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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
He sent me this awhile back:


- Tomahawk


That was supposed to be kept among us.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
Hextall filled the Cupboards just for Chuck to pull out the new glasses and plates and smash them against the ground.
- SuperSchennBros


Classic!!!!
CaptainSensible
Joined: 05.16.2021

Jul 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
It's nice to see the Flyers board has devolved into a tallest midget contest once again. All is back to normal!
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
Fletcher did what GM's are suppose to do.

Move out players who are not developing. Who are flawed. You hold onto some. Like Farabee and Provorov. Move out others, like Patrick and Myers.

Trading younger players is part of building a team. Not all of these 'prospects' were going to be here their entire career.

People do know this? Right?

Moving them out so the next generation slides in. York and Zamula will now be worked into the lineup the next couple of seasons. As will Frost. Foerster. Maybe the 1st round pick this year(Sillinger? Who is also a center).

This is the natural progression of building a team.

- Captain_Ahab


wait until york and zamula are in the nhl and we have to move a left D, people will freak lol
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
It was a who cares joke because we didn’t get screwed there.
- SuperSchennBros


Zhitnik was quite a bit older. Ellis still has 3-4 good years ahead of him.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
Oh my god, Patrick and Myers had one bad season along with most of the team. Carter had a bad season as well, what’s your move?
- SuperSchennBros


1 bad season? how many good seasons have they had?
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 17 @ 4:56 PM ET
Ok but for how long? This isn’t a now process, it’s an on going moving forward process.
- SuperSchennBros

I think we can get at least 4 solid years out of Ellis. It's not like he has an absurd cap hit. For a 1st line dman he has an extremely team friendly price.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
That was supposed to be kept among us.

- MJL


Sorry, I kiss and tell.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
Nice! 🥳 you usually paint a rosy picture on everything flyers do or don't do. Even when the deals or players smell worse than your trousers and socks.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

😆🤣
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
Great deal for flyers!

Meyers is not nhl ready

Patrick brings 0 to the table

Ellis is a top 2 dman locked in for 6 years at a below market value cap hit
Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
Oh my god, Patrick and Myers had one bad season along with most of the team. Carter had a bad season as well, what’s your move?
- SuperSchennBros



Patrick missed a entire season and came back looking so bad, that people were screaming that he should be pulled from the lineup. His play was so poor, even Nashville got rid of him 2 seconds after the trade. Also signals Frost will be worked into the lineup. Couturier, Hayes, and Laughton are the other centers.

Myers took a major step back last season. He had one decent season. That's not enough to hold onto him.

Also, the Flyers have other young defensemen who are being cycled up the the NHL roster soon. Such as York and Zamula.

There is always a 'next generation' that is moving up the ladder.

Besides, if the Flyers keep the 13th pick they can replace a young center in Patrick, with, a young center in Sillinger.

This is the circle of life in team building. Young players were always going to be moved out. Even Hextall was going to do this with his 'go time' line.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
In terms of Myers, he is a young defenseman who has played 115 NHL games. That is not a lot for a defenseman. He had a down year last year but I would disagree that he is not developing. Development of players, especially young defenseman is rarely linear.
- MJL
the 24 yr old is developing, but the wrong way or we wouldve kept him lol
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
It's nice to see the Flyers board has devolved into a tallest midget contest once again. All is back to normal!
- CaptainSensible

We’ve seen this movie before. Once Ellis gets his photo taken in a Flyers jersey these bums will dust off their trusty knee pads.

If AMac was a top 4 D man, argued to the moon and back over half a decade, Ellis is surely on his way to the HOF.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
I think we can get at least 4 solid years out of Ellis. It's not like he has an absurd cap hit. For a 1st line dman he has an extremely team friendly price.
- Richieattack18

He’s not a healthy guy
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Patrick missed a entire season and came back looking so bad, that people were screaming that he should be pulled from the lineup. His play was so poor, even Nashville got rid of him 2 seconds after the trade. Also signals Frost will be worked into the lineup. Couturier, Hayes, and Laughton are the other centers.

Myers took a major step back last season. He had one decent season. That's not enough to hold onto him.

Also, the Flyers have other young defensemen who are being cycled up the the NHL roster soon. Such as York and Zamula.

There is always a 'next generation' that is moving up the ladder.

Besides, if the Flyers keep the 13th pick they can replace a young center in Patrick, with, a young center in Sillinger.

This is the circle of life in team building. Young players were always going to be moved out. Even Hextall was going to do this with his 'go time' line.

- Captain_Ahab

No! Carter Hart had a bad season too. Why doesn’t he get traded or Konency?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Remember the Zhamnik deal for Coburn deal? We’re Atlanta in this deal but worse.
- SuperSchennBros

UGH! We all know what happened to the Atlanta Trash Cans 🗑 Honorable 🎖mention! Thrashers got that catatonic John Stevens Fired!
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
I disagree that Myers had more bad games than good in his career.
- MJL


oh well, its true, take off your orange and black glasses and look unbiased.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Protecting JVR makes this a good deal because A) I want him on the team and B) it increases the chance that Seattle takes Jake off our hands
- black_francis



Or in eases them taking Hagg or Braun.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
If anything this trade has all but guaranteed that this board will female dog about literally anything. We could trade for McDavid and people would be pissed at his cap hit.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
We’ve seen this movie before. Once Ellis gets his photo taken in a Flyers jersey these bums will dust off their trusty knee pads.

If AMac was a top 4 D man, argued to the moon and back over half a decade, Ellis is surely on his way to the HOF.

- hereticpride



Amac sent to the AHL because that’s what happens to all top 4 d …
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
Patrick missed a entire season and came back looking so bad, that people were screaming that he should be pulled from the lineup. His play was so poor, even Nashville got rid of him 2 seconds after the trade. Also signals Frost will be worked into the lineup. Couturier, Hayes, and Laughton are the other centers.

Myers took a major step back last season. He had one decent season. That's not enough to hold onto him.

Also, the Flyers have other young defensemen who are being cycled up the the NHL roster soon. Such as York and Zamula.

There is always a 'next generation' that is moving up the ladder.

Besides, if the Flyers keep the 13th pick they can replace a young center in Patrick, with, a young center in Sillinger.

This is the circle of life in team building. Young players were always going to be moved out. Even Hextall was going to do this with his 'go time' line.

- Captain_Ahab



I think you are right in the sense they wanted frost over Patrick
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Great deal for flyers!

Meyers is not nhl ready

Patrick brings 0 to the table

Ellis is a top 2 dman locked in for 6 years at a below market value cap hit

- mydoglicks

Yes, Myers may or may not figure it out but this defense needed someone to stabilize it. We could not go into next season with that same D core or with a plug.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
1 bad season? how many good seasons have they had?
- bradster

Ha! What was your expectation for Phil Myers who was never drafted but still made it to the NHL. I can’t wait for this response because he’s a top 4 defenseman.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
oh well, its true, take off your orange and black glasses and look unbiased.
- bradster



I’m not sure Myers won’t get better….but Christ, your not getting a d man like Ellis for nothing…(frank)…
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
I think you are right in the sense they wanted frost over Patrick
- wcorvette

How do you choose one over the other when neither stay healthy enough to play?
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