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Captain_Ahab
Joined: 03.23.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
Fletcher did what GM's are suppose to do.

Move out players who are not developing. Who are flawed. You hold onto some. Like Farabee and Provorov. Move out others, like Patrick and Myers.

Trading younger players is part of building a team. Not all of these 'prospects' were going to be here their entire career.

People do know this? Right?

Moving them out so the next generation slides in. York and Zamula will now be worked into the lineup the next couple of seasons. As will Frost. Foerster. Maybe the 1st round pick this year(Sillinger? Who is also a center).

This is the natural progression of building a team.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
Myers was flyers best D in the playoff bubble. And Patrick was second in the draft. Flyers are as usual lowballed here.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

It is unfortunate your TV was broke for the 20-21 season.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
I said basically everyone Hextall drafted. That’s excluding the obvious Provy and Hart. Yes, in two years Chuck has already got two prospects that look better than any of the other picks Hextall made at this point. At this point.

Also, let’s not act like once Ellis has his Flyers photo op he won’t be anything but golden in your eyes. Guy who spent 5 years telling everyone AMac was a top 4 D men is complaining about landing Ryan Ellis. Jesus Christ.

- hereticpride

😆🤣👌
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
York and Foerster already look more promising than basically anyone Hexy drafted.
- hereticpride

Is Hart, Provorov and Konency, Hextall products? If they are, you shouldn’t post here anymore.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
Is this a joke? Patrick and Myers careers haven’t begun yet. We gave up both of them for a guy who isn’t at minimum a star or a stud. When Patrick and Myers find their way, Ellis’ career could be done.
- SuperSchennBros


you spelled "if" wrong
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
It is unfortunate your TV was broke for the 20-21 season.
- JW98FlyerFan

I blame the quarantine 😆🤣
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:44 PM ET


Also, let’s not act like once Ellis has his Flyers photo op he won’t be anything but golden in your eyes. Guy who spent 5 years telling everyone AMac was a top 4 D men is complaining about landing Ryan Ellis. Jesus Christ.

- hereticpride


My objection to the trade is not that Ellis is not a good player. He is a good player. He will make the Flyers better now. My objection to the deal is that one, he has too many years left on his deal. Secondly, he misses a lot of games due to injury. Thirdly, I think that Myers is going to be a really good NHL defenseman. I'll look at Ellis play as a Flyers and evaluate it just like I would with any player. MacDonald was an NHL top 4 defenseman. That is a fact but it has nothing to do with this situation. You bringing that up is simply asinine.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
Hextall filled the Cupboards just for Chuck to pull out the new glasses and plates and smash them against the ground.
- SuperSchennBros


I don't care much about Patrick leaving. I still held out hopes for Myers. Ellis is good and will help them out for sure. But for how long? If he had 2 or 3 years left on the deal I'm all about it. But 6 years?

I feel like the Flyers will rid themselves of a long deal like Jake or JVR only to now take on this one. We'll see.

Right now I wouldn't get too worked up about it. Long term it is for sure a head scratcher.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Fletcher did what GM's are suppose to do.

Move out players who are not developing. Who are flawed. You hold onto some. Like Farabee and Provorov. Move out others, like Patrick and Myers.

Trading younger players is part of building a team. Not all of these 'prospects' were going to be here their entire career.

People do know this? Right?

Moving them out so the next generation slides in. York and Zamula will now be worked into the lineup the next couple of seasons. As will Frost. Foerster. Maybe the 1st round pick this year(Sillinger? Who is also a center).

This is the natural progression of building a team.

- Captain_Ahab

Oh my god, Patrick and Myers had one bad season along with most of the team. Carter had a bad season as well, what’s your move?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Obviously the term is long and it’s a win now move but we all knew this was the only direction upper management would accept. It’s funny to hear folks outside of the flyers talk about the deal, the flyers fans need to wake up and realize that Myers and Patrick were nothing, Patrick flat out sucked and Myers was a huge maybe.
- ClaudeFather



Sad….but true.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Obviously the term is long and it’s a win now move but we all knew this was the only direction upper management would accept. It’s funny to hear folks outside of the flyers talk about the deal, the flyers fans need to wake up and realize that Myers and Patrick were nothing, Patrick flat out sucked and Myers was a huge maybe.
- ClaudeFather



Sad….but true.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
Fletcher did what GM's are suppose to do.

Move out players who are not developing. Who are flawed. You hold onto some. Like Farabee and Provorov. Move out others, like Patrick and Myers.

Trading younger players is part of building a team. Not all of these 'prospects' were going to be here their entire career.

People do know this? Right?

Moving them out so the next generation slides in. York and Zamula will now be worked into the lineup the next couple of seasons. As will Frost. Foerster. Maybe the 1st round pick this year(Sillinger? Who is also a center).

This is the natural progression of building a team.

- Captain_Ahab


In terms of Myers, he is a young defenseman who has played 115 NHL games. That is not a lot for a defenseman. He had a down year last year but I would disagree that he is not developing. Development of players, especially young defenseman is rarely linear.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
we literally traded the 2 young guys I wanted off the team.

Ghost and Jake are next.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
I don't care much about Patrick leaving. I still held out hopes for Myers. Ellis is good and will help them out for sure. But for how long? If he had 2 or 3 years left on the deal I'm all about it. But 6 years?

I feel like the Flyers will rid themselves of a long deal like Jake or JVR only to now take on this one. We'll see.

Right now I wouldn't get too worked up about it. Long term it is for sure a head scratcher.

- Pelle31Forever

Remember the Zhamnik deal for Coburn deal? We’re Atlanta in this deal but worse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Obviously the term is long and it’s a win now move but we all knew this was the only direction upper management would accept. It’s funny to hear folks outside of the flyers talk about the deal, the flyers fans need to wake up and realize that Myers and Patrick were nothing, Patrick flat out sucked and Myers was a huge maybe.
- ClaudeFather


If Myers was considered to be nothing, they wouldn't have gotten Ellis for him in a trade.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Remember the Zhamnik deal for Coburn deal? We’re Atlanta in this deal but worse.
- SuperSchennBros


Bro, Zhitnik. Zhamnov was the other horrible trade
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
The entire team was awful. The list of players that were awful is long.
- MJL


yes, and they were the 2 worst. 'meyers has had more bad games than good in his career, and dont even have to comment on patrick
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
Maroon probably the worst player all-time winning 3 straight Stanley Cups. Do I see Patrick and Myers winning Stanley Cup 🥤 as the the tradition is for ex flyers. Not immediately. Bolts and AVS look like likely SC winners next 4-5 years.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
Remember the Zhamnik deal for Coburn deal? We’re Atlanta in this deal but worse.
- SuperSchennBros


Agreed.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
Biggest winner of trade is Provy
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
you spelled "if" wrong
- bradster

Are you pooping pills? I said what I needed to say properly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
yes, and they were the 2 worst. 'meyers has had more bad games than good in his career, and dont even have to comment on patrick
- bradster


I disagree that Myers had more bad games than good in his career.


pucks4all
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
He sent me this awhile back:


- Tomahawk

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
Bro, Zhitnik. Zhamnov was the other horrible trade
- Tomahawk

It was a who cares joke because we didn’t get screwed there.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
If Myers was considered to be nothing, they wouldn't have gotten Ellis for him in a trade.
- MJL

A huge maybe, has all the tools but can’t quite put it all together
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