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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
It's my impression that he's a decent 2-way player, too.
- JohnScammo

And he'll have a scrap once in a while too.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
And he'll have a scrap once in a while too.
- Isleshockeyman

That ability could become important to the Isles when Seattle selects Ross Johnston.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
That ability could become important to the Isles when Seattle selects Ross Johnston.
- JohnScammo

Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jul 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
I would take Bailey. Decent top 6 guy to provide a couple years of stability while the roster around him likely gets turned over.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:57 PM ET
Whatever happened to Tanner? Did he just flame out? I didn't see his name as a blogger. I know it's been a while since I've been on.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
Whatever happened to Tanner? Did he just flame out? I didn't see his name as a blogger. I know it's been a while since I've been on.
- Isleshockeyman

I believe he was consumed by his own ego.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
I would take Bailey. Decent top 6 guy to provide a couple years of stability while the roster around him likely gets turned over.
- Kooleus

You say that, but you don't know what offers are being made by Lou to keep people. I think it was chief earlier who pondered the thought of sending Bellows to the Kraken for them to take Eberle and not Bailey.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
I believe he was consumed by his own ego.
- JohnScammo

That checks. I don't know who's ego was worse, his or Snowballs.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Whatever happened to Tanner? Did he just flame out? I didn't see his name as a blogger. I know it's been a while since I've been on.
- Isleshockeyman

I forget what he said, but he had some offensive comments and Ek "fired" him

He's on Twitter and just as (frank)ing dumb as ever

https://twitter.com/EditorinLeaf
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
I'd love for the isles to land him he was on pace both shortened seasons for 30 plus goals
- Upstate_isles

I would love to have the guy but he’s not worth what he’s reportedly looking for imo.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
You love and trust Lou but you want him to trade two top six forwards for nothing that HE SIGNED to deals you obviously view as bad deals just two short years ago?

Smart

- BringNYIhome

If you can improve on two players without giving up any assets you wouldn’t do it?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
Tomorrow should be interesting gents.. As will the days following it.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 4:16 PM ET
You say that, but you don't know what offers are being made by Lou to keep people. I think it was chief earlier who pondered the thought of sending Bellows to the Kraken for them to take Eberle and not Bailey.
- Isleshockeyman


if they were so worried about Bailey getting taken I don't understand why they left him unprotected. I think all the noise is just that... Lou and crew have to make believe they are trying to keep Bailey but are more than comfortable losing him.. IMO.
HolyDiver83
New York Islanders
Location: UBS Arena, NY
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
You love and trust Lou but you want him to trade two top six forwards for nothing that HE SIGNED to deals you obviously view as bad deals just two short years ago?

Smart

- BringNYIhome


Those two "Top 6" forwards were fair price pre covid cap, not anymore. Smarter!

Now run along, I heard the toaster ding, your hot pockets are ready!
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:19 PM ET
I forget what he said, but he had some offensive comments and Ek "fired" him

He's on Twitter and just as (frank)ing dumb as ever

https://twitter.com/EditorinLeaf

- eichiefs9


Oh God, yes he is. I have no idea how he thinks the Leafs don't/won't have cap issues. They have ~$39m tied up in 4 players and 9 guys that are UFA's with 11 forwards, 6 D-men and 1 goalie under contract with $6.4m in cap space.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
if they were so worried about Bailey getting taken I don't understand why they left him unprotected. I think all the noise is just that... Lou and crew have to make believe they are trying to keep Bailey but are more than comfortable losing him.. IMO.
- niteislander

For reasons unknown to us. The GM's make deals that "protect" players left unprotected so other players can be protected. That's why we see these deals after the fact. My guess is that Lou already has a deal in place with Francis. As with other GM's I'm sure. It's all in the gamesmanship of the expansion draft.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Jul 20 @ 7:09 PM ET
Those two "Top 6" forwards were fair price pre covid cap, not anymore. Smarter!

Now run along, I heard the toaster ding, your hot pockets are ready!

- HolyDiver83


I like how you defend your stupidity. The salary cap hasn’t gone down. Either they’re bad contracts and Lou looks bad or they’re great contracts and Lou is your hero. Cool hot pockets comment tho. Makes total sense
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Jul 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
If you can improve on two players without giving up any assets you wouldn’t do it?
- Cptmjl


Well yeah but what’s the plan? If he uses the cap space and improves the roster than it’s a positive, but if you can get a 2nd round pick for Nick Leddy, you can certainly get a 2nd or a 3rd for Ebs and Bails. Why expose them and protect guys like Cal and Martin who Seattle would be doing us a favor by taking. It’s nonsense. And an admission of guilt that you gave out two bad contracts
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 7:15 PM ET
And he'll have a scrap once in a while too.
- Isleshockeyman

Yea he beat the cock out of someone this year
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 7:16 PM ET
I forget what he said, but he had some offensive comments and Ek "fired" him

He's on Twitter and just as (frank)ing dumb as ever

https://twitter.com/EditorinLeaf

- eichiefs9

His political opinions got him canned but yes he's still an bumhole on twitter
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
I would love to have the guy but he’s not worth what he’s reportedly looking for imo.
- Cptmjl

I'd prefer tarasenko if he's really healthy as we can use a bona-fide sniper and wally is up and coming too
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 7:26 PM ET
Well yeah but what’s the plan? If he uses the cap space and improves the roster than it’s a positive, but if you can get a 2nd round pick for Nick Leddy, you can certainly get a 2nd or a 3rd for Ebs and Bails. Why expose them and protect guys like Cal and Martin who Seattle would be doing us a favor by taking. It’s nonsense. And an admission of guilt that you gave out two bad contracts
- BringNYIhome

Well I don’t know but I believe there is one. Let’s see what happens before we start exclaiming how bad of a job he has done. Cal and Martin don’t have the salary necessary to be impactful on signing any new players besides low impact ones. I’ll also add that trotz and lameriello value both players so why would they dump them? I figured Lameriello signing Martin this past offseason would be the giveaway on that little nugget.
Also, how many contracts are considered “good” over the life of the contract? Not a whole helluva lot. I’ll also add that Bailey and eberle’s contracts really aren’t so terrible relative to their regular season and post season production imo. None of this is nonsense as you say. We have to shed some salary. Welcome to being a fan of a competitive NHL team in the salary cap era.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 7:30 PM ET
I'd prefer tarasenko if he's really healthy as we can use a bona-fide sniper and wally is up and coming too
- Upstate_isles

I would actually prefer Landeskog but he’s not an 8-10 million per player at the age of 30. I would take a chance on tarasenko. I believe we wouldn’t do it unless Lou was 100% sure he was good to go.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jul 20 @ 7:30 PM ET
I'd prefer tarasenko if he's really healthy as we can use a bona-fide sniper and wally is up and coming too
- Upstate_isles

I hear ya. But if they were concerned about Wahlstrom’s defensive play not sure how they’d feel about Tarasenko. Not that familiar with his game but I’d bet he’s not too defensively responsible.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 7:34 PM ET
I hear ya. But if they were concerned about Wahlstrom’s defensive play not sure how they’d feel about Tarasenko. Not that familiar with his game but I’d bet he’s not too defensively responsible.
- TogaIsles

St. Louis won a Cup with him, so presumably he's not terrible. But I admit I don't see many St. Louis games.
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