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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:03 PM ET
Big believer in Patrick developing down the road but I can’t complain about this trade. This is a huge boost for the defense. Myers will not be missed after last season.
- hereticpride


Myers will be a good top 4 guy. He had one bad season where everything was franked up. Judging him based on one season is an overeaction
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Ellis is younger than Niskanen.

I don't like the length of the contract. But the FLyers desperately needed a quality vet to pair up with Provorov.

Giving up what looks like a bust and a question mark for Ellis, not bad. But the FLyers desperately needed a vet on defense.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
It's a win right now. Its a good trade. Ellis is def better than Myers will ever be IMO. Patrick could be the one we regret although hard to with Coots, Hayes and Frost, someone was going to be the odd man out. Either way we filled a need
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It's a great trade. The Flyers got the best player in the deal (today). No clue how some of these guys that cry for change to complain about it when it happens.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Roman Josi had the exact same deployment. Is he sheltered?

No idea, you'll have to ask CF what he thinks he's winning.

- Tomahawk


Anything bordering on 60% OZ starts is sheltered.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Myers will be a good top 4 guy. He had one bad season where everything was franked up. Judging him based on one season is an overeaction
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Where were his good seasons? He’s always had issues. He isn’t 22. He’s 25. I’m not worried that we just traded away a future 1B.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
Agree, I think both real out and are productive. Not a fan but want to see what the long game is with CF

Glad Patrick is in the west

- wcorvette


funny everyone hated on meyers and patrick all year, now not liking this trade. Cant make this stuff up, this board is pure drama. We are trading potential for actual skill.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
It's a great trade. The Flyers got the best player in the deal (today). No clue how some of these guys that cry for change to complain about it when it happens.
- BenderRodriguez

Have to agree. You aren’t getting without giving. Chuck addressed a glaring need by moving two question marks. And this coming from a fan of Patrick.
bgratch
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
So will they protect Jake or JVR now that Patrick gone? Ellis takes Myers spot.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
It's a great trade. The Flyers got the best player in the deal (today). No clue how some of these guys that cry for change to complain about it when it happens.
- BenderRodriguez


Because Flyers are nowhere near a contending team even if it was Makar partnering Provy. Their hope, if any (and it wasn't much) was for the future.

They just signed a 30 year old guy with a significant injury history who has a large cap hit for SIX MORE YEARS? For the sake of a few more wins this year and next and a token appearance in the playoffs?



PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
I don’t think it’s a big deal giving up Myers and Patrick, but Ellis doesn’t move the needle.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Anything bordering on 60% OZ starts is sheltered.
- PT21


In this case, nope.

Josi/Ellis play against top competition. Nashville's just puts that pair out for every offensive faceoff they can because they're that good in the ozone.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Is this stupid ass trade official? For the record, I like Ryan Ellis. I grow up in Windsor and saw him play multiple times in Windsor. He was basically Captain Canada at the World Jr’s for team Canada for awhile. With this said, not for Patrick and Myers. Most certainly not to protect JvR. This is a bad move.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
He is 30 but he isnt in a decline. He is in his prime. Dmen hit their prime typically around 28.

Unforyunately you cant do anything about Patrick's trade value. Everyone should have known his value was low and moving him would be selling low based on the last 2 seasons. That is why moving him likely wasnt the best move unless he doesnt actually pan out. Still a lot of time for him to get it together. Only 22 years old.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Appearantly nopa gets you a Cody glass? I would’ve just made that deal
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Big believer in Patrick developing down the road but I can’t complain about this trade. This is a huge boost for the defense. Myers will not be missed after last season.
- hereticpride

The flyers traded the 2 players who underachieved the worst last season, and the guys who spent 24/7 complaining about them are now complaining we traded them. Cant make this poop up
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
So will they protect Jake or JVR now that Patrick gone? Ellis takes Myers spot.
- bgratch

JVR is my guess. By all accounts I’m guessing they would still like to get Jake taken in the ED
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
I don’t think it’s a big deal giving up Myers and Patrick, but Ellis doesn’t move the needle.
- PLindbergh31


I'm gonna miss Myers. Losing him is gonna come back to bite CF in the ass big time.

But let's also not pretend that Ellis doesn't move the needle. If healthy, he's probably better than Provorov.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
I don’t think it’s a big deal giving up Myers and Patrick, but Ellis doesn’t move the needle.
- PLindbergh31

Ellis is 30. This is an awful move.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
Anything bordering on 60% OZ starts is sheltered.
- PT21

OR maybe, just maybe he is pretty good in the OZ so when there is a faceoff there and he is sitting on the bench, they put him on the ice.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
Is this stupid ass trade official? For the record, I like Ryan Ellis. I grow up in Windsor and saw him play multiple times in Windsor. He was basically Captain Canada at the World Jr’s for team Canada for awhile. With this said, not for Patrick and Myers. Most certainly not to protect JvR. This is a bad move.
- SuperSchennBros

Please. Patrick is currently a 4C with head problems and Myers spent an entire season last year looking like he couldn’t handle 2nd pair duties. This is more than a fair trade.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
Please. Patrick is currently a 4C with head problems and Myers spent an entire season last year looking like he couldn’t handle 2nd our duties. This is more than a fair trade.
- hereticpride


Based on the paragraphs I’ve read, Vegas is about to make Nolan Patrick a star and I believe them.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
At least there will now be plenty of cap space for free agency
- PLindbergh31



Pretty much insures he will have to sweaten with the krack
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
Myers will be a good top 4 guy. He had one bad season where everything was franked up. Judging him based on one season is an overeaction
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It fletch just said he wasn’t going to over react to last season… well at least the plan is laid out. Can’t say I agree with it but..
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Tarasenko is being exposed
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Ellis is 30. This is an awful move.
- SuperSchennBros

Giroux is 33. Should we cut him?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
The flyers traded the 2 players who underachieved the worst last season, and the guys who spent 24/7 complaining about them are now complaining we traded them. Cant make this poop up
- Richieattack18


100%, this board is fun eh lol
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