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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 13 @ 5:29 PM ET
I don’t think anyone really mentions that besides RW and Boyd.
- Victoro311

2 too many. Playing Tanev with Sid and trading Rust + for an upgrade to play with Malkin would be more beneficial than the nonsense spewed in this blog. Sid has his sidekick on Guentzel, those two don’t need a bonafide offense machine to play with. Jake Sid Rust sucked for the last 3rd of the season anyhow.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 5:34 PM ET
2 too many. Playing Tanev with Sid and trading Rust + for an upgrade to play with Malkin would be more beneficial than the nonsense spewed in this blog. Sid has his sidekick on Guentzel, those two don’t need a bonafide offense machine to play with. Jake Sid Rust sucked for the last 3rd of the season anyhow.
- Grinder47

Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 13 @ 5:49 PM ET

- Feds91Stammer

We could sign Tatar to be benched when games matter most. Isn’t that twice now he’s a passenger on a cup run?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 13 @ 6:35 PM ET
There are plenty of wingers who can play top line already. Sort of why I said we need to move some. Guentzel playing top line a few years ago would have been considered insane. Stop pushing for old overpaid stiffs and hope for energy and youth to be injected at some points.
- VoiceofLange

We don't have any blue chip prospects, so whoever you want to give a shot to should start out lower down the line-up and try to work their way up.

Malkin out will open up a forward spot to start the season, but it should be a 3rd/4th line spot.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
I don’t think anyone really mentions that besides RW and Boyd.
- Victoro311



I'm not really in the Tanev must be traded boat, but his contract definitely sucks for what he brings. I think there are other contracts that I'd prefer to get out of:

Zucker
Matheson
Jarry
Pettersson
Tanev

I think you can get what Tanev brings for cheaper than 3.5m for 5yrs.

would probably be the order I'd prefer to get rid of, Tanev being the least that I want to move.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
We could sign Tatar to be benched when games matter most. Isn’t that twice now he’s a passenger on a cup run?
- Grinder47

Worked out great for those teams
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 13 @ 7:28 PM ET
I'm not really in the Tanev must be traded boat, but his contract definitely sucks for what he brings. I think there are other contracts that I'd prefer to get out of:

Zucker
Matheson
Jarry
Pettersson
Tanev

I think you can get what Tanev brings for cheaper than 3.5m for 5yrs.

would probably be the order I'd prefer to get rid of, Tanev being the least that I want to move.

- j.boyd919

I agree with that list, although I may have Matheson above Zucker but that's just splitting hairs haha.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 7:35 PM ET
I agree with that list, although I may have Matheson above Zucker but that's just splitting hairs haha.
- 668710


I don't even think Zucker is that bad a player, I just think that he has poop chemistry with Geno and Sully won't play him with Sid. So they should trade him and find someone who will play well with Geno if Sid gets to keep Guentzel.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 13 @ 7:42 PM ET
I don't even think Zucker is a bad player, I just think that he has poop chemistry with Geno and Sully won't play him with Sid. So they should trade him and find someone who will play well with Geno if Sid gets to keep Guentzel.
- j.boyd919

Gotcha, and yea that makes complete sense. We could have been way better off with Zuck and Guentz swapped. McCann was pretty good with Carter too I believe.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 7:45 PM ET
Gotcha, and yea that makes complete sense. We could have been way better off with Zuck and Guentz swapped. McCann was pretty good with Carter too I believe.
- 668710


Honestly, I wouldn't have minded him trying McCann with Geno. McCann is a shooter and a quality shooter at that. Gives Geno a shooter and a rush scorer in Kap.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 7:50 PM ET
Worked out great for those teams
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah the Habs scored 1 goal or less in 3 of the 5 finals games including 0 in the elimination game... They definitely couldn't of used more scoring touch...
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 13 @ 8:00 PM ET
Yeah the Habs scored 1 goal or less in 3 of the 5 finals games including 0 in the elimination game... They definitely couldn't of used more scoring touch...
- MattStrat


You seem to be arguing against him even though you are agreeing with him
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:11 PM ET
You seem to be arguing against him even though you are agreeing with him
- 10inchTerror

It’s sarcasm bud.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
It’s sarcasm bud.
- Feds91Stammer


🤷🏻‍♂️
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
I'd target Hyman and Saad (maybe Tatar) at forward and Suter on defense. Suter would be a good defensive partner for Marino.

Crazy how close we came to getting Suter and Parise years ago... probably would've costed us 2016 and 2017, but maybe we win it in 2013 or 2014?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
🤷🏻‍♂️
- 10inchTerror


A shrug emoji? Are you a thirteen year old girl?
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
4th period says Kings are looking for another top 6 wing 🤔 I wonder who may have one of those to spare
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
I'm not really in the Tanev must be traded boat, but his contract definitely sucks for what he brings. I think there are other contracts that I'd prefer to get out of:

Zucker
Matheson
Jarry
Pettersson
Tanev

I think you can get what Tanev brings for cheaper than 3.5m for 5yrs.

would probably be the order I'd prefer to get rid of, Tanev being the least that I want to move.

- j.boyd919

I agree with you. The only guys I wouldn't move for the right price are Crosby and Malkin, but Tanev isn't high up on my priority list of guys I want to move. I would say that Tanev is the guy I'd be most willing to move out of the guys I don't really want to move, but there's a really big gap between Zucker/Matheson/Jarry/Pettersson and him in my opinion. There's probably another big gap between him and the next tranche of guys in ZAR/Blueger/McCann, though.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
Honestly, I wouldn't have minded him trying McCann with Geno. McCann is a shooter and a quality shooter at that. Gives Geno a shooter and a rush scorer in Kap.
- j.boyd919

The real drivers of that McCann-Carter-Zucker line were actually Carter and Zucker. Those two had really visible chemistry and I think McCann was pretty replaceable on that line. If Zucker stays, I want him on Carter's line. McCann-Geno-Kapanen were a pretty darn good line themselves too.

We really don't NEED to move Zucker, it all boils down to how stubborn Sullivan wants to be.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
A shrug emoji? Are you a thirteen year old girl?
- Rinosaur


Calm down tough guy. Don’t hurt those keys.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:34 PM ET
4th period says Kings are looking for another top 6 wing 🤔 I wonder who may have one of those to spare
- kfinl170


Rust and Pettersson for some draft picks. I like Rust but why not trade him now and use his cap for a younger top 6?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:42 PM ET
Rust and Pettersson for some draft picks. I like Rust but why not trade him now and use his cap for a younger top 6?
- nateca444


Too difficult an idea.

How are you going to acquire the younger top 6? With middling draft picks? That move is dependent on the first trade.

Pens are a better team with Rust and adding on top of him.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:47 PM ET
Too difficult an idea.

How are you going to acquire the younger top 6? With middling draft picks? That move is dependent on the first trade.

Pens are a better team with Rust and adding on top of him.

- j.boyd919


You don't think Rust and Pettersson are worth a 2nd and 3rd?
I'm just looking at the bigger picture if Rust walks for nothing next year.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
You don't think Rust and Pettersson are worth a 2nd and 3rd?
I'm just looking at the bigger picture if Rust walks for nothing next year.

- nateca444

In theory if we traded Rust and added someone else who panned out well, the Pens would wish they had a 1st to acquire someone like Rust at the deadline to put them over the top.

Boyd is right, you add ontop of Rust in one of Sid and Geno’s last years. If he walks for nothing then oh well. A couple of picks don’t have a high probably of accelerating the rebuild.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 13 @ 10:13 PM ET
I agree with that list, although I may have Matheson above Zucker but that's just splitting hairs haha.
- 668710

If they could move Matheson, I might even keep Pettersson. I'm open to upgrading on him, but he's solid with Marino.

Marino w/ Pettersson: 51.27 xGF in 427 min
Pettersson without: 51.97 xGF in 449 min
Marino without: 44.72 xGF in 286 min
Marino w/ Matheson: 44.38 xGF in 245 min

Dropping a LHD for cap space is a move they need to make, but they could do worse then Pettersson.
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