matthew's stays, aside from that have at it, trade anyone you please.
- systemtool

Agree, trade anyone but Matthews.. Marner can go fly a kite in Arizona..

I think this will be Dubas' last year if they lose in the first round again or miss the playoffs

I'm not looking forward to rolling out the same core again for another run.

Really, really hoping for a seismic move (Rielly, Marner).

Expecting Tomas Tatar and Petr Mrazek.
- mjones242

Rielly for sure. His contract expires and he's not worth a raise on a long term contract. Enough letting guys wall for nothing, which I would normally be fine with, If we won some rounds now and then. Nothing stinks worse than losing players for nothing, trading high picks and decent prospects, just to win as many rounds as teams that miss the playoffs.

Yup.

AM34 is the franchise and the rest can (frank) off.
- mjones242

Lol, watch Marner go on a tear in the playoffs and Matthews put the puck over the glass 6 times

I'd hope it would be something better than a 6th rd pick.
- PatC80

I get it. I don’t see the value from Edmonton’s perspective to go much higher than that.

Buffalo thread is happy.

Flyers thread is...less than happy.
- Atomic Wedgie

Unhappy Flyers threads are tasty reading.

Agree, trade anyone but Matthews.. Marner can go fly a kite in Arizona..

I think this will be Dubas' last year if they lose in the first round again or miss the playoffs
- PatC80

I prefer to keep Marner cause if you're trading all of Matthew's buddies he's as good as gone too with his Pals all gone and him being next in line to be the next whipping boy.

I think life is wonderful
- Canada Cup

I don't know bud.. At this point, I am not even sure that the playoffs are a guarantee.
Atlantic division with Tampa, Boston, Florida and franking Ottawa, with some decent goaltending could surprise a lot of people.

Buchnevich to Blues according to Dreger.

Lol, watch Marner go on a tear in the playoffs and Matthews put the puck over the glass 6 times
- Canada Cup

I'll put Marner's points-per-game over/under in next year's playoffs at 1, and take the over. Bookmarked.

I get it. I don’t see the value from Edmonton’s perspective to go much higher than that.
- RickJames77

To save the reported $500k in cap space? Maybe.. If that is the best offer, then let him sign for 7 years in Edmonton at a higher cap hit

I get it. I don’t see the value from Edmonton’s perspective to go much higher than that.
- RickJames77

Holland needs to spend as much as he can in the short term (even stupidly) before Draisaitl and McDavid’s contracts expire. He’d sign Hyman to a 15 year contract if he could