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Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
Claude Julien. I don't know if I'd question his loyalty because he fired a coach in his first season and took over the bench. Weird, no doubt...but he was supposedly unhappy with the level of preparedness of the team under Julien heading into the playoffs.
- eichiefs9



Pretty sure that was Ftorek but I could be wrong
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
He hasn't shown much loyalty to his coaches. Maybe he is more loyal to his players?
- JohnScammo

Seems to be real loyal to a lot of his former Devils players
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Pretty sure that was Ftorek but I could be wrong
- Isles

https://infoweb.newsbank..../1184A75103813398&f=basic
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Maybe he's more loyal to his players than to his coaches???
- JohnScammo

Thanks for all those Islander years when the team was garbage, all the charity work and thanks for playing well in the playoffs, but when the new, shiny, stadium opens you’ll be in Seattle. Sorry Josh.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:11 PM ET
https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=NewsBank&docref=news/1184A75103813398&f=basic
- eichiefs9


I don't get it? Your way of saying you were wrong?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:11 PM ET
Thanks for all those Islander years when the team was garbage, all the charity work and thanks for playing well in the playoffs, but when the new, shiny, stadium opens you’ll be in Seattle. Sorry Josh.
- potvin05

It's a tough business for sure. But Lou wasn't the GM during those garbage years, so that may not have the same meaning to him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
I don't get it? Your way of saying you were wrong?
- Isles

Huh? The story JS was talking about was firing a coach at the end of the season and Lou taking over the bench himself. That was Julien. Ftorek was replaced with Robinson.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
It's a tough business for sure. But Lou wasn't the GM during those garbage years, so that may not have the same meaning to him.
- JohnScammo


Losing Bailey will be tougher than Eberle but it's a business. You have to go with the players that you think can get you the Cup.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:14 PM ET
It's a tough business for sure. But Lou wasn't the GM during those garbage years, so that may not have the same meaning to him.
- JohnScammo

There's no doubt it's a distinct possibility
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
Huh? The story JS was talking about was firing a coach at the end of the season and Lou taking over the bench himself. That was Julien. Ftorek was replaced with Robinson.
- eichiefs9

You are correct. Isles did bring up another season where Lou showed no loyalty to his coach, however.
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
Huh? The story JS was talking about was firing a coach at the end of the season and Lou taking over the bench himself. That was Julien. Ftorek was replaced with Robinson.
- eichiefs9


Gotcha thought he was talking about the time Lou fired Ftorek with 8 games left in the seaon and Robinson took over and won the cup that season
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
It's a tough business for sure. But Lou wasn't the GM during those garbage years, so that may not have the same meaning to him.
- JohnScammo

I wasn’t being totally serious.

I hate to say this, and I’d rather Bailey stay (just for my daughter’s sanity, she JUST got over Lehner) but Lou personifies the whole “business is never personal” mantra. Most successful people operate that way.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 12:17 PM ET
I have no idea what the (frank) this is, but now I desperately want one…
- Wildschwein


LOL,
It’s an award and it’s also Italian.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
I wasn’t being totally serious.

I hate to say this, and I’d rather Bailey stay (just for my daughter’s sanity, she JUST got over Lehner) but Lou personifies the whole “business is never personal” mantra. Most successful people operate that way.

- potvin05

OK, gotcha. I do think Lou wants the cap space almost as much as he'd like to keep Bailey. So I don't think he's willing to give up more draft picks to keep him. Just my hunch....
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:19 PM ET
I have no idea what the (frank) this is, but now I desperately want one…
- Wildschwein


You've never seen A Christmas Story?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
You've never seen A Christmas Story?
- Isles

Is that the one where the kid gets his tongue stuck to the flagpole?
Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
Is that the one where the kid gets his tongue stuck to the flagpole?
- JohnScammo

Isles
Location: Sweet Lou NY
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 20 @ 12:27 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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Hearing the Canadiens have been actively exploring the forward market, looking to add up front. One player they’ve inquired about is Anthony Beauvillier.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
I like Eberle a lot, but he's pretty one-dimensional. Bailey can play all three forward positions well and be moved around the lineup. He can be a little "meh" during the regular season, but he's a proven playoff performer (.70ppg vs. Eberle's .58ppg). Plus the leadership aspect.

And from a logical standpoint, he's a career-Islander who's 81 games away from playing 1000 games with one team and Trotz has open spoken glowingly about him. I have such a hard time thinking that Lou, who's a pretty god damn loyal guy, is going to toss Bailey to the curb with that major milestone coming up. Also, losing Eberle saves a little more money.

- eichiefs9

Alright, fair enough.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:29 PM ET
OK, gotcha. I do think Lou wants the cap space almost as much as he'd like to keep Bailey. So I don't think he's willing to give up more draft picks to keep him. Just my hunch....
- JohnScammo

I agree
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:32 PM ET
LOL,
It’s an award and it’s also Italian.

- nyisles7


Ah.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 20 @ 12:33 PM ET
OK, gotcha. I do think Lou wants the cap space almost as much as he'd like to keep Bailey. So I don't think he's willing to give up more draft picks to keep him. Just my hunch....
- JohnScammo


He could have protected Bailey. Then he wouldn't have to worry about making a deal with Seattle.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
You've never seen A Christmas Story?
- Isles


I live in the far North of Canada. The list of poop I haven’t seen is SUBSTANTIALLY longer than the list of what I have.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
He could have protected Bailey. Then he wouldn't have to worry about making a deal with Seattle.
- JimmyP


And risk losing Clutterbuck!?!
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 20 @ 12:35 PM ET
LOL,
It’s an award and it’s also Italian.

- nyisles7

lol. Fragile.
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