I don’t think anyone should take the CF presser with much weight. I’d say if you listened to 5 other GM pre ED pressers they’d have very similar answers to the interview questions.

At first CF saying he didnt have anything new to learn for ED, it did bother me but then I thought: few GMs would admit (IMO) they royally (frank)ed up in the Vegas ED

Ah, you thought 2nd rounder. No, 2nd overall pick.

I can see Seattle demurring. But to us, it seems to me something worthy of consideration.
- PT21

Ok. That's a bit more balanced. I still don't want them to give up on Myers. I think we were all shocked by young players regression, but I still want to be patient.

Peaks and valleys with young players. We're asking a lot of all of them, and remember, this is not Boston. An established vet core which knows the path to success. When you bring youngsters into that environment, they know they have time to grow and can rely on the core to carry the mail until they are ready. While we have a good core, we have had to rely on the kids a lot more and earlier than we probably should.

Ok fine, but look closely at the deal. They are taking JVR off our hands.

It boils down to Myers +13th for a 2nd. You wouldn't do the last?

You can get a guy like Eklund, the kind of creative, blue chip forward prospect so lacking in our system for our mid-level pick in a variable draft + a guy who was repeatedly scratched from the roster last year? Myers is fighting for his NHL life this year and it may not go the way you hope.
- PT21

In a heart beat. But for something like this the Flyers would have to be pretty high on the second over all pick. Obviously, there doesn’t appear to be a “generational” talent in this draft although Power could really be a legit # 1 d. But let’s not kid our selves, the #13 and a struggling d man probably wouldn’t get this done.

Ok. That's a bit more balanced. I still don't want them to give up on Myers. I think we were all shocked by young players regression, but I still want to be patient.

Peaks and valleys with young players. We're asking a lot of all of them, and remember, this is not Boston. An established vet core which knows the path to success. When you bring youngsters into that environment, they know they have time to grow and can rely on the core to carry the mail until they are ready. While we have a good core, we have had to rely on the kids a lot more and earlier than we probably should.
- Hextall271

But you will get another young player with the 2nd pick who you can also develop. You are not giving up on youth per se, nor on patience, just rebalancing portfolio like for like? It’s a trade of a player, not an abandonment of the philosophy you mention.

I don’t think anyone should take the CF presser with much weight. I’d say if you listened to 5 other GM pre ED pressers they’d have very similar answers to the interview questions.

At first CF saying he didnt have anything new to learn for ED, it did bother me but then I thought: few GMs would admit (IMO) they royally (frank)ed up in the Vegas ED
- arichardson22

Press Conferences are all GM speak. They mean basically nothing. His Minnesota resume is what should concern everyone.

In a heart beat. But for something like this the Flyers would have to be pretty high on the second over all pick. Obviously, there doesn’t appear to be a “generational” talent in this draft although Power could really be a legit # 1 d. But let’s not kid our selves, the #13 and a struggling d man probably wouldn’t get this done.
- landros 2

If I am Seattle no way in hell I do that. But for us, best to my reading, there are players even in this “weak draft” whose projected path is way above Myers projected path.

Sounds like Landeskog might actually end up leaving Colorado.

Sounds like Landeskog might actually end up leaving Colorado.
- ClaudeFather

I would have heavy interest if there wasn't a big need for a RH top pair D man or they could somehow move Hayes.

Is your number one draft pick in play for a trade or do you plan on keeping it?

BF: Depends on who you ask.

CF: Yeah, Brent wants me to keep it.



- Tomahawk

Maybe he can trade it to the wild for the corpses of Hanzal and Ryan White

I would have heavy interest if there wasn't a big need for a RH top pair D man or they could somehow move Hayes.
- MJL

Yea I just don’t even see how we could make it happen, the following years cap is a big issue. Especially with that hole on the top pair.

Sounds like Landeskog might actually end up leaving Colorado.
- ClaudeFather

You know he'll re-sign right after the ED.

If I am Seattle no way in hell I do that. But for us, best to my reading, there are players even in this “weak draft” whose projected path is way above Myers projected path.
- PT21

It really sounds like the draft is 9-10 players deep, then a bit of a drop off…but with the lack of scouting and some of the logistic challenges of the last year, there may be some real gems, that just didn’t get the opportunity to show the scouts. Another poster has suggested that trading the 13 pick better involve a legit star type player….and I concur.

Ok fine, but look closely at the deal. They are taking JVR off our hands.

It boils down to Myers +13th for a 2nd. You wouldn't do the last?

You can get a guy like Eklund, the kind of creative, blue chip forward prospect so lacking in our system for our mid-level pick in a variable draft + a guy who was repeatedly scratched from the roster last year? Myers is fighting for his NHL life this year and it may not go the way you hope.
- PT21

a second-round pick (which is what this looks like) or the 2nd overall pick?

You know he'll re-sign right after the ED.
- Tomahawk

I haven’t seen their cap situation but if they had something lined up for post ED he would not come out and say he’s not happy with contracts talk stalling. Not saying it doesn’t get done but that’s a pretty bad sign.

Landeskog called out Avs for lack on contract talks and Dreger is saying the two sides are no where near a deal. If he hits FA AND we clear out cap through the ED, he could be an enticing signing. Plays a solid game
- arichardson22

if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

Press Conferences are all GM speak. They mean basically nothing. His Minnesota resume is what should concern everyone.
- PLindbergh31

bUt h3 LeRnD Fr0m HiZ MiZ sTeAks!

If I am Seattle no way in hell I do that.
- PT21

Yeah.... if you're Ron Francis, why would you blow one of your best current trade chips on JVR? Why wouldn't you just make the selection or use it to grab somebody genuinely exciting with a future with the team... like Eichel or Reinhart or Monahan or whoever.

And if you're the Flyers, why wouldn't you just let Seattle take JVR for free and keep Myers and #13, which isn't gonna net you a vastly inferior player than #2 this year. If Seattle doesn't take JVR, you keep him and he contributes.

I haven’t seen their cap situation but if they had something lined up for post ED he would not come out and say he’s not happy with contracts talk stalling. Not saying it doesn’t get done but that’s a pretty bad sign.
- ClaudeFather

I think Fletcher's presser sheds light on this. Fletcher said he hasn't spent much time on contract negotiations and is more focused first on the ED, and the draft. After that they'll focus on free agency and player signings. Probably like that with every team.

Yeah.... if you're Ron Francis, why would you blow one of your best current trade chips on JVR? Why wouldn't you just make the selection or use it to grab somebody genuinely exciting with a future with the team... like Eichel or Reinhart or Monahan or whoever.

And if you're the Flyers, why wouldn't you just let Seattle take JVR for free and keep Myers and #13, which isn't gonna net you a vastly inferior player than #2 this year. If Seattle doesn't take JVR, you keep him and he contributes.
- Tomahawk

Exactly. Not difficult to figure out.

That would be my guess too. I saw good 2 way effort from him last year. He finished +2. I think he can still produce 30+ goals on a top line. He was on pace for about 25 goals and 56 points, not far from career highs.

And yes, trading him for picks/prospects would be a good idea if Seattle wants to reach floor and yet commit to youth.

Would JVR + this year 1st + say Myers for Seattle's 2nd be a feasible trade?
- PT21

Your kidding arent you....you want to unload a player who wont be protected...a 3rd paid defenseman to move from 13 to 2?? Seattle would laugh

I would have heavy interest if there wasn't a big need for a RH top pair D man or they could somehow move Hayes.
- MJL

Yeah teams will be lined up for Hayes???...that aint happening

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this was epic last night

I haven’t seen their cap situation but if they had something lined up for post ED he would not come out and say he’s not happy with contracts talk stalling. Not saying it doesn’t get done but that’s a pretty bad sign.
- ClaudeFather

Smells like a lot of wishful thinking from the other 31 fanbases to me.

They probably aren't close yet on a contract yet. But it only takes one phone call to close the gap. And they still have time before Seattle gets their crack at him.

Yeah.... if you're Ron Francis, why would you blow one of your best current trade chips on JVR? Why wouldn't you just make the selection or use it to grab somebody genuinely exciting with a future with the team... like Eichel or Reinhart or Monahan or whoever.

And if you're the Flyers, why wouldn't you just let Seattle take JVR for free and keep Myers and #13, which isn't gonna net you a vastly inferior player than #2 this year. If Seattle doesn't take JVR, you keep him and he contributes.
- Tomahawk

To put it in a nutshell: you trade 2 players most likely projected to be middle pairing/ middle 6 guys for a guy most likely projected to be top pairing/top line.

A trade off of probabilities.

Your kidding arent you....you want to unload a player who wont be protected...a 3rd paid defenseman to move from 13 to 2?? Seattle would laugh
- hfc355

I largely agree. Its interesting though that in a trade involving 3 players, all young, apparently both sides would find the trade not in their interests.