Puckpedia says $4.9/year for 5 years for Preds and $490K/year for 5 years for Habs

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- Canada Cup

Yup. If he retires early his yearly cap hit is 24M+ divided by the years remaining.

Yup. If he retires early his yearly cap hit is 24M+ divided by the years remaining.
- mjones242

I hope he's putting the franking screws to Nashville.

"Hey Poilsie - my wife and I would like to come down to Nashville, stay in a nice hotel and check out some music shows. My wallet is locked in the safe that has my retirement papers - what do you think I should do?"

Yup. If he retires early his yearly cap hit is 24M+ divided by the years remaining.
- mjones242

They both have 4 years left at 11M - if we are comparing contracts, Marner could easily out perform JT in those 4 years.

If the reported offer sheet was similar to what Marner signed for, the Leafs should have surely taken the 4 firsts, but that is a different discussion.
- winsix

You need to compare the negotiating strength when comparing contracts.

As a UFA JT had a LOT more strength to negotiate than Marner did.

IMO JT contract is 1M too high and Marner 2M too high.

I hope he's putting the franking screws to Nashville.

"Hey Poilsie - my wife and I would like to come down to Nashville, stay in a nice hotel and check out some music shows. My wallet is locked in the safe that has my retirement papers - what do you think I should do?"
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh, how I would love to see this play out. And the added benefit of the Habs getting at least a little bit screwed would be awesome-sauce.

You need to compare the negotiating strength when comparing contracts.

As a UFA JT had a LOT more strength to negotiate than Marner did.

IMO JT contract is 1M too high and Marner 2M too high.
- Nasty_Duck

Fair

Yup. If he retires early his yearly cap hit is 24M+ divided by the years remaining.
- mjones242

Which makes no sense. The longer he plays (fulfilling more of the contract) the worse it becomes. They should be reducing the total penalty for every year he plays.

But I think the NHL would have stepped in and changed the penalty if it came to that. Can't have a team taking a 24M cap-hit penalty in one season.

Oh, one more question....if Webber is done...how does that play out for Montreal and Nashville on the $ side of things?
- underhill14

he plays out his contract on the LTIR

Trading for Campbell was great.

Picking up Galchenyuk looks good on him.

the Kadri trade can be viewed either way.

I really like the Muzzin trade.

Apparently Dubas made a great presentation on the John Tavares signing.

T J Brodie signing was great.

It hasn't been 100% poop.
- Atomic Wedgie

Given where they are with cap, prospects, goaltending, draft picks and series wins, how good were those moves. Clearly none of them were difference making.

If you retire, you don't get paid the full amount of the contract.

If you remain in LTIR, you keep all the money.

Guess what I would do?

Guess what Weber will do?
- Atomic Wedgie

Why would Weber ever retire when he gets paid for just not playing.

This is why no contract is really as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

Put him on LTIR and sign another big name. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The fact that Hyman wants to go to poophole Edmonton instead of staying in Toronto, apart from the extra money is an indication as well that he's not very happy with the team culture. Could see how a character guy that works hard, is intelligent and wants to win cost what costs doesn't like the entitlement culture around him.
I hope it works out for him (but what a cost to pay living in Edmonton.... I guess being 50% on the road and having a June-Oct Summer pause where he can train wherever he wants makes up for it to some extent).
- MaximusAurelius

already have Greedy mitch, dont need Greedy Zach.

Mitch should give him about 2 mil a year so he can stay

already have Greedy mitch, dont need Greedy Zach.

Mitch should give him about 2 mil a year so he can stay
- senstroll

Anyone making more the Kucherov and not scoring 100 points, send them packing.

#overpaid

- winsix

So good

Look at that table, if Weber retires (or dies) before that last year of his deal, Preds get a $24M cap hit right up the wazoo. There would be less than $1 M of pre-tax money on the line for him.
- winsix

Fine. I’m just saying insurance can squawk all they like but when they put high priced sports docs on the stand against insurance docs, the sports docs win. Teams and players bring in the top guys to treat them. They have extensive medical history with the player and will win if there’s a fight.

apologies if you live in Edmonton.
Passed by there for a few days while on a trip from Toronto through Canada to Vancouver Island.
Edmonton was.. not the most interesting part of the trip.
- MaximusAurelius

Edmonton gets a bad rap. Most urban green space in North America, best beer store in Canada and the mountains.

Also when you're wealthy and live in a mansion, and can afford the best of anything, which city you're in probably evens out.

Given where they are with cap, prospects, goaltending, draft picks and series wins, how good were those moves. Clearly none of them were difference making.
- Interloper

You know it was 12 years from when Tampa drafted Stamkos first overall before they won the cup? Obviously they made a lot moves between then and now - including drafting Hedman, Vasilevskiy and so on . . . but it's only been 5 since we drafted Matthews.

Everyone talks about windows closing, but Washington took 12 years from Ovechkin being drafted as well.

Some teams - like Chicago or Pittsburgh have it happen faster.

I don't love everything they've done or are doing, but I'm trying not be too impatient with the process.

Edmonton gets a bad rap. Most urban green space in North America, best beer store in Canada and the mountains.

Also when you're wealthy and live in a mansion, and can afford the best of anything, which city you're in probably evens out.
- Zezel

poop cold in the winter but not Winnipeg cold.

Which makes no sense. The longer he plays (fulfilling more of the contract) the worse it becomes. They should be reducing the total penalty for every year he plays.

But I think the NHL would have stepped in and changed the penalty if it came to that. Can't have a team taking a 24M cap-hit penalty in one season.
- Nasty_Duck

Yeah, it's pretty bonkers.

You know it was 12 years from when Tampa drafted Stamkos first overall before they won the cup? Obviously they made a lot moves between then and now - including drafting Hedman, Vasilevskiy and so on . . . but it's only been 5 since we drafted Matthews.

Everyone talks about windows closing, but Washington took 12 years from Ovechkin being drafted as well.

Some teams - like Chicago or Pittsburgh have it happen faster.

I don't love everything they've done or are doing, but I'm trying not be too impatient with the process.
- Monkeypunk

Comparing them to situations that worked out well eventually is not going to over well with the MegaDowners and Dubas Victims.

poop cold in the winter but not Winnipeg cold.
- Canada Cup

The dryness makes it less punishing than I thought. Same with the heat. The long summer days at that latitude and big sky were nice. Jasper is the best.

I doubt Hyman will go to the mall so he should be okay.

The dryness makes it less punishing than I thought. Same with the heat. The long summer days at that latitude and big sky were nice. Jasper is the best.

I doubt Hyman will go to the mall so he should be okay.
- Zezel

I'm still surprised he'd leave for Edmonton , I know it's more money, but still. How much money to people need

Edmonton gets a bad rap. Most urban green space in North America, best beer store in Canada and the mountains.

Also when you're wealthy and live in a mansion, and can afford the best of anything, which city you're in probably evens out.
- Zezel

Edmonton is several hours away from the mountains

You know it was 12 years from when Tampa drafted Stamkos first overall before they won the cup? Obviously they made a lot moves between then and now - including drafting Hedman, Vasilevskiy and so on . . . but it's only been 5 since we drafted Matthews.

Everyone talks about windows closing, but Washington took 12 years from Ovechkin being drafted as well.

Some teams - like Chicago or Pittsburgh have it happen faster.

I don't love everything they've done or are doing, but I'm trying not be too impatient with the process.
- Monkeypunk

None of those teams had 40 million tied up in 4 forwards....two of which are soft.
Jt and am are studs.

Edmonton is several hours away from the mountains
- Fakepartofme

I know, I lived there.