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biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
I like Travis and hope he continues to grow as a player but this should be a wake up call to hit the weights this summer. To be rag dolled like this by a way smaller player should be motivation to say I can’t let that happen again.

I’m not looking for him to turn into a huge hitter but those battles can’t be lost that easy if you want to be top 4 defenseman on a winning team.

- Hosher12


i have been a nag on both sanheim and myers bulking up. well one is gone. i have been a nag on frost adding strength. and he got injured for season from garden variety check. i like what cam york did in the weight room. hopefully he makes the team and a difference this season. if a young single pro hockey player cant build some muscle in off season, then they arent taking their jobs seriously. now some speedsters may be exempt here, but we seem short in that department with our kids.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
That's my thinking, too.
- Scoob


Guess:

Provy-Ellis
Sanheim-Vet RHD this move cleared space for
York-Braun

Hagg.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
I am happy that we unloaded Ghost and create cap space for another move. I'm just surprised that we got nothing back. That's all. Looking forward to a few more exciting days...
- cdearth23


How's it a surprise? Nobody wants to take money w/ term. Other teams were interested but they probably wanted Fletch to eat part of the salary or take money back in return.

It's not a reflection on any of these players. It's just the reality of the flat cap -- lot of teams looking to shed salary, not many destinations for that salary to get dumped. You pay for the privilege.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
incorrect
- AGalchenyuk27


Yeah. We had to send those out. I’m still ok with it. What’s the next move?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Some are reporting "future considerations". I have no idea what.
- MBFlyerfan


"future considerations" means Flyers take OEL when he has 2 years left on his contract
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
Guess:

Provy-Ellis
Sanheim-Vet RHD this move cleared space for
York-Braun

Hagg.

- PT21


David Savard on a monster deal incoming. Grossmann all over again.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
David Savard on a monster deal incoming. Grossmann all over again.
- Tomahawk


It’s hard to see him getting a monster deal after seeing Olesiak and Larsson deals
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
David Savard on a monster deal incoming. Grossmann all over again.
- Tomahawk


Why aren't they signing Dougie Hamilton?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
Why aren't they signing Dougie Hamilton?
- PLindbergh31


Assuming Ellis takes them out of the running for top-pair D.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
It's the Jeremy Roenick to SJ again (if true)...which means those future considerations will amount to nothing.
- Sublime55


I read an article about the history of "future considerations " it might have been one of Bill's but I could be wrong. It pretty much always results in absolutely nothing in return.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
David Savard on a monster deal incoming. Grossmann all over again.
- Tomahawk


Ghost 4.5m

Cernak 2.95m


Just saying
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
It’s hard to see him getting a monster deal after seeing Olesiak and Larsson deals
- arichardson22


Oleksiak's was pretty monstrous.
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Ghost, Flyers 2022 2nd and Flyers (from Montreal) 2022 7th for........

Would it really have been too much for Arizona to complete the cliche and send us a bag of pucks?

Will this cause the yearly tradition of swapping out 7th round picks with Montreal to come to an end?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
I read an article about the history of "future considerations " it might have been one of Bill's but I could be wrong. It pretty much always results in absolutely nothing in return.
- dubc55


Which is fine. We tried every route to get rid of him.

What really matters is what chucky does with this space.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:26 PM ET
Ghost, Flyers 2022 2nd and Flyers (from Montreal) 2022 7th for........

Would it really have been too much for Arizona to complete the cliche and send us a bag of pucks?

Will this cause the yearly tradition of swapping out 7th round picks with Montreal to come to an end?

- GeorgeBailey


7th round swap is a running joke...keep em coming!
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Guess:

Provy-Ellis
Sanheim-Vet RHD this move cleared space for
York-Braun

Hagg.

- PT21


You're probably right. Do you think Sanheim gets overtaken by York on the second line at some point this season?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Samson and Risto

for?

13th and ??????
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Ghost 4.5m

Cernak 2.95m


Just saying

- Glak18


Tampa's still looking to move Cernak? Thought that was just an expansion thing.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
How's it a surprise? Nobody wants to take money w/ term. Other teams were interested but they probably wanted Fletch to eat part of the salary or take money back in return.

It's not a reflection on any of these players. It's just the reality of the flat cap -- lot of teams looking to shed salary, not many destinations for that salary to get dumped. You pay for the privilege.

- Tomahawk




get out of here with your reality based opinion.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Tampa's still looking to move Cernak? Thought that was just an expansion thing.
- Tomahawk


No, it's a more of me hoping thing.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 2:31 PM ET
No, it's a more of me hoping thing.
- Glak18


They ended up protecting him, so think you might have to pin your hopes on somebody else.


corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Twarynski, Trade Freeze Ends, Entry Draft, Alumni
- bmeltzer



chuckles gonna upchuck
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
They ended up protecting him, so think you might have to pin your hopes on somebody else.



- Tomahawk


They didn't want to lose him for nothing, but also had to lose some salary. I'm sure they didn't want to lose Gourde, but Francis wasn't going to take Johnson.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Coyotes will consider not trolling the Flyers from their official social media channels.
- Tomahawk

Woah now. Let's not go crazy here. Why would they ever agree to that!?!
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
Really like the Ghost trade. Don't mind spending a 2nd & 7th for $4.5M of cap space over the next 2 years. If spent correctly, that can be a contributing piece this season. Or just bank it to have some cap wiggle room down the line after resigning Hart & Sanhiem and a backup.

Devs talking to Blues about Tarasenko. Actually makes a lot of sense. Well, a lot more sense to than the Blues taking back Jake's contract...

Goodrow to the Rangers. Not gonna like playing against him for the next 6 years.
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