Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Vegas only looks like geniuses because Tuch, Karlsson, Theodore, March and Reilly worked out
At the time it seemed like Reilly was overpaid and that's why they got March
They got Tuch instead of Dumba, both good players
Karlsson instead of Atkinson
Theodore was the real steal
They pissed away all the 1st round picks
Vegas is good because of all the moves they made AFTER the draft in subsequent years. Stone, Patches, Pietrangelo. Overall their asset management has been pretty terrible IMO
Tatar trade, Suzuki instead of Glass for Patches, or just keep both and sign Patches as a FA, same argument for Stone - TheGame316
I don't think they pissed away the picks because of what you said. The moves after the draft (including trading said picks) made them good.
Someone else said it too so I'm just going to echo that.
Also, not only did those players play well they also got assets to take them instead of other guys! Which led to being able to make those trades. |
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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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Damn rights it is I'm going to spend that 100USD on a PK Subban game worn jock strap complete with crabs. - Reveen
If it still smells of Lindsay Vonn vag it’ll cost you more than $100. |
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Falon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.12.2005
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Forwards
Johansen, Ryan
Tarasenko, Vladimir
Eberle, Jordan
Drouin, Jonathan
Domi, Max
Donskoi, Joonas
Johnsson, Andreas
Gambrell, Dylan
Fischer, Christian
Appleton, Mason
Gauthier, Julien
Rubtsov, German
Ritchie, Nick
Benson, Tyler
Abramov, Vitaly
Athanasiou, Andreas
Gaudette, Adam
Lind, Kole
Defense
Pettersson, Marcus
Shattenkirk, Kevin
Miller, Colin
Nutivaara, Markus
Dermott, Travis
Bean, Jake
Cholowski, Dennis
Foote, Cal
Kylington, Oliver
Goaltender
Bishop, Ben
Kähkönen, Kaapo
Vanecek, Vitek
Total Cap Hit: roughly 66 million |
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Reveen
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC Joined: 05.25.2011
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If it still smells of Lindsay Vonn vag it’ll cost you more than $100. - TurdFergeson
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Sean Maloughney: CONTEST! GUESS THE EXPANSION DRAFT + Mock Draft 4.0 - Going Cheap/Trades - Sean Maloughney
Here's my way way way out there picks. cap be damned
ANAHEIM DUCKS Adam Henrique (F)
ARIZONA COYOTES Christian Fischer (F)
BOSTON BRUINS Jeremy Lauzon (D)
BUFFALO SABRES Jake McCabe (D)
CALGARY FLAMES Mark Giordano (D)
CAROLINA HURRICANES Jake Bean (D)
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS Collin Delia (G)
COLORADO AVALANCHE Joonas Donskoi (F)
COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS Max Domi (F)
DALLAS STARS Jamie Oleksiak (D)
DETROIT RED WINGS Frans Nielsen (F)
EDMONTON OILERS Dominik Kahun (F)
FLORIDA PANTHERS Chris Driedger (G)
LOS ANGELES KINGS Andreas Athanasiou (F)
MINNESOTA WILD Nick Bonino (F)
MONTREAL CANADIENS Carey Price (G)
NASHVILLE PREDATORS Ryan Johansen (F)
NEW JERSEY DEVILS Ryan Murray (D)
NEW YORK ISLANDERS Jordan Eberle (F)
NEW YORK RANGERS Darren Raddysh (D)
OTTAWA SENATORS Chris Tierney (F)
PHILADELPHIA FLYERS James van Riemsdyk (F)
PITTSBURGH PENGUINS Jason Zucker (F)
SAN JOSE SHARKS Marcus Sorensen (F)
ST. LOUIS BLUES Vince Dunn (D)
TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING Yanni Gourde (F)
TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS Travis Dermott (D)
VANCOUVER CANUCKS Zack MacEwen (F)
WASHINGTON CAPITALS Vitek Vanecek (G)
WINNIPEG JETS Dylan DeMelo (D) |
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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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Here's my way way way out there picks. cap be damned
ANAHEIM DUCKS Adam Henrique (F)
ARIZONA COYOTES Christian Fischer (F)
BOSTON BRUINS Jeremy Lauzon (D)
BUFFALO SABRES Jake McCabe (D)
CALGARY FLAMES Mark Giordano (D)
CAROLINA HURRICANES Jake Bean (D)
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS Collin Delia (G)
COLORADO AVALANCHE Joonas Donskoi (F)
COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS Max Domi (F)
DALLAS STARS Jamie Oleksiak (D)
DETROIT RED WINGS Frans Nielsen (F)
EDMONTON OILERS Dominik Kahun (F)
FLORIDA PANTHERS Chris Driedger (G)
LOS ANGELES KINGS Andreas Athanasiou (F)
MINNESOTA WILD Nick Bonino (F)
MONTREAL CANADIENS Carey Price (G)
NASHVILLE PREDATORS Ryan Johansen (F)
NEW JERSEY DEVILS Ryan Murray (D)
NEW YORK ISLANDERS Jordan Eberle (F)
NEW YORK RANGERS Darren Raddysh (D)
OTTAWA SENATORS Chris Tierney (F)
PHILADELPHIA FLYERS James van Riemsdyk (F)
PITTSBURGH PENGUINS Jason Zucker (F)
SAN JOSE SHARKS Marcus Sorensen (F)
ST. LOUIS BLUES Vince Dunn (D)
TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING Yanni Gourde (F)
TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS Travis Dermott (D)
VANCOUVER CANUCKS Zack MacEwen (F)
WASHINGTON CAPITALS Vitek Vanecek (G)
WINNIPEG JETS Dylan DeMelo (D) - dmnted
What sweeteners are Detroit, Nashville and Montreal throwing in to get Seattle to take those putrid players/contracts ?? |
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Your logic is a little flawed there because in order to get the players that made them good (Pacioretty and Stone) they traded away those first round picks. Didn't really piss them away. - Sean Maloughney
A 1st a 2nd and a 3rd for Tatar, then they never played him
Tatar, Suzuki (1st) and a 2nd for Patches, who they probably could have got in Free Agency
Cody Glass (1st) = Bust
Brannstrom (1st) and a 2nd for Stone, who they also could have got in Free Agency
That's 4 1sts (and 3 2nds) spent with really nothing they couldn't have otherwise had for free |
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PogBoi
Season Ticket Holder Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Barrie, ON Joined: 08.27.2020
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Do we get anything for being 100% wrong???
Forwards:
Tarasenko, Vladimir
Zucker, Jason
Gourde, Yanni
Donskoi, Joonas
Dadonov, Evgeny
McCann, Jared
Virtanen, Jake
Girgensons, Zemgus
Namestnikov, Vladislav
Pitlick, Tyler
Pánik, Richard
Wagner, Chris
Stenlund, Kevin
Appleton, Mason
Blackwell, Colin
Leivo, Josh
Athanasiou, Andreas
Defense:
Gostisbehere, Shayne
Klefbom, Oscar
Butcher, Will
Jensen, Nick
Simek, Radim
Fleury, Haydn
Benning, Matthew
Vatanen, Sami
Bean, Jake
Goalies:
Price, Carey
Subban, Malcolm
Kähkönen, Kaapo
Driedger, Chris |
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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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Do we get anything for being 100% wrong???
Tarasenko, Vladimir
Zucker, Jason
Gourde, Yanni
Donskoi, Joonas
Dadonov, Evgeny
McCann, Jared
Virtanen, Jake
Girgensons, Zemgus
Namestnikov, Vladislav
Pitlick, Tyler
Pánik, Richard
Wagner, Chris
Stenlund, Kevin
Appleton, Mason
Blackwell, Colin
Leivo, Josh
Athanasiou, Andreas
Gostisbehere, Shayne
Klefbom, Oscar
Butcher, Will
Jensen, Nick
Simek, Radim
Fleury, Haydn
Benning, Matthew
Vatanen, Sami
Bean, Jake
Price, Carey
Subban, Malcolm
Kähkönen, Kaapo
Driedger, Chris - PogBoi
Well I think you have 7 correct…so no.
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Tarasenko
Eberle
Domi
Gourde
Dadonov
Simmonds
Sissons
Gambrell
Appleton
Geekie
Frk
Aston-Reese
Danault
Merkley
Bunting
Landeskog
Morin
Giordano
DeAngelo
Klefbom
Miller
Soucy
Fleury (Haydn)
Lauzon
Bowey
Oleksiak
Cholowski
Delia
Vanecek
Driedger |
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A 1st a 2nd and a 3rd for Tatar, then they never played him
Tatar, Suzuki (1st) and a 2nd for Patches, who they probably could have got in Free Agency
Cody Glass (1st) = Bust
Brannstrom (1st) and a 2nd for Stone, who they also could have got in Free Agency
That's 4 1sts (and 3 2nds) spent with really nothing they couldn't have otherwise had for free - TheGame316
Your argument has a major flaw in that it hinges on the players reaching UFA and Vegas being able to out-compete other teams for those guys in UFA. For example, Stone re-signed immediately after he was traded; who's to say he doesn't do that with any other team that acquires him? And then Vegas would've lost out on a top-10 forward in the league. |
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Your argument has a major flaw in that it hinges on the players reaching UFA and Vegas being able to out-compete other teams for those guys in UFA. For example, Stone re-signed immediately after he was traded; who's to say he doesn't do that with any other team that acquires him? And then Vegas would've lost out on a top-10 forward in the league. - MaximumBone
Then maybe the cap dollars used to sign Stone and Patches are used on other players. Vegas doesn't seem to have a problem attracting talent
4 1st round picks in their bottom 6 on ELC's might even manage to score a few goals, something in short supply the last 2 playoff runs
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EdmHockeyMan
Referee |
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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COL - Landy
Nashville - Johansen
NYI - Eberle
CAR - N. Neiderreider
TOR - McCann
CHI - Hinostroza
PIT - Zucker
CBJ - Domi
NYR - J.Gauthier
MON - Drouin
CGY - Phillips
VAN - K. Lind
BUF - Eakin
STL - Dunn
EDM - Larsson
NJD - Butcher
WPG - Demelo
ANA - H.Fleury
TBL - Foote
BOS - Zboril
FLA - Dreiger
DAL - Bishop
MIN - Kahkonen
WAS - Vanacek
OTT - Abramov
LAK - Lizotte
PHI - Rubtsov
SJS - Gambrell
DET - Chowlowski
ARI - Saarijarvi |
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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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COL - Landy
Nashville - Johansen
NYI - Eberle
CAR - N. Neiderreider
TOR - McCann
CHI - Hinostroza
PIT - Zucker
CBJ - Domi
NYR - J.Gauthier
MON - Drouin
CGY - Phillips
VAN - K. Lind
BUF - Eakin
STL - Dunn
EDM - Larsson
NJD - Butcher
WPG - Demelo
ANA - H.Fleury
TBL - Foote
BOS - Zboril
FLA - Dreiger
DAL - Bishop
MIN - Kahkonen
WAS - Vanacek
OTT - Abramov
LAK - Lizotte
PHI - Rubtsov
SJS - Gambrell
DET - Chowlowski
ARI - Saarijarvi - EdmHockeyMan
Cheater.
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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ANA - Henrique > hinges on NSH selection. If they take Duch/Johan this is Shattenkirk
ARI - Bunting
BOS - Clifton
BUF - Miller
CGY - Giordano
CAR - Bean
CHI - Zadorov
COL - Donskoi
CBJ - Carlsson
DAL - Mascherin
DET - Stretcher
EDM - Larsson
FLA - Driedger
LAK - Athanasiou
MIN - Kahkonen
MTL - Danault
NSH - Kunin > Could see Nashville pay to have them select Duchene/Johanssen.
NJD - Bastian
NYI - Eberle
NYR - Gauthier
OTT - Tierney
PHI - Gostisbehere
PIT - Tanev
SJS - Gabriel
STL - Tarasenko
TBL - Foote
TOR - McCann
VAN - Lind
WSH - Vanacek
WPG - DeMelo
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EdmHockeyMan
Referee |
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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Cheater. - TurdFergeson
Shhhhhh, don't tell. 😁 |
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calilac
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: london, ON Joined: 03.03.2011
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ANA - Henrique C
ARI - Fischer LW/RW
BOS - Lauzon LD
BUF - Borgen RD
CAL - Giordano LD
CAR - Bean LD
CHI - Gaudette C
COL - Donskoi RW
CBJ - Stenlund RW/C
DAL - Oleksiak LD
DET - Cholowski LD
EDM - Larsson RD
FLA - Driedger G
LAK - Luff RW
MIN - Kahkonen G
MON - Fleury RD
NAS - Jarnkrok LW/C/RW
NJD - Bastian C/RW
NYI - Bailey LW/RW
NYR - Gauthier RW
OTT - Abramov LW
PHI - Rubtsov C
PIT - Aston-Reese LW/RW
SJS - Donato LW/C
STL - Dunn LD/RD
TBL - Gourde LW/C/RW
TOR - McCann LW/C
VAN - Gadjovich LW
WAS - Vanecek G
WIN - Appleton C/RW
Lineup:
Bailey - Gourde - Donskoi
McCann - Henrique - Appleton
Donato - Jarnkrok - Fischer
Gauthier - Stenlund - Aston-Reese
Extras:
Luff, Rubtsov, Bastion
Giordano - Larsson
Lauzon - Dunn
Oleksiak - Fleury
Extras:
Borgen, Bean, Cholowski
Driedger
Vanecek
Kahkonen
I also believe they will sign 2 big fish UFA's this year to supplement the FWD's. (mabye Coleman, and Landeskog)
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CGY - Mark Giordano
TOR - Jared McCann
PIT - Brandon Tanev
PHI - Carsen Twarynski
STL - Vince Dunn
FLO - Chris Driedger
WSH - Vitek Vanecek
OTT - Joey Daccord
VAN - Kole Lind
WPG - Mason Appleton
MTL - Cale Fleury
NSH - Calle Jarnkrok
CAR - Morgan Geekie
MIN - Carson Soucy
BOS - Jérémy Lauzon
NJ - Nathan Bastian
LA - Kurtis MacDermid
SJ - Alexander True
COL - Joonas Donskoi
CLB - Gavin Bayreuther
TB - Yanni Gourde
EDM - Adam Larsson
DAL - Jamie Oleksiak
ANA - Haydn Fleury
NYI - Jordan Eberle
BUF - Will Borgen
ARI - Tyler Pitlick
NYR - Colin Blackwell
CHI - John Quenneville
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CGY - Mark Giordano
TOR - Jared McCann
PIT - Brandon Tanev
PHI - Carsen Twarynski
STL - Vince Dunn
FLO - Chris Driedger
WSH - Vitek Vanecek
OTT - Joey Daccord
VAN - Kole Lind
WPG - Mason Appleton
MTL - Cale Fleury
NSH - Calle Jarnkrok
CAR - Morgan Geekie
MIN - Carson Soucy
BOS - Jérémy Lauzon
NJ - Nathan Bastian
LA - Kurtis MacDermid
SJ - Alexander True
COL - Joonas Donskoi
CLB - Gavin Bayreuther
TB - Yanni Gourde
EDM - Adam Larsson
DAL - Jamie Oleksiak
ANA - Haydn Fleury
NYI - Jordan Eberle
BUF - Will Borgen
ARI - Tyler Pitlick
NYR - Colin Blackwell
CHI - John Quenneville - DonCherries
Woohoo! Wonder what I will buy with the 100$ at NHL store!!!! |
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