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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Is Jake Bean any good?

Seravalli says he can be had for a 2nd rounder.

- Leafs43


the next travis dermott?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Kerfoot is going nowhere... Dubas used two assets to protect him..

I expect no changes from this team other than 1G and 1LW

- PatC80


I don't think this is the correct way to look at it.

Dubas traded a 7th round pick and a prospect to protect his roster from having a hole in it that he couldn't afford to fill. He was good with either Kerfoot or McCann being on the roster.

On TSN overdrive he spoke about protecting Holl. He said him and the team decided if Seattle took Holl they likely would have flipped him and that the leafs couldn't replace what he brought to the team for the same cap hit.

He never once said he wouldn't upgrade but why not trade Holl yourself if there's an apparent market for him? Why let Seattle get that win?

It's literally a prospect and a 7th to protect the roster from losing something of value to the expansion.
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jul 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
the next travis dermott?
- TheMussel

So no..
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
I don't think this is the correct way to look at it.

Dubas traded a 7th round pick and a prospect to protect his roster from having a hole in it that he couldn't afford to fill. He was good with either Kerfoot or McCann being on the roster.

On TSN overdrive he spoke about protecting Holl. He said him and the team decided if Seattle took Holl they likely would have flipped him and that the leafs couldn't replace what he brought to the team for the same cap hit.

He never once said he wouldn't upgrade but why not trade Holl yourself if there's an apparent market for him? Why let Seattle get that win?

It's literally a prospect and a 7th to protect the roster from losing something of value to the expansion.

- Aaron_85

Dubas is the worst GM since JFJ.

The way you guys defend him is ludacris.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
There's an argument that could be made that if they trade Rielly for futures and cap space and sign Hamilton, they make out better.

There's another argument that could be made if they go for cap space and a cheap replacement that can actually defend... They make out better.

- joel878

I want the picks and a cheap replacement
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Wow that was a haul for Risto.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Earl Schwartz
@EarlSchwartz27
So Philly paid the 13th overall, a 2022 2nd, a 2023 2nd, a 2022 7th, and Robert Hagg to "upgrade" from Gostisbehere to Ristolainen.

Plus he costs $900k more this season. What on earth.


this is incredibly bad.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
this is incredibly bad.
- senstroll

Its horrible
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Dubas is the worst GM since JFJ.

The way you guys defend him is ludacris.

- Horsey Sauce


Nonis was 400x worse and that might be underslling it.

Burke was worse, but not as bad..he accomplished nothing
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Dubas is the worst GM since JFJ.

The way you guys defend him is ludacris.

- Horsey Sauce


You do know this is the guy who has had arguably the best teams in franchise history right?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Dubas is the worst GM since JFJ.

The way you guys defend him is ludacris.

- Horsey Sauce


you just hate him because he's young
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
the next travis dermott?
- TheMussel


Meaning he isn't good?

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
this is incredibly bad.
- senstroll


It's only a 2023 2nd round pick
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Jake Bean for a 2nd, 5th and 6th

Do it Dubious!
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Meaning he isn't good?
- Leafs43


who can ever know!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Dubas is the worst GM since JFJ.

The way you guys defend him is ludacris.

- Horsey Sauce


We defend him like a bad rapper? Skalapy doesn't defend him at all.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
Dahlin is -56 in 2.5 seasons
- Garnie

Never underestimate the Sabres' ability to destroy careers.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
You do know this is the guy who has had arguably the best teams in franchise history right?
- Aaron_85


the thing I am most disappointed in with Dubas, is I thought he would be able to take advantage of other dumb GMs (like buff just did).


havent seen much of that at all. and he should be doing it..all the time

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
the thing I am most disappointed in with Dubas, is I thought he would be able to take advantage of other dumb GMs (like buff just did).


havent seen much of that at all. and he should be doing it..all the time

- senstroll

To take advantage of other GMs you usually have to be a seller though.

IMO
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
I don't think this is the correct way to look at it.

Dubas traded a 7th round pick and a prospect to protect his roster from having a hole in it that he couldn't afford to fill. He was good with either Kerfoot or McCann being on the roster.

On TSN overdrive he spoke about protecting Holl. He said him and the team decided if Seattle took Holl they likely would have flipped him and that the leafs couldn't replace what he brought to the team for the same cap hit.

He never once said he wouldn't upgrade but why not trade Holl yourself if there's an apparent market for him? Why let Seattle get that win?

It's literally a prospect and a 7th to protect the roster from losing something of value to the expansion.

- Aaron_85

I think Holl gets you more post-expansion than he would pre because team's would have to protect their new asset.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
the thing I am most disappointed in with Dubas, is I thought he would be able to take advantage of other dumb GMs (like buff just did).


havent seen much of that at all. and he should be doing it..all the time

- senstroll

Yup. With his galaxy analytics brain shouldn't he be finding the gems among these teams being run by moron GMs?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Jake Bean for a 2nd, 5th and 6th

Do it Dubious!

- Symba007

Jake Bean is a RFA. That's why he's available. Dimestore Donny Waddell doesn't want to pay him.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Jake Bean for a 2nd, 5th and 6th

Do it Dubious!

- Symba007

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
To take advantage of other GMs you usually have to be a seller though.

IMO

- TheMussel


it helps, but there is still opportunities.
a team like Boston seems to be able to do it
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
the thing I am most disappointed in with Dubas, is I thought he would be able to take advantage of other dumb GMs (like buff just did).


havent seen much of that at all. and he should be doing it..all the time

- senstroll


That is a fair take. I think so far he has had good returns. Kadri seems like a wash but he's definitely won Muzzin and Campbell trades.
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