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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
McCann would be a better fit at 3C then Kerfoot is..

Dubas failed.

- PatC80


Which is unfortunate cause now simpletons like max have some ammo to load into the cannon and we get to hear about it all summer long.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
Honestly all the leaks really ruined the expansion draft. Was looking forward to following it now it's just a big letdown
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
Forget the 7-3 and 4-4 decision.

You have 3 assets involved in this.

Hallinder, Kerfoot, Mccann

Rank in order which you'd rather have today.

- Santo_44


1- McCann better option at 3C
2- Hallander decent prospect
3- Kerfoot 3.5M cap hit would have been nice to move out
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Forget the 7-3 and 4-4 decision.

You have 3 assets involved in this.

Hallinder, Kerfoot, Mccann

Rank in order which you'd rather have today.

- Santo_44


McCann, Kerfoot, Hallander.

Why forget the 7-3-1 aspect, it's kind of the entire point? Easy to prove whatever you want if you're creating your own filters.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Honestly all the leaks really ruined the expansion draft. Was looking forward to following it now it's just a big letdown
- Archaic

It was an expansion draft show...was it really going to be exciting?...for non Kraken fans?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
1- McCann better option at 3C
2- Hallander decent prospect
3- Kerfoot 3.5M cap hit would have been nice to move out

- PatC80


You seriously believe Kerfoot couldn't get more than (frank)ing Halinder?

I think Dubas knows the market and if Kerfoot was that invaluable none of this would be happening.

Wait and see what Dubas does with Kerfoot.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
It was an expansion...was it really going to be exciting?...for non Kraken fans?
- Fakepartofme

Not exciting maybe, but at least interesting
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
McCann, Kerfoot, Hallander.

Why forget the 7-3-1 aspect, it's kind of the entire point? Easy to prove whatever you want if you're creating your own filters.

- joel878



They should have gone 7-3-1.. Holl better have a great season or it will look worse on Kyle Dubas
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jul 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
I am surprised that's for sure.

But I am shocked of a lot of these moves right now. Seattle is looking pretty garbage.

- Santo_44

That’s what most of us said about Vegas after their draft. Then we called their first season success a fluke and they would miss the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

Hockey fans don’t have a clue. But don’t try to tell them that.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
You seriously believe Kerfoot couldn't get more than (frank)ing Halinder?

I think Dubas knows the market and if Kerfoot was that invaluable none of this would be happening.

Wait and see what Dubas does with Kerfoot.

- Santo_44


maybe? Maybe not?

We don't know. So, don't pretend like you do
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
Grab any cheap player you want and fling him up on line 1...they should be fine if the can skate and have a little weight for the board game.
- Garnie

A little weight, he'll need enough for himself and Marner combined.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
1- McCann better option at 3C
2- Hallander decent prospect
3- Kerfoot 3.5M cap hit would have been nice to move out

- PatC80

Agreed.
Although, Hallander only became a decent prospect once he was traded to the leafs, once he was traded away, he became a nothing prospect.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
They should have gone 7-3-1.. Holl better have a great season or it will look worse on Kyle Dubas
- PatC80


I genuinely do not understand what Dubas has been doing of late. There have been some pretty wasteful decisions made over the past year or so and a lot of them are going against what the numbers suggest. Not a big fan.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
McCann, Kerfoot, Hallander.

Why forget the 7-3-1 aspect, it's kind of the entire point? Easy to prove whatever you want if you're creating your own filters.

- joel878


Because 4-4-1 is the reality.

I think there is a strong argument 7-3-1 could have been better. For me I like Holl so I don't mind this.

We aren't going too agree on that so I am forgetting that part.

Seems to me we have middle ground here. Dubas kept Kerfoot and lost Hallander in the expansion draft. You are happier today with losing Hallender over Kerfoot.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
They should have gone 7-3-1.. Holl better have a great season or it will look worse on Kyle Dubas
- PatC80

Dubas cant move on from his guys.
Its what will potentially sink the ship and him
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Forget the 7-3 and 4-4 decision.

You have 3 assets involved in this.

Hallinder, Kerfoot, Mccann

Rank in order which you'd rather have today.

Here is mine

Mccann
Kerfoot
Hallinder

Dubas can change that based in the Kerfoot return.

- Santo_44


The relevant order is

Holl @ $2M
McCann @$2.6
Kerfoot @ $3.5M

Hallander




7th
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
That’s what most of us said about Vegas after their draft. Then we called their first season success a fluke and they would miss the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

Hockey fans don’t have a clue. But don’t try to tell them that.

- shack67


I definitely didn't say Vegas would be garbage, but I didn't think they were going to the finals.

My memory doesn't recall Vegas passing on any Carey Price or Tarasenko calibre players. Am I wrong there?

I felt like Seattle was (frank)ing this all up the second I read their pricetag to avoid any player was a 1st and 3rd across the board. If that's accurate it's completely neutering their own potential before they even start work. Asinine.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
I genuinely do not understand what Dubas has been doing of late. There have been some pretty wasteful decisions made over the past year or so and a lot of them are going against what the numbers suggest. Not a big fan.
- BINGO!

Bingo.
yes that's you, but you are also correct.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Agreed.
Although, Hallander only became a decent prospect once he was traded to the leafs, once he was traded away, he became a nothing prospect.

- Fakepartofme

This is false.

I know you have this obsessive hate for Leaf fans but no one has been obsessing over Hallender and no one has been calling him a nothing prospect.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Grab any cheap player you want and fling him up on line 1...they should be fine if the can skate and have a little weight for the board game.
- Garnie

He should also be 11 feet tall so he can accept those passes over the boards.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Because 4-4-1 is the reality.

I think there is a strong argument 7-3-1 could have been better. For me I like Holl so I don't mind this.

We aren't going too agree on that so I am forgetting that part.

Seems to me we have middle ground here. Dubas kept Kerfoot and lost Hallander in the expansion draft. You are happier today with losing Hallender over Kerfoot.

- Santo_44


Not entirely. I would have preferred we work with #1, still have #2 to trade for assets at the expense of #3.

To each their own.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
The relevant order is

Holl @ $2M
McCann @$2.6
Kerfoot @ $3.5M

Hallander




7th

- Canada Cup


I agree with you. Mccann would have been my pick.

I am happy we have both Holl and Kerfoot today.

I don't want to see Kerfoot a Leaf next season though, I fully expect him to be traded.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
89 emails so far this morning.

Gawd, I miss the fax machine.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
This is false.

I know you have this obsessive hate for Leaf fans but no one has been obsessing over Hallender and no one has been calling him a nothing prospect.

- Santo_44

You really know nothing of the sort....or almost in general.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Not entirely. I would have preferred we work with #1, still have #2 to trade for assets at the expense of #3.

To each their own.

- joel878


Okay well I am happy we have Holl and Kerfoot.

And I think Leaf fans will be pleasantly surprised with Kerfoot value just like fans were happy with Kapanens return.
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