id take him, i think he is a perfect fit. He can still be good for another 5-6 years before he shows noticable decline
- bradster

He's not a legitimate top pairing defenseman so how can he be a perfect fit for what they need?

15 goal scorere?| Huh?
- bradster

Surprised are you. well here you go
last year 9G in 53 games project 14 in 82 games
prior yr 12 g in 69 games project 14 in 82 games

Prior 5 seasons 91 goals
Thats 119 goals in last 7 years and average of 17 per season. 14 in last 2....Thats all JV is at 8.25M per

He's not a legitimate top pairing defenseman so how can he be a perfect fit for what they need?
- MJL

Didnt claim he was a #1
because we need more than 1 RHD, he is a perfect fit on our D. Thats how

Surprised are you. well here you go
last year 9G in 53 games project 14 in 82 games
prior yr 12 g in 69 games project 14 in 82 games

Prior 5 seasons 91 goals
Thats 119 goals in last 7 years and average of 17 per season. 14 in last 2....Thats all JV is at 8.25M per
- hfc355

oh jake, thought you were talking jvr. Ya, everyone knows jake isnt a scorer. I guess of you only rate players on goals, jake is not your man.

I think jake is a good player, just not on this team, we need more out of him, i think wed be better without him straight up. Or replace him with someone at half his salary, we would be a better team. For Jake to excel, you need a couple of goal scorers to play with him, unfortunately thats also where G excels too, and Hayes is a better play maker than scorer, and we cant have too many of those players

Didnt claim he was a #1
because we need more than 1 RHD, he is a perfect fit on our D. Thats how
- bradster

So the need for the Flyers is a RH defenseman to play on the top pairing. The Flyers have Myers and Braun that play the right side. You only have so much cap space to spend. It would take a multi year deal to sign Larsson. Why are you doing it if it doesn't fill your biggest need? The only way it would make sense if Larsson was not going to play on the top pair was if you were going to trade Myers in a separate deal for another defenseman. The perfect fit for the Flyers defense right now, is a RH top pairing two way puck moving defenseman who can play in all situations. ES, PP and PK. That is not Larsson. I don't think Larsson is a bad add. I like the player. He's just not a perfect fit.

He's at the tail end of his prime. He is a solid RH defender and will help defensively and on the PK. He can be a complimentary player to play with Provorov and would help but he is not an ideal to pairing defenseman. If the price is right I would consider it but I think they might have difficulty adding two top 4 defenseman.
- MJL

They can if the Flyers lose either Jake or JVR in the ED. Then Fletcher can spend wisely on two defenseman versus dumping a load of money and trade assets on Hamilton or Jones. I think Larsson helps and if not him I think Savard is another viable option. Then you get another solid top 4 Dman at as similar price range to really solidify things. Carlo just signed for about $4M per, so why not get two players like this? Or how about the Flyers spend a little more and pry Ellis away from Nashville or Klingberg from Dallas and sign either Larsson or Savard. Now you got something.

So the need for the Flyers is a RH defenseman to play on the top pairing. The Flyers have Myers and Braun that play the right side. You only have so much cap space to spend. It would take a multi year deal to sign Larsson. Why are you doing it if it doesn't fill your biggest need? The only way it would make sense if Larsson was not going to play on the top pair was if you were going to trade Myers in a separate deal for another defenseman. The perfect fit for the Flyers defense right now, is a RH top pairing two way puck moving defenseman who can play in all situations. ES, PP and PK. That is not Larsson. I don't think Larsson is a bad add. I like the player. He's just not a perfect fit.
- MJL

I agree, that is why it has to be Larsson and ...

He's not a legitimate top pairing defenseman so how can he be a perfect fit for what they need?
- MJL

But how many legitimate top pairing defenseman will really be available to the Flyers. Hamilton I guess, but as I mentioned they need a lot more than him on the back end and gaining cap flexibility only to lock it up again on one player does not make much sense. Seth Jones is not going to be an option given his stated path, so its better if the Flyers get two solid top 4 defenseman to solidify their backend.

That is why I would rather Fletcher spend wisely on two defenseman versus dumping a load of money and trade assets on Hamilton or Jones. I think Larsson helps and if not him I think Savard is another viable option. Then you get another solid top 4 Dman at as similar price range to really solidify things. Carlo just signed for about $4M per, so why not get two players like this? Or how about the Flyers spend a little more and pry Ellis away from Nashville or Klingberg from Dallas and sign either Larsson or Savard. Now you got something.
- jd250

Ellis has what, 5 more years at 6M a year with injury issues? You have Sanheim, Myers and York with other prospects coming such as Zamula. Why get into long term 4-5 year deals or longer with older players if they aren't true difference makers? If you want to bring in vets like Klingberg or possibly Savard for a couple of years as stop gaps, I would be okay.

I agree, that is why it has to be Larsson and ...
- jd250

And who? That is going to play on the top pair and QB the PP. You're talking over 10M in cap hits if it is for longer term players.

But how many legitimate top pairing defenseman will really be available to the Flyers. Hamilton I guess, but as I mentioned they need a lot more than him on the back end and gaining cap flexibility only to lock it up again on one player does not make much sense. Seth Jones is not going to be an option given his stated path, so its better if the Flyers get two solid top 4 defenseman to solidify their backend.
- jd250

Not many that's why if you can't get that then don't get tied up in significant term deals for lesser players. It's either the top or short term stop gap vets. Nothing in the middle. That's what the Flyers did with Hayes.

Explain “big concerns.” He doesn’t appear to be in decline, no durability issues. He is a captain and quality player. Is the concern just because Colorado hasn’t worked a deal yet?
- NC Flyers Fan

He faded a bit in the playoffs against Vegas to my eye, but that could because he was in a poopty 2nd line, after Saad took his place.

I still think Ristolainen would be a good target for bolstering the back end. Brings size, physicality, and can actually play some defense despite the ugly +/- numbers playing in Buffalo. Only 26. Still a lot of good hockey ahead of him.

Explain “big concerns.” He doesn’t appear to be in decline, no durability issues. He is a captain and quality player. Is the concern just because Colorado hasn’t worked a deal yet?
- NC Flyers Fan

If one of our big contracts do indeed go. I would be definitely be interested in landeskog. Would be surprised if he didn’t stay.

I still think Ristolainen would be a good target for bolstering the back end. Brings size, physicality, and can actually play some defense despite the ugly +/- numbers playing in Buffalo. Only 26. Still a lot of good hockey ahead of him.
- hereticpride

I hope he has good hockey ahead of him because he's got a lot of bad hockey behind him.

Larsson has his issues, but he's twice the defender that Risto is.

If one of our big contracts do indeed go. I would be definitely be interested in landeskog. Would be surprised if he didn’t stay.
- Peter Richards

Let's get rid of our overpaid 30-somethings so we can replace them with future overpaid 30-somethings.

Let's get rid of our overpaid 30-somethings so we can replace them with future overpaid 30-somethings.
- Tomahawk

If we didn't have Hayes, I'd be all in. Would take him over Voracek and JVR in the lineup. He's the kind of over 30 player you want.

If we didn't have Hayes, I'd be all in. Would take him over Voracek and JVR in the lineup. He's the kind of over 30 player you want.
- MJL

Dunno, it's always kinda iffy with power forwards. Maybe he's got 6-7 more solid years ahead of him. Probably not, tho.

If one of our big contracts do indeed go. I would be definitely be interested in landeskog. Would be surprised if he didn’t stay.
- Peter Richards

Me too.

How is Tarasenko's shoulder? Will it hold up over a season? Without knowing that and being confident that he is healthy, I'll take Voracek or JVR.
- MJL

Correct. I'd rather have Voracek on the ice playing than have Tarasenko sitting in the stands. Unless the goal is to chuck Tarasenko on LTIR.

Me too.
- NC Flyers Fan

Landeskag is going nowhere.

Landeskag is going nowhere.
- Sinisalo4vr

Yeah, it would be a shocker.

COL traded Graves to NJ for Maltsev and a 2nd

COL traded Graves to NJ for Maltsev and a 2nd
- Minnyhock

Great deal for the Devils.

But how many legitimate top pairing defenseman will really be available to the Flyers. Hamilton I guess, but as I mentioned they need a lot more than him on the back end and gaining cap flexibility only to lock it up again on one player does not make much sense. Seth Jones is not going to be an option given his stated path, so its better if the Flyers get two solid top 4 defenseman to solidify their backend.
- jd250

100%, and i think Braun is done after this year too