Terrible trade. Although some will struggle to admit that. Wasting a 2nd round pick to take on that cap hit. He also won't get much more than a 3rd or 4th rounder if you flip him at the deadline. Would have rather used this 2nd, added another prospect, and acquired Graves who could have been a longer-term asset. We robbed Edmonton on AA. We robbed Washington on Mantha. But this is ugly.
- Kooleus

Hopefully he plays well and does not fall apart like Green did. Yikes!

I don't see why this is a terrible trade. Red wings aren't contenders and have oodles of cap space for the 1 season he is in Detroit. A 2nd round pick isn't a high price to pay considering it belonged to Edmonton and is in the 50s. It's also in a draft that's a complete crap shoot because the prospects haven't played much.

Meh. Could be worse.

I don't see why this is a terrible trade. Red wings aren't contenders and have oodles of cap space for the 1 season he is in Detroit. A 2nd round pick isn't a high price to pay considering it belonged to Edmonton and is in the 50s. It's also in a draft that's a complete crap shoot because the prospects haven't played much.

Meh. Could be worse.
- Aaron_85

I feel the same way, I don’t get the hate for this deal. Leddy will help Detroit out, they didn’t trade their own 2nd round pick, got rid of Panik who they only took to get that deal with the Caps completed, the draft is a complete crapshoot this year, prospects barely played, and on top of that no guarantee that the player taken with that pick will even pan out. Unless he gets a season ending injury you know what your getting with Leddy and with Detroit not exactly a prime destination at the moment why not? Also maybe it works out for Leddy in Detroit and ends up staying a few years. After all the only reason the Islanders got Leddy in the first place was cause the Blackhawks had cap issues and had to make a move they really didn’t want to make. Kind of like this one. Does this deal happen if there is no expansion draft??

I love the logic here...this draft is a crap shoot so no big deal trading a 2nd. Haha. But I thought the story was Yzerman was a genius who can find draft gems? Our scouts are so smart that we're at an advantage because some draftees have barely played? Time to make up your mind folks. But I'll play along...this 2nd isn't that valuable in this draft. Ok. Then why not acquire Graves over Leddy? The price wasn't that much more. Again, stupid trade which some won't admit.

Any chance Leddy is traded immediately after the expansion draft? Effectively, another team buying a protected slot from Detroit? If Stevie flips Leddy for a 1st next week, he’s playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

Or retain more salary and sometime before the TDL he is traded for a 2022 1st, if he is playing well.......

It could be worse. We could have traded for Duncan Keith

I love the logic here...this draft is a crap shoot so no big deal trading a 2nd. Haha. But I thought the story was Yzerman was a genius who can find draft gems? Our scouts are so smart that we're at an advantage because some draftees have barely played? Time to make up your mind folks. But I'll play along...this 2nd isn't that valuable in this draft. Ok. Then why not acquire Graves over Leddy? The price wasn't that much more. Again, stupid trade which some won't admit.
- Kooleus

Likely Colorado didn't want anything available from the red wings. Or red wings saw Leddy a better fit for the team. He seems like a low maintenance professional. Why not?

Also, I think Yzerman is a great GM. I do not think anyone is at an advantage in this draft.

Theres two additional 2nd round picks this year.

Likely Colorado didn't want anything available from the red wings. Or red wings saw Leddy a better fit for the team. He seems like a low maintenance professional. Why not?

Also, I think Yzerman is a great GM. I do not think anyone is at an advantage in this draft.

Theres two additional 2nd round picks this year.
- Aaron_85

Colorado accepted a 2nd round pick and B-level prospect for Graves. They didn't target a specific roster player. We couldn't offer the same thing? A 2nd + Svech or Cholowski or even just two 2nds probably would have been enough.

Colorado accepted a 2nd round pick and B-level prospect for Graves. They didn't target a specific roster player. We couldn't offer the same thing? A 2nd + Svech or Cholowski or even just two 2nds probably would have been enough.
- Kooleus

Maybe Steve didn't want to part with 2 2nds. Pretty sure that would hurt you worse than giving up a single 2nd since that bugs you in the Leddy trade.
Also, again maybe Steve didn't want to give up a prospect or Colorado just doesn't want to deal with red wings. Lots of reasons why it might not have been done.

I find it funny that your dislike for the Leddy trade is giving up a single pick and your argument for Graves is to give up MORE of them. Are you arguing for the sake of it or do you have a point?

Leddy is likely > Graves.

On those same boards he was garnering much criticism during the playoffs for his defensive play. His cap hit is $5.5M, but his actual salary will be $7M
- HenryHockey

Well you didn’t like the teaching vet idea yesterday at a high cost and now we have one. This wasn’t want i had in mind.

Well you didn’t like the teaching vet idea yesterday at a high cost and now we have one. This wasn’t want i had in mind.
- Tee56

It just does not look like an Yzerman style trade. Everyone feels there is more to it.

Maybe Steve didn't want to part with 2 2nds. Pretty sure that would hurt you worse than giving up a single 2nd since that bugs you in the Leddy trade.
Also, again maybe Steve didn't want to give up a prospect or Colorado just doesn't want to deal with red wings. Lots of reasons why it might not have been done.

I find it funny that your dislike for the Leddy trade is giving up a single pick and your argument for Graves is to give up MORE of them. Are you arguing for the sake of it or do you have a point?

Leddy is likely > Graves.
- Aaron_85

The fact that you think Leddy is better than Graves probably ends this discussion. Not to mention their age, cap hit, contract status. Buh bye.

Likely Colorado didn't want anything available from the red wings. Or red wings saw Leddy a better fit for the team. He seems like a low maintenance professional. Why not?

Also, I think Yzerman is a great GM. I do not think anyone is at an advantage in this draft.

Theres two additional 2nd round picks this year.
- Aaron_85

Not to mention Colorado as well as the 2nd got an almost ready NHL prospect in the deal.

Also maybe Colorado didn’t want Panik even at 50% retained as well.
People aren’t talking about that much.

It just does not look like an Yzerman style trade. Everyone feels there is more to it.
- HenryHockey

I guess it’s wait and see here? Maybe Deadline trade bait or he’s moving one more time before summer ends?

Yzerman has to get better than DET's 2nd rounder at the deadline for Leddy in order for this to be a win. I have faith that he will.

Not sure how I feel about this trade. I guess in time we'll see how it plays out. Leddy is decent and fills a need as a LD for the Wings. Giving up EDM's 2nd round pick it's whatever. Panik meh ok. I'm trusting Stevie knows something we all don't even if this one is a head scratcher. As mentioned above by people I'm surprised Ryan Graves wasn't targeted or maybe he was. Really like Graves playing style even if he does cough up the puck more than one would like.

Not sure how I feel about this trade. I guess in time we'll see how it plays out. Leddy is decent and fills a need as a LD for the Wings. Giving up EDM's 2nd round pick it's whatever. Panik meh ok. I'm trusting Stevie knows something we all don't even if this one is a head scratcher. As mentioned above by people I'm surprised Ryan Graves wasn't targeted or maybe he was. Really like Graves playing style even if he does cough up the puck more than one would like.
- TheSeer

hoping someone else still wants Leddy and won’t give up.

I love the logic here...this draft is a crap shoot so no big deal trading a 2nd. Haha. But I thought the story was Yzerman was a genius who can find draft gems? Our scouts are so smart that we're at an advantage because some draftees have barely played? Time to make up your mind folks. But I'll play along...this 2nd isn't that valuable in this draft. Ok. Then why not acquire Graves over Leddy? The price wasn't that much more. Again, stupid trade which some won't admit.
- Kooleus

Leddy is a guy capable of producing offense at a .5 PPG clip. The only other player really on the Wings defense that can get that is Hronek. Wings need someone that can generate some offense on the backend especially from the left side which they had nothing. I like Graves but he is not really a guy that will generate offense as much as a guy like Leddy. Wings were at the bottom of the league in GF and the PP. Leddy is a guy that can possibly improve the team on both of those. I'm curious to see who the other LD Yzerman will bring in will be...personally i'm hoping Oleksiak but maybe Yzerman has another trade in mind who knows.


A late 2nd seems like too much to give for what is a cap dump by the Islanders. This draft might be more of crap shoot than other years but it cuts both ways. You could get players that shouldn't be drafted that high in the first 2 rounds or you could get players that with a normal season might have gone much higher...it can go both ways.

I'll wait and see for a final verdict on this deal. If Leddy can help the offense for this season and be moved for at least a 2nd rounder or a first, then it will be a win for the Wings. If not then Yzerman gambled and lost...just like the Perlini deal. Win or lose, i do like the fact Yzerman is always looking to improve the team with trades compared to Ken Holland.

It could be worse. We could have traded for Duncan Keith
- zetterberg40

Yeah... another reminder of how lucky we are that Holland is gone. Good grief what a stupid trade by Holland to give Chicago that gift of a trade / salary dump. Just reminds us all of how terrible Holland was at trades. The oiler fans are all fuming at that trade.

Really surprised by all the Leddy hate here.

To those who say he’s poop defensively, I must ask how the hell you reached that opinion? I’ve watched him for years, and while he’s no defensive stalwart he’s still responsible defensively. He’s also fast as hell and capable of producing 5 v 5 and on the powerplay. The guy is literally good at everything, but great at nothing (except skating).

You gave up a 2nd to get him. Unless you overachieve somewhat and threaten to make the postseason, you’ll almost certainly get a 1st for him at the deadline (as did a lesser player in Savard).

It’s not a huge win for Detroit like the Mantha deal, but it’s a sound move with a reasonable expectation of higher reward.

Okay... so this may sound like a weird question.

Probably not likely since Stevie gave up a 2nd rounder... but is it possible he might NOT protect Leddy and protect Stecher instead knowing that Seattle would not pick Leddy because of his salary / age, etc.. ??? Then Seattle would have to take a less desirable player like Cholowski or Lindstrom ?

As far as the Leddy trade, I'm going to hold off on judgement as I've not seen him play much except when he was in Chicago. We'll see how he plays in Detroit. He may fetch a better draft pick than people think.

Okay... so this may sound like a weird question.

Probably not likely since Stevie gave up a 2nd rounder... but is it possible he might NOT protect Leddy and protect Stecher instead knowing that Seattle would not pick Leddy because of his salary / age, etc.. ??? Then Seattle would have to take a less desirable player like Cholowski or Lindstrom ?

As far as the Leddy trade, I'm going to hold off on judgement as I've not seen him play much except when he was in Chicago. We'll see how he plays in Detroit. He may fetch a better draft pick than people think.
- Vladdie_Kon1

i think he protects Leddy, Hronek and Stecher. Let's the Krack decide between Svetch, Nemmy, Cholo and Lindstrom

Stars, Miro Heiskanen agree to 8-year, $67.6 million contract/ $8.45 million annual average

i think he protects Leddy, Hronek and Stecher. Let's the Krack decide between Svetch, Nemmy, Cholo and Lindstrom
- HenryHockey

There is also DeKeyser but i doubt they take him with his salary and injury history.

I guess it’s wait and see here? Maybe Deadline trade bait or he’s moving one more time before summer ends?
- Tee56

The wings have more cap space than cap hit right now. Maybe this is to help get to the
cap floor to start the season and flip him at the deadline?