Trading a guy to a team for them to retain money on then trade him back to the same team isn't thinking outside the box. None of this paragraph means a damn thing when the original argument is so clearly and obviously cap circumvention. Just give it up.
- burgh4life87

Yeah, he just wants rant. I'm giving up lol

Trading a guy to a team for them to retain money on then trade him back to the same team isn't thinking outside the box. None of this paragraph means a damn thing when the original argument is so clearly and obviously cap circumvention. Just give it up.
- burgh4life87

The thinking outside the box would be using Detroit as a middle man bud, but OK

Both scenarios accomplish the same thing

1 is "circumvention" per the rule book, and 1 isn't

That's my problem with it

Allow both, or None

Yeah, he just wants rant. I'm giving up lol
- Rinosaur

Yeah, he just wants rant. I'm giving up lol
- Rinosaur

You would argue that it's sunny outside if you were told that it was raining because you would refuse to look out the window

The thinking outside the box would be using Detroit as a middle man bud, but OK

Both scenarios accomplish the same thing

1 is "circumvention" per the rule book, and 1 isn't

That's my problem with it

Allow both, or None
- TheGame316

You can't do that now. They never allowed Team A to use Team B or Team C to retain cap on a player that is under contract for Team A and remains under contract for Team A when the transactions are complete.

There is no example of this occurring ever in the NHL. You have a problem with something that has never existed.

Jeff Carter Is 36 years old which makes him very expendable.
- Shady1962

Expendable...perhaps. But the guy did score 13 goals through his 20 games as a pen, so good luck replacing that for his 2.6M cap hit.

Kraken sure seem poised to draft 4+ goalies, and maybe you can swing a deal with them. That was your Achilles this past run. The final 4 clubs all had a stellar goalie that at one point in time was a 1st rd draft pick.

You can't do that now. They never allowed Team A to use Team B or Team C to retain cap on a player that is under contract for Team A and remains under contract for Team A when the transactions are complete.

There is no example of this occurring ever in the NHL. You have a problem with something that has never existed.
- burgh4life87

He has a problem with reading comprehension.

You can't do that now. They never allowed Team A to use Team B or Team C to retain cap on a player that is under contract for Team A and remains under contract for Team A when the transactions are complete.

There is no example of this occurring ever in the NHL. You have a problem with something that has never existed.
- burgh4life87

YES!

You see, they have a rule for Team A - Team B

But they have never seen an instance using a Team C, so they don't have a rule for it

And I would bet, that if they tried to make this happen, that the NHL would step in and...wait for it.... MAKE SOMETHING UP AS THEY GO... because they have a history of doing so, please note the Kovy and Luongo contract situations

And if they DIDN'T do anything and allowed it, How would it be materially different than just allowing Seattle and MTL to trade directly when it essentially accomplishes the EXACT SAME THING

YES!

You see, they have a rule for Team A - Team B

But they have never seen an instance using a Team C, so they don't have a rule for it

And I would bet, that if they tried to make this happen, that the NHL would step in and...wait for it.... MAKE SOMETHING UP AS THEY GO... because they have a history of doing so, please note the Kovy and Luongo contract situations

And if they DIDN'T do anything and allowed it, How would it be materially different than just allowing Seattle and MTL to trade directly when it essentially accomplishes the EXACT SAME THING
- TheGame316

- burgh4life87

Such a great show

Such a great show
- Rinosaur

Classic. I need the new season to drop soon.

He has a problem with reading comprehension.
- Rinosaur

You have a problem with outside the box thinking. It makes you not a great problem solver

You would read the rule book and you'd give up and say it's impossible

I'd involve another team (Detroit in my example) and if my objective as MTL was to get Price at a lower cap hit in exchange for picks/prospects, I'd succeed

If my objective as Seattle was to obtain extra picks /prospects for a few years of dead money, I'd succeed

It's because I can think outside the box, and apparently you can't

Now, I wouldn't put it past the NHL making up a rule (my original point) but you can't deny that the same goal would be accomplished that the NHL has tried to make a rule against

You are confusing the act with the net result. The act of a direct trade is against the rules, and the NHL calls it circumvention but the net result of involving a 3rd party is not. When at the end of the day, they accomplish the same thing

It should probably be one or the other

You have a problem with outside the box thinking. It makes you not a great problem solver

You would read the rule book and you'd give up and say it's impossible

I'd involve another team (Detroit in my example) and if my objective as MTL was to get Price at a lower cap hit in exchange for picks/prospects, I'd succeed

If my objective as Seattle was to obtain extra picks /prospects for a few years of dead money, I'd succeed

It's because I can think outside the box, and apparently you can't

Now, I wouldn't put it past the NHL making up a rule (my original point) but you can't deny that the same goal would be accomplished that the NHL has tried to make a rule against

You are confusing the act with the net result. The act of a direct trade is against the rules, and the NHL calls it circumvention but the net result of involving a 3rd party is not. When at the end of the day, they accomplish the same thing

It should probably be one or the other
- TheGame316

For the 10th time in this thread TL;DR

You have a problem with outside the box thinking. It makes you not a great problem solver

You would read the rule book and you'd give up and say it's impossible

I'd involve another team (Detroit in my example) and if my objective as MTL was to get Price at a lower cap hit in exchange for picks/prospects, I'd succeed

If my objective as Seattle was to obtain extra picks /prospects for a few years of dead money, I'd succeed

It's because I can think outside the box, and apparently you can't

Now, I wouldn't put it past the NHL making up a rule (my original point) but you can't deny that the same goal would be accomplished that the NHL has tried to make a rule against

You are confusing the act with the net result. The act of a direct trade is against the rules, and the NHL calls it circumvention but the net result of involving a 3rd party is not. When at the end of the day, they accomplish the same thing

It should probably be one or the other
- TheGame316

This kinda scenario doesn't require a rule. It just wouldn't happen. Teams are competing with one another not circle jerking together to help out one team in need. Even if enough ball licking went on to make this happen, im sure the nhl would say, nope. the end result is what we don't want here.

Such a great show
- Rinosaur

Hahaha it's so fn funny... Im only just catching up. Finished season 12 last night. I had up to season 10 watched like a year ago.

This kinda scenario doesn't require a rule. It just wouldn't happen. Teams are competing with one another not circle jerking together to help out one team in need. Even if enough ball licking went on to make this happen, im sure the nhl would say, nope. the end result is what we don't want here.
- Terminator7117

Well, we do see it, (Savard) albeit usually involving a team out of contention, and they do it for picks

Arizona just helped out the Isles with their cap (Ladd) in exchange for compensation, as another example

Regarding Price, Are you suggesting that the NHL would make up a rule? (Or make Sh1t up as they go) like I originally said?

I don't know how accurate this is, but it looks as though the Pens' 1st Blue sweater with white "Pittsburgh" across the chest, is going to make an appearance as a 3rd jersey this spring.... The "Reverse Retro" didn't last long

I might have to grab a Michel Briere jersey...


@GTAC13JERSEYS


Current Jersey Rumors: 👀
- Expect a New Alternate Jersey for the @NJDevils, @penguins, @NHLJets and @LAKings next season.
- There will be a new “Classics” Series in the Spring. The teams included are the @TBLightning, @SanJoseSharks, Seals, Nordiques, @penguins, and @LAKings.

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1417500548597788675

Pike Place Market in Seattle… appears Seattle is passing on Mccann 👀 maybe?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ieafsfan/status/1417500548597788675

Pike Place Market in Seattle… appears Seattle is passing on Mccann 👀 maybe?
- pens4life-66

@SeattleKracken said:

not shown: 5+ other takes the NHL filmed in preparation for tomorrow’s big event. 🙃

#keepguessing 😘

You would argue that it's sunny outside if you were told that it was raining because you would refuse to look out the window
- TheGame316

It's Sunny above the clouds, think outside the box.

Well, we do see it, (Savard) albeit usually involving a team out of contention, and they do it for picks

Arizona just helped out the Isles with their cap (Ladd) in exchange for compensation, as another example

Regarding Price, Are you suggesting that the NHL would make up a rule? (Or make Sh1t up as they go) like I originally said?
- TheGame316

No we don't see it, Savard was not on Tampa in the first place lmfao. He went from Cbus to whoever to Tampa. Just like Brassard with the Pens. Ottawa to Vegas to Pitt. You got this wrong my man. If Savard was on Tampa then to Cbus then to some other team then back to Tampa then yes that's circumventing.

@SeattleKracken said:

not shown: 5+ other takes the NHL filmed in preparation for tomorrow’s big event. 🙃

#keepguessing 😘
- Beatnic57

Yup there is 30 of them planned apparently from people in Seattle. Someone was saying there was 1 at the first Starbucks ever opened (Pike place market) this morning at 6am.

No we don't see it, Savard was not on Tampa in the first place lmfao. He went from Cbus to whoever to Tampa. Just like Brassard with the Pens. Ottawa to Vegas to Pitt. You got this wrong my man. If Savard was on Tampa then to Cbus then to some other team then back to Tampa then yes that's circumventing.
- 668710

There is literally no talking sense into him. He galaxy brained himself into believing he found a massive loophole.

There is literally no talking sense into him. He galaxy brained himself into believing he found a massive loophole.
- burgh4life87

Who came up with the galaxy brains thing lmao, gold pure gold.

Who came up with the galaxy brains thing lmao, gold pure gold.
- 668710

RW brought it up a few blogs ago. It’s a classic meme format.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/galaxy-brain