Instead of losing 1 asset....they essentially moved out two assets to pick up one assets (which on its own is a good trade) then Seattle takes the asset they brought in.
So 3 assets were lost as result of the Seattle expansion instead of one. But I get it, we dont lose a roster player from last seasons awesome playoff team.
- Fakepartofme

OMFG no.

You have two apples.

You trade the two apples for a Banana.

The (frank)ing lochness monster or some sh!t steals your banana.


You can argue you lost a banana.

You can argue you lost two apples.

You would have to be a complete (frank)ing moron to argue you lost two apples and a banana.

Wait and see. Larsson has been a major disappointment since drafted. Looks like Kraken building based on defense first. They may well pick Dermott ahead of McCann. Wonder what the price is for Dahlin?
- winsix

For a #4 drafted - yes.
I'd say most teams needs a stay at home D 2nd pairing guy at 4x4 though.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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8m
Good work @Frank_seravalli
. Larsson has signed a 4 year deal with the Kraken. $4 mil aav.

Mother(frank)er
- Leafs43

How can Seattle sign FA's right now...or did edmonton trade his rights?

I'm still waiting for defenseman Dennis Cholowski's potential. He was drafted in 2016.
- gergeswillems

Scored the same number of points as Juolevi in less games played.

I wonder how many takes before that dude slips a fish.

I mean... That can't be easy... Slippery ass 20 pound fish coming at you from 20 feet away. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

He does that all day long as thats part of theri schtick, I dont think he drops too many fishes honestly.

How can Seattle sign FA's right now...or did edmonton trade his rights?
- Fakepartofme

He was left unprotected.

Becuase they signed him, he is their pick from Edmonton.

How can Seattle sign FA's right now...or did edmonton trade his rights?
- Fakepartofme

They have an exclusive 10 day window before anyone else.

I think of it as this:

You have an orange that you paid $1 for.

You owe me an orange.

So you go to the store and buy an orange for 50 cents and give me that orange.

What are you out? Are you out an orange and 50 cents?

No, you're just out the 50 cents, and you still have the $1 orange.
- Monkeypunk

I am of the persuasion that if the 50 cent orange was somehow better, younger and cost less on the cap than the 1$ orange... I'm keeping that 50 cent orange and what I paid for it is irrelevant. It's my orange now.

Scored the same number of points as Juolevi in less games played.
- winsix

Yep. I'm thinking this will be the year.

I think of it as this:

You have an orange that you paid $1 for.

You owe me an orange.

So you go to the store and buy an orange for 50 cents and give me that orange.

What are you out? Are you out an orange and 50 cents?

No, you're just out the 50 cents, and you still have the $1 orange.
- Monkeypunk

This analogy works if you also don't even bother to value the orange in the first place (because I don't want this analogy to get muddied by, "But what if they pick McCann?") - you're out whatever you paid to get the replacement orange, but you still have an orange; all you've lost is the expense invested in the replacement orange.

He does that all day long as thats part of theri schtick, I dont think he drops too many fishes honestly.
- Archaic

Impressive.

Dude must use more rosin then Garrett Cole.

How can Seattle sign FA's right now...or did edmonton trade his rights?
- Fakepartofme

Good point, sounds like bs.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Early word is #SeaKraken are closing in on contracts with two UFA defensemen: Adam Larsson (EDM) and Jamie Oleksiak (DAL).

Good point, sounds like bs.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Early word is #SeaKraken are closing in on contracts with two UFA defensemen: Adam Larsson (EDM) and Jamie Oleksiak (DAL).
- winsix

I think I found my new 2nd favourite team

Now trade for Seth Jones👍

Instead of losing 1 asset....they essentially moved out two assets to pick up one assets (which on its own is a good trade) then Seattle takes the asset they brought in.
So 3 assets were lost as result of the Seattle expansion instead of one. But I get it, we dont lose a roster player from last seasons awesome playoff team.
- Fakepartofme

why are so many struggling with this.
its 2 assets. Hallander and 7th

rest is a wash

This analogy works if you also don't even bother to value the orange in the first place (because I don't want this analogy to get muddied by, "But what if they pick McCann?") - you're out whatever you paid to get the replacement orange, but you still have an orange; all you've lost is the expense invested in the replacement orange.
- Monkeypunk

I still think it's nothing but a validation exercise to minimize the loss should they lose McCann.

What you had to protect going into expansion was essentially a choice between McCann, Kerfoot, and Holl.

It's not like if they lost Kerfoot everyone would be going perfect they lost Kadri for free in expansion. If it was Andersen we wouldn't be talking Kessel, if it was Muzzin we wouldn't be talking pick and prospects.

How we got there is moot, unless you're trying to downplay the loss.

How can Seattle sign FA's right now...or did edmonton trade his rights?
- Fakepartofme

They had a two day window to negotiate with any UFA's left unprotected. Should they have signed any of them during that window they can use that player as their selection.

Which was always a hair sticky to me. What's to stop them from basically pre negotiating a deal, selecting another player, and signing the player they negotiated with on the first day of UFA. As if an expansion team doesn't have enough advantages these days. 🤦🏻‍♂️

If they wanted first dibs to negotiate they should have had to burn a selection to get it.

OMFG no.

You have two apples.

You trade the two apples for a Banana.

The (frank)ing lochness monster or some sh!t steals your banana.


You can argue you lost a banana.

You can argue you lost two apples.

You would have to be a complete (frank)ing moron to argue you lost two apples and a banana.
- Leafs43

Again, your examples you provide dont work with the reality.

Situation is you know Nessy is going to take a specific banana, so you trade two apples for another banana....a possibly more enticing banana.
More than likely Nessy, we'll take that more enticing banana that just cost you two apples.
So you made a nice trade to keep kerfoot....to keep the roster the same.

But we'll see in a few hours.

Good point, sounds like bs.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Early word is #SeaKraken are closing in on contracts with two UFA defensemen: Adam Larsson (EDM) and Jamie Oleksiak (DAL).
- winsix

Apparently they signed Larsson for 4 * 4. I watched a lot of Edmonton over the past few years. I saw nothing in Larsson's game that makes him worth $4m other than being right handed, and a decent skater. I had seriously assumed he was due for a pay cut.

Again, your examples you provide dont work with the reality.

Situation is you know Nessy is going to take a specific banana, so you trade two apples for another banana....a possibly more enticing banana.
More than likely Nessy, we'll take that more enticing banana that just cost you two apples.
So you made a nice trade to keep kerfoot....to keep the roster the same.

But we'll see in a few hours.
- Fakepartofme

right, they gave up Hallander and a 7th to keep it as is.

2 assets.

Again, your examples you provide dont work with the reality.

Situation is you know Nessy is going to take a specific banana, so you trade two apples for another banana....a possibly more enticing banana.
More than likely Nessy, we'll take that more enticing banana that just cost you two apples.
So you made a nice trade to keep kerfoot....to keep the roster the same.

But we'll see in a few hours.
- Fakepartofme

Exactly. Hallander and the 7th didn't require protecting. That much was a voluntary sacrifice.

Whether it was worthwhile or not is an entirely different debate. I think it was if they keep McCann. It's a waste just to keep Kerfoot, but that's just my opinion.

Good opportunistic trade, (frank)ed up on the protection list. 🤷🏻‍♂️

They had a two day window to negotiate with any UFA's left unprotected. Should they have signed any of them during that window they can use that player as their selection.

Which was always a hair sticky to me. What's to stop them from basically pre negotiating a deal, selecting another player, and signing the player they negotiated with on the first day of UFA. As if an expansion team doesn't have enough advantages these days. 🤦🏻‍♂️

If they wanted first dibs to negotiate they should have had to burn a selection to get it.
- joel878

Holy fack that is BS.
Toronto should get an expansion team, fack this leafs team....the city has better odds of success going the expansion route

Holy fack that is BS.
Toronto should get an expansion team, fack this leafs team....the city has better odds of success going the expansion route
- Fakepartofme

Yeah that 650 million gets you a pretty stacked deck. Guaranteed MLSE would dump at least a billion at this point for those kind of perks. 🤣

CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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20m
Expansion Draft Calendar for today:

10:00am ET:
- Kraken to submit their Expansion Draft Selection List

10:01am ET:
- Kraken to submit their signed SPC's for all RFA/UFA players selected

8:00pm ET:
- Kraken selections revealed

#SeaKraken

https://capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle

Exactly. Hallander and the 7th didn't require protecting. That much was a voluntary sacrifice.

Whether it was worthwhile or not is an entirely different debate. I think it was if they keep McCann. It's a waste just to keep Kerfoot, but that's just my opinion.

Good opportunistic trade, (frank)ed up on the protection list. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

If they keep McCann...it was for sure. Nice plan.
If they lose McCann.....not worth it at all. They had an opportunity to free up some cap space and missed

I think you’re all assuming ‘ol Nessy likes bananas in the first place.

Mornin’ everyone