1 point in his 16 game's minus 7. I guess Patrick blew harder measuring it in 16 game stretches
- THE EVIL WITHIN

If you think Stewart was signed to score goals and light up the score sheet you were not informed properly 😂.

Yeah, tell me more about Ghost’s season last year as your story continues to go in like three different directions.
- SuperSchennBros

And all the guys you tried to spin their poor seasons with BS excuses and ridiculous revisionist history of their poor play have been shipped away. …thank god Fletcher doesn’t take his cues from you.

If you think Stewart was signed to score goals and light up the score sheet you were not informed properly 😂.
- Richieattack18

He was brought in to be flyers developmental coach I guess. If he still have the job

I'm just saying you equated the trading of Ghost to the requirement that Fletcher turns it into something "titanic" along the lines of Jones or Eichel but the value of Ghost, a 2nd and 7th isn't getting you either of those guys, nor any other elite players so I don't understand how this trade drives that requirement.

We can hope that Fletcher is magic but he's not. I expect him to fill the rest of the team's needs after the trade and come out with a better team.
- shekkie

What?

It’s very simple. If you’re going to create space in both cap and roster spots, every fan here should expect something big to happen and this next move should be massive.

There’s no such thing as an irrelevant 1 year minimum deal being one of the worst signings 😂 it’s literally minimum term and cap. Like what are you talking about lol. He doesn’t even rank top 30 in flyers all time worst signings
- Richieattack18

give your top 10 worst

And all the guys you tried to spin their poor seasons with BS excuses and ridiculous revisionist history of their poor play have been shipped away. …thank god Fletcher doesn’t take his cues from you.
- landros 2

This from the guy who can’t tell the difference between when a player is having w good season from a bad season. Very simple. Player puts puck in net multiple times. They’re having a good season.

A little strange you keep bringing up Ghost’s 65 point season when we’re coming off a 56 game schedule

Is Ghost really a shadow of his former self?

Asking for a friend.
- PT21

Every once in a while my response is meant to be humorous.

Titanic…sunk

Edit: didn’t mean to make fun of the conversation…carry on

Ghost…shadow

This from the guy who can’t tell the difference between when a player is having w good season from a bad season. Very simple. Player puts puck in net multiple times. They’re having a good season.

A little strange you keep bringing up Ghost’s 65 point season when we’re coming off a 56 game schedule
- SuperSchennBros

Wow you are either dopey or illiterate. Probably both.

What?

It’s very simple. If you’re going to create space in both cap and roster spots, every fan here should expect something big to happen and this next move should be massive.
- SuperSchennBros

We can hope for something big but we should expect reality which is probably something slightly better than what we had.

This from the guy who can’t tell the difference between when a player is having w good season from a bad season. Very simple. Player puts puck in net multiple times. They’re having a good season.

A little strange you keep bringing up Ghost’s 65 point season when we’re coming off a 56 game schedule
- SuperSchennBros

Really, that's funny. No other aspect to the game.

Soo ... trying to be optimistic here. Some unusual forward lines (with reasoning below):

1. Lindblom - Couts - Allison
2. Farabee-Hayes-TK
3. Giroux-Laughton-Voracek
4. JVR-Frost-NAK

1. Allison gives Couts something he has never had: a big bodied, strong-on-the-boards, defensively responsible shoot-first winger. Along with Lindblom, the 1st line will provide a strong forechecking, physical style of play, controlling possession and scoring goals off the havoc they cause. The prototype I have in mind is the Brown-Kopitar-Williams line from their first run.

2. Fully healed Hayes rediscovers his lateral playmaking and his chemistry with TK from 2020. Bee and TK had some chemistry together too. This is a skill line.

3. Freed of the weight of being the man, Giroux rediscovers his risk-taking 2010 self. With Laughton and Voracek, that is a 1st line on many teams. That line feasts on bad matchups and surprises opponents with our depth.

4. Frost and JVR find surprising chemistry. That is line 3B, not line 4. And NAK complements them, by well, not taking dumb penalties.


Along with a stable defense and Hart returning to form, we surprise teams with our depth and steady team play, returning to the style of 2020 spring, but with more experience. Ellis in particular adds tremendous pop to our offense with his play up front, far more than Niskanen.

What do you guys think?

We can hope for something big but we should expect reality which is probably something slightly better than what we had.
- shekkie

I for one hope it's not something big. Sign Hart and Sanheim. Bring in a backup goalie. I still don't think the defense mix is quite right so I think they'll add another defenseman. Hopefully on a low term low cost deal. Drop the puck.

I would trade back a few - get back that 2022 2nd and select one of those top 2 goalies
- Bayareaflyer

Wallstedt will go in the top 10. Cossa won't make it past 20.

Soo ... trying to be optimistic here. Some unusual forward lines (with reasoning below):

1. Lindblom - Couts - Allison
2. Farabee-Hayes-TK
3. Giroux-Laughton-Voracek
4. JVR-Frost-NAK

1. Allison gives Couts something he has never had: a big bodied, strong-on-the-boards, defensively responsible shoot-first winger. Along with Lindblom, the 1st line will provide a strong forechecking, physical style of play, controlling possession and scoring goals off the havoc they cause. The prototype I have in mind is the Brown-Kopitar-Williams line from their first run.

2. Fully healed Hayes rediscovers his lateral playmaking and his chemistry with TK from 2020. Bee and TK had some chemistry together too. This is a skill line.

3. Freed of the weight of being the man, Giroux rediscovers his risk-taking 2010 self. With Laughton and Voracek, that is a 1st line on many teams. That line feasts on bad matchups and surprises opponents with our depth.

4. Frost and JVR find surprising chemistry. That is line 3B, not line 4. And NAK complements them, by well, not taking dumb penalties.


Along with a stable defense and Hart returning to form, we surprise teams with our depth and steady team play, returning to the style of 2020 spring, but with more experience. Ellis in particular adds tremendous pop to our offense with his play up front, far more than Niskanen.

What do you guys think?
- PT21

I think you hurt yourself. Need to play top offensive players with Couturier. Giroux is not a 3rd line player. JVR is not a 4th line player. Niskanen was no slouch offensively. He improved the team's 2nd PP unit when he was here.

I for one hope it's not something big. Sign Hart and Sanheim. Bring in a backup goalie. I still don't think the defense mix is quite right so I think they'll add another defenseman. Hopefully on a low term low cost deal. Drop the puck.
- MJL

They don't really have the space to do much more than that, barring a hockey trade where they shed some salary. Definitely don't want to see them make any other "cap dump" trades considering the ridiculous prices.

We can hope for something big but we should expect reality which is probably something slightly better than what we had.
- shekkie

We just gave up three NHL players under 30, for an NHL player who is 30. Mine you, not a huge concern because Ellis is a good player. So by making these moves, I expect more good moves to follow or bust.

Something along the lines of Pitkanen and Sanderson for Lupul and Smith. I wanna say Briere was signed the same day but you get what I mean.

They don't really have the space to do much more than that, barring a hockey trade where they shed some salary. Definitely don't want to see them make any other "cap dump" trades considering the ridiculous prices.
- BenderRodriguez

I agree, it's still tight. Sanheim will be somewhere in the 4- 4.5M range. It will be interesting to see where Hart comes in at.

give your top 10 worst
- hello it's me 2050

In no order

Fedetenko
Lecavalier
Shelley
Bryzgalov
Rathje
Randy Jones
Cote
Lilja
Lauridson

This is only from recent memory

Really, that's funny. No other aspect to the game.
- hello it's me 2050

Not when you’re resume says you’re an offensive defenseman. We all knew what Ghost was and to his standard, he had a good season last year.

Soo ... trying to be optimistic here. Some unusual forward lines (with reasoning below):

1. Lindblom - Couts - Allison
2. Farabee-Hayes-TK
3. Giroux-Laughton-Voracek
4. JVR-Frost-NAK

1. Allison gives Couts something he has never had: a big bodied, strong-on-the-boards, defensively responsible shoot-first winger. Along with Lindblom, the 1st line will provide a strong forechecking, physical style of play, controlling possession and scoring goals off the havoc they cause. The prototype I have in mind is the Brown-Kopitar-Williams line from their first run.

2. Fully healed Hayes rediscovers his lateral playmaking and his chemistry with TK from 2020. Bee and TK had some chemistry together too. This is a skill line.

3. Freed of the weight of being the man, Giroux rediscovers his risk-taking 2010 self. With Laughton and Voracek, that is a 1st line on many teams. That line feasts on bad matchups and surprises opponents with our depth.

4. Frost and JVR find surprising chemistry. That is line 3B, not line 4. And NAK complements them, by well, not taking dumb penalties.


Along with a stable defense and Hart returning to form, we surprise teams with our depth and steady team play, returning to the style of 2020 spring, but with more experience. Ellis in particular adds tremendous pop to our offense with his play up front, far more than Niskanen.

What do you guys think?
- PT21

First, I don’t like two smallish wingers with Hayes. Second, I want a scorer with Giroux, and if he stays, a scorer with Voracek. That is way too much playmaking and not enough shooting on that line. Thirdly, I might be inclined to pencil Hayes into the 3C until I see how effective his game is post injury and recovery. Last, I am up in the air about NAK after last season’s showing, and I am not certain if Frost starts on the wing.

The Flyers still need a 2D and a 2nd goalie. Teams still have players with cap/term that they need to move. Is it such a big stretch to imagine that these teams will also be willing to give up draft picks to move these players?
- Dkos

Think Chuck knows he has to move fast. He said in his presser that everything needs to happen early as cap will fill up fast around the league. He sees that it will be more difficult to do anything past the second day of FA.

He has made a more then his share of percentage of moves thus far. He is not sitting back. Whether you like his moves or not it has been entertaining as a fan. Gotta hand it to him. He is going after it. His addition of Ellis and exit of Ghost, Patrick and Myers while losing a 2nd round and 7th round pick next year is interesting.

Think losing Myers is the only one that created a tough hole to fill right now.

I liked Ghost but he struggled to fit on the defense. I think another team maybe the best for him and the team. That term is going to be useful.

Patrick is a talent. Not sure he will reach it but he has talent. But like Ghost, he was not finding a fit here. He needs to be on a top nine role. Not a grinder.

If I had to guess what Fletch is going to do with that money I think he continues to focus on the defense (2RD) and finds a strong veteran defensive center for the 4th line.

Edit: he will need to get a back up goalie but I think already had the room for that. 😜

Wow you are either dopey or illiterate. Probably both.
- landros 2

This season was such a disappointment since he put up that 65 point season




You must have skipped math class.

its amazing to me that ghost was on pace for 18 goals over a full season, for a defenseman. And still have to bribe someone to take him. Thats nuts. Flat cap world i guess, but id think in a non covid season, he would be somewhat valuable.

Soo ... trying to be optimistic here. Some unusual forward lines (with reasoning below):

1. Lindblom - Couts - Allison
2. Farabee-Hayes-TK
3. Giroux-Laughton-Voracek
4. JVR-Frost-NAK

1. Allison gives Couts something he has never had: a big bodied, strong-on-the-boards, defensively responsible shoot-first winger. Along with Lindblom, the 1st line will provide a strong forechecking, physical style of play, controlling possession and scoring goals off the havoc they cause. The prototype I have in mind is the Brown-Kopitar-Williams line from their first run.

2. Fully healed Hayes rediscovers his lateral playmaking and his chemistry with TK from 2020. Bee and TK had some chemistry together too. This is a skill line.

3. Freed of the weight of being the man, Giroux rediscovers his risk-taking 2010 self. With Laughton and Voracek, that is a 1st line on many teams. That line feasts on bad matchups and surprises opponents with our depth.

4. Frost and JVR find surprising chemistry. That is line 3B, not line 4. And NAK complements them, by well, not taking dumb penalties.


Along with a stable defense and Hart returning to form, we surprise teams with our depth and steady team play, returning to the style of 2020 spring, but with more experience. Ellis in particular adds tremendous pop to our offense with his play up front, far more than Niskanen.

What do you guys think?
- PT21

You know EK hearing Tarasenko and Godreau coming in? And Fletcher is a cap wizard genius

The more I think about it, the more I hope they swing for the fences and pick Lysell if he is available at 13.

The Flyers have enough prospects with skating concerns. Its time to go for the burner with skill. Deal with the defense and supposed character issues as they surface.

We need a player like this.
- MBFlyerfan

Lysell my top choice. Don’t think he’ll be there tho. Or chaz. Hopefully 1 of the 2.