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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Connor McDavid is gonna ask Duncan Keith what the secret is to winning the Stanley Cup, and Keith is gonna tell him it's efficient cap management, and McDavid is gonna cry.

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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
I like what they're doing, completely revamping their system and going with young players. For a lot of years they tried to be competitive and were never able to accomplish anything, why not try to do something different.
- LeftCoaster

adding monstrous amounts of dead cap in a flat cap world?

how do they work out their long term cap projections based on the uncertainty of the economic landscape and now with an additional 20-ish% in dead cap.

even worse is that the cap crunch comes in 2-3 years and not right away, meaning that they'll have to shed cap rather than just going with a lower cap right now to get it over with.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Would you buy low on Eberle from the Isles as a top 6 forward? NYI need to move $.
- 1970vintage


He is a good player. This next two weeks are going to be big for Canucks and every team. I think a lot of movement is going to happen. This could be one of the most exciting offseason in decades with the flat cap and E Draft.

See who gets bought out or trade . Would you take Tyler Johnson and Foote as the add?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
Who else is left from those giant recapture contracts? Weber, is that it?
- 1970vintage

Not sure, just heard Pekka Rinne retired.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
I think they would be more open to move Leddy.
- Reubenkincade


Leddy isn’t a top 6 forward? I think they need to sign Beauvillier (RFA?), Pelech (RFA) and Sriorokin (sp?).
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
adding monstrous amounts of dead cap in a flat cap world?

how do they work out their long term cap projections based on the uncertainty of the economic landscape and now with an additional 20-ish% in dead cap.

even worse is that the cap crunch comes in 2-3 years and not right away, meaning that they'll have to shed cap rather than just going with a lower cap right now to get it over with.

- RealityChecker

They're obviously looking at the future, not the present, as in five plus years out. We'll see how it works out for them.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
adding monstrous amounts of dead cap in a flat cap world?

how do they work out their long term cap projections based on the uncertainty of the economic landscape and now with an additional 20-ish% in dead cap.

even worse is that the cap crunch comes in 2-3 years and not right away, meaning that they'll have to shed cap rather than just going with a lower cap right now to get it over with.

- RealityChecker


Full on rebuild?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
Who else is left from those giant recapture contracts? Weber, is that it?
- 1970vintage



Shea Weber
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
Good to see another team finally feel the heat for those 50 year long contracts


Teams are making up franking illnesses, and Vancouver is the only one that gets punished.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
Full on rebuild?
- 1970vintage

Looks that way. Once you commit to it you've gotta follow through with it and hope it works out the best for you. They've got Brackett, he'll draft them some gems
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:11 PM ET
Good to see another team finally feel the heat for those 50 year long contracts


Teams are making up franking illnesses, and Vancouver is the only one that gets punished.

- classic321

That's on Luongo, he wanted to retire instead of go on LTIR, despite having hip issues. He screwed both the Canucks and to a lesser extent Florida.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
They're obviously looking at the future, not the present, as in five plus years out. We'll see how it works out for them.
- LeftCoaster

to both you and vints, i was going to add:

unless you are ready to take on a decade long rebuild, it doesn't make sense.

if that's what they're doing, good for them for setting a course of action and taking it. i still think that even if they are going for rebuild, why not just keep the players and let the contracts run out?

if it's a decade long rebuild, how do the contracts hurt the cap if you're not going to spend to it anyway? the players are generally regarded as good in the room (though i'm open to hearing otherwise) so why not keep the minnesota natives (i think both are) around to build team culture?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
to both you and vints, i was going to add:

unless you are ready to take on a decade long rebuild, it doesn't make sense.

if that's what they're doing, good for them for setting a course of action and taking it. i still think that even if they are going for rebuild, why not just keep the players and let the contracts run out?

if it's a decade long rebuild, how do the contracts hurt the cap if you're not going to spend to it anyway? the players are generally regarded as good in the room (though i'm open to hearing otherwise) so why not keep the minnesota natives (i think both are) around to build team culture?

- RealityChecker

Years three and four they get hammered but I guess that's a risk they're willing to take on. Years five and on aren't that bad.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:15 PM ET
Connor McDavid is gonna ask Duncan Keith what the secret is to winning the Stanley Cup, and Keith is gonna tell him it's efficient cap management, and McDavid is gonna cry.

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- LeftCoaster

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
Looks that way. Once you commit to it you've gotta follow through with it and hope it works out the best for you. They've got Brackett, he'll draft them some gems
- LeftCoaster


Brackett is the most overrated scout ever.
Although, he is good at drafting American kids who are clueless when it comes to playing defense ie; Jordan Schroeder, Adam Gaudette, Brock Boeser(who is only just learning). Then you have the Joe Labate types. Ya, Great scout.

Lol
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
More than 50 per cent of eligible Canadians are now fully vaccinated - CTV News

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I think we've caught up to the USA
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:16 PM ET
That's on Luongo, he wanted to retire instead of go on LTIR, despite having hip issues. He screwed both the Canucks and to a lesser extent Florida.
- LeftCoaster

yet people here still want to welcome him back with open arms


(frank) that guy
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
Year three and four they get hammered but I guess that's a risk they're willing to take on. Years five and on aren't that bad.
- LeftCoaster

you're right.

but that's also another drawback in my opinion.

how do you set a cap, meaning sign players long term, when you've got a very substantial decrease in cap for a 2/3 seasons.

that's what i meant that it would have been easier to have the cap hit right now and be able to get it over with.

it's going to be harder to set a roster/cap projection when the cap goes (roughly) 80, 80, 67, 67, 80ish. that dip in the middle will make them have to get very creative. imo, they just made it more difficult on themselves without getting much beneifit. they get more cap space right now, but for what? if they are going for a full rebuild, what is to be gained from extra cap space for 2 seasons?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:20 PM ET
yet people here still want to welcome him back with open arms


(frank) that guy

- Nucker101


I would say shocking but it really isn't . Gillis Kesler and Luongo should be put in a capsule and shot into space.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
I will say Sutter signs in Chicago or Winnipeg. Parise sails off unto the sunset.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:22 PM ET
More than 50 per cent of eligible Canadians are now fully vaccinated - CTV News

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I think we've caught up to the USA

- LeftCoaster

for canadians, it's always been about the availability of the vaccine.

for americans, it's always been about the availability of quality education.

it's not surprising that what canada needed arrived first.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
Brackett is the most overrated scout ever.
Although, he is good at drafting American kids who are clueless when it comes to playing defense ie; Jordan Schroeder, Adam Gaudette, Brock Boeser(who is only just learning). Then you have the Joe Labate types. Ya, Great scout.

Lol

- Reubenkincade

He was simply an amateur scout back then, he was in charge of nothing lol. That's like blaming Phil Golding for drafting Olli Juolevi or Kole Lind
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
ustin Emerson
@J15Emerson
· 8m
Protecting Matt Dumba in expansion drafts has now basically cost the Wild Alex Tuch, Erik Haula, Ryan Suter and Zach Parise
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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
ustin Emerson
@J15Emerson
· 8m
Protecting Matt Dumba in expansion drafts has now basically cost the Wild Alex Tuch, Erik Haula, Ryan Suter and Zach Parise
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- VANTEL

Fletcher is as dumb as Benning, and now he's running the Flyers
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
He was simply an amateur scout back then, he was in charge of nothing lol. That's like blaming Phil Golding for drafting Oli Juolevi
- LeftCoaster


You Brackett cum-guzzlers like to give him credit as some super-duper scout, just who do you give him credit for scouting?
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