Sure anyone is trade able but at what cost....you realize that 4M cap space has to be used to replace him and what type player are you getting for 4M???. Not like Flyers have forward prospects knocking on the door. I am in agreement I want JV out of here IMO he is a big part of the laziness we see from the team which isnt a good influence on the younger players. I disagree that he is a good player.
- hfc355

The thought that Voracek would be easy to trade in today's NHL environment is extremely out of touch. I think Voracek is a good offensive player. I don't think he is a good all around player.

Sure anyone is trade able but at what cost....you realize that 4M cap space has to be used to replace him and what type player are you getting for 4M???. Not like Flyers have forward prospects knocking on the door. I am in agreement I want JV out of here IMO he is a big part of the laziness we see from the team which isnt a good influence on the younger players. I disagree that he is a good player.
- hfc355

Like I said there’s pro’s / con’s to Jake. Honestly I don’t look at it as have to replace him or his production. We have plenty of players. His 60ish points and less than 20 goals won’t be missed in grand scheme of things. Even if they replaced him with 4 mil player that puts up 40 points what are we really losing? The faster g/Jake/ghost/Jvr/coots (for assets) gone the better. IMO

The thought that Voracek would be easy to trade in today's NHL environment is extremely out of touch. I think Voracek is a good offensive player. I don't think he is a good all around player.
- MJL

Jake a good offensive player …. At 4 mil…. Yeah surely that’s out of touch in today’s nhl. Laughable how dense you are. Ok smarty what’s the going rate for a player that’s “not a good all around player” but good offensively? 1 mil? 2 mil?

The thought that Voracek would be easy to trade in today's NHL environment is extremely out of touch. I think Voracek is a good offensive player. I don't think he is a good all around player.
- MJL

For Jake to get traded the flyers are absolutely eating a decent amount of his salary.
While this would leave question marks in the lineup in the grand scheme of things I think this is what the team needs.
Of course the flyers aren’t the only team that wants to unload a high salary.
Would a team like Pittsburgh at least listen to a phone call? Jake playing with Crosby or Malkin could be beneficial.
The problem is I’m pretty sure the pens don’t have cap space.
Just using them as an example. If a team has already established high end players and can absorb Jake’s cap hit to some degree I can see it as possible.
I agree a trade would not be easy but these are the deals that good GM’s find a way to get done without mortgaging your team.

I believe it will be either Hagg or most likely Braun that are selected

For Jake to get traded the flyers are absolutely eating a decent amount of his salary.
While this would leave question marks in the lineup in the grand scheme of things I think this is what the team needs.
Of course the flyers aren’t the only team that wants to unload a high salary.
Would a team like Pittsburgh at least listen to a phone call? Jake playing with Crosby or Malkin could be beneficial.
The problem is I’m pretty sure the pens don’t have cap space.
Just using them as an example. If a team has already established high end players and can absorb Jake’s cap hit to some degree I can see it as possible.
I agree a trade would not be easy but these are the deals that good GM’s find a way to get done without mortgaging your team.
- bird_dog_pa

Either eating a good amount of salary or taking back a bad contract. There are a lot of teams that are looking to shed salary. There are a lot of teams that aren't looking to add salary and take on 3 more years of a players contract. That's adds up to a difficult player to trade in the current environment. Not impossible but difficult.

For Jake to get traded the flyers are absolutely eating a decent amount of his salary.
While this would leave question marks in the lineup in the grand scheme of things I think this is what the team needs.
Of course the flyers aren’t the only team that wants to unload a high salary.
Would a team like Pittsburgh at least listen to a phone call? Jake playing with Crosby or Malkin could be beneficial.
The problem is I’m pretty sure the pens don’t have cap space.
Just using them as an example. If a team has already established high end players and can absorb Jake’s cap hit to some degree I can see it as possible.
I agree a trade would not be easy but these are the deals that good GM’s find a way to get done without mortgaging your team.
- bird_dog_pa

Jake + Pick / JOB type prospect to Vancouver for Schmidt + Sutter

Like I said there’s pro’s / con’s to Jake. Honestly I don’t look at it as have to replace him or his production. We have plenty of players. His 60ish points and less than 20 goals won’t be missed in grand scheme of things. Even if they replaced him with 4 mil player that puts up 40 points what are we really losing? The faster g/Jake/ghost/Jvr/coots (for assets) gone the better. IMO
- Stayin alive

The last 40ish point a yr player we signed is costing us 7.125M a yr for 7 yrs

I believe it will be either Hagg or most likely Braun that are selected
- Bayareaflyer

I would agree and throw NAK in that mix but my pick is Hagg

The thought that Voracek would be easy to trade in today's NHL environment is extremely out of touch. I think Voracek is a good offensive player. I don't think he is a good all around player.
- MJL

It’s not just jake but in general with the flat cap especially with not knowing when it will be lifted. Now into the second year, teams that were anticipating the rise and therefore added space for contracts hurts.

Jake + Pick / JOB type prospect to Vancouver for Schmidt + Sutter
- Bayareaflyer

Sutter is a UFA

Sutter is a UFA
- MJL

Yes - make that the contract rights to Sutter - if he signs cheaply ok if not bye

Yes - make that the contract rights to Sutter - if he signs cheaply ok if not bye
- Bayareaflyer

Sutter is not a player that you trade contract rights for. He might have a hard time finding a job this summer.

Sutter is not a player that you trade contract rights for. He might have a hard time finding a job this summer.
- MJL

Agree - anything around $1M I would like to see him on our 4th line. Also wouldn't mind Roussel if he could stay healthy. Team needs more truculence

It's a guarantee that he does not sign with the Flyers and he goes to free agency.
- MJL

That is a sad statement.

I have questions as to how you could know that about Seth Jones. If you don’t know that, why you would suppose that. It is just Seth Jones or do you think this about every prospective RHD with one year left before UFA?

If it really is that certainty of a negative outcome, I have questions about the strength of the Flyers future. No sense in looking at any needle-moving UFAs if they for certain will not sign here. Look for RHD in trade with 3 or more years term because if not it is just the same Groundhog Day search every 1 to 2 years. Start drafting or acquiring top RHD prospects to begin developing immediately.

It's a guarantee that he does not sign with the Flyers and he goes to free agency.
- MJL

Nothing is a guarantee. Hayes didn’t want to be a Flyer.

Nothing is a guarantee. Hayes didn’t want to be a Flyer.
- Flyers1218

The reports that Hayes did not want to be a Flyer were erroneous and never came from Hayes. Jones has made it abundantly clear through his agent to many credible public sources that if traded, he will not sign an extension. I'm not sure how many times he needs to say before he is believed.

That is a sad statement.

I have questions as to how you could know that about Seth Jones. If you don’t know that, why you would suppose that. It is just Seth Jones or do you think this about every prospective RHD with one year left before UFA?

If it really is that certainty of a negative outcome, I have questions about the strength of the Flyers future. No sense in looking at any needle-moving UFAs if they for certain will not sign here. Look for RHD in trade with 3 or more years term because if not it is just the same Groundhog Day search every 1 to 2 years. Start drafting or acquiring top RHD prospects to begin developing immediately.
- NC Flyers Fan

In today's age, equivocation = negation, enthusiasm = normalcy. If those are the kind of statements coming out of the SJ camp, that's as good as a warning shot across the bows.

That is a sad statement.

I have questions as to how you could know that about Seth Jones. If you don’t know that, why you would suppose that. It is just Seth Jones or do you think this about every prospective RHD with one year left before UFA?


- NC Flyers Fan

How would I know that? Seriously? It's common knowledge that he won't re-sign and will test free agency. Not just the Flyers but with any team. With the possible exception of the Avalanche.

If it really is that certainty of a negative outcome, I have questions about the strength of the Flyers future. No sense in looking at any needle-moving UFAs if they for certain will not sign here. Look for RHD in trade with 3 or more years term because if not it is just the same Groundhog Day search every 1 to 2 years. Start drafting or acquiring top RHD prospects to begin developing immediately.
- NC Flyers Fan

It is not a general statement regarding all UFA's and really has nothing to do with the Flyers and everything to do with Jones repeated stated desire to go to free agency.

The reports that Hayes did not want to be a Flyer were erroneous and never came from Hayes. Jones has made it abundantly clear through his agent to many credible public sources that if traded, he will not sign an extension. I'm not sure how many times he needs to say before he is believed.
- MJL

It came from sources connected to Hayes agent that he didn’t particularly want to play in Philadelphia. You know when he said it wasn’t true? During his press conference when he got paid.

I don’t how many times it has to be said, but money talks. Start talking his language in terms of cash and he won’t be testing anything.

For example….. I’m just so sure Bryce Harper wanted to be a Phillie over a Dodger. All the talk connected to Harper was he did not want to go to Philadelphia and was willing to wait to see what was out there. Phillies ponied up to “stupid” money and alas, one of the most overpaid players in baseball.

Boy this free agency period gonna be really boring. With flat cap. Actually false. Those who think the movement will be severely hampered remember your comments. Ask yourselves when does ANYTHING stop gm’s from doing anything? Every year with silly contracts given out. I can’t wait to see how many Fa get more than 4mil and 3 years. And how many are worse than Jake. Guaranteed to be at least a few.

Jake at 4 mil/3years is peanuts to a team looking for some added vet scoring. PEANUTS. and if all you gotta trade is something like a 7th round pick?

Girl you crazy if you think it would be hard to trade Jake.

The question remains… DO THE FLYERS WANT A REAL CHANGE AND EAT 4MIL/3YEARS?

Sure if you can get a better deal go ahead. That’s what would be difficult.

To elaborate: trading Jake in package no retention of salary or straight up hard

Trading Jake just 25% still hard

Trading retaining 50% not hard. Can easily be done

It came from sources connected to Hayes agent that he didn’t particularly want to play in Philadelphia. You know when he said it wasn’t true? During his press conference when he got paid.

I don’t how many times it has to be said, but money talks. Start talking his language in terms of cash and he won’t be testing anything.

For example….. I’m just so sure Bryce Harper wanted to be a Phillie over a Dodger. All the talk connected to Harper was he did not want to go to Philadelphia and was willing to wait to see what was out there. Phillies ponied up to “stupid” money and alas, one of the most overpaid players in baseball.
- Flyers1218

Hayes himself said he never said he wouldn't sign in Philly. They were false rumors. The Harper situation is not relative. It is common knowledge that Jones is going to test free agency and that any team trading for him, is doing so for a one year rental.

Boy this free agency period gonna be really boring. With flat cap. Actually false. Those who think the movement will be severely hampered remember your comments. Ask yourselves when does ANYTHING stop gm’s from doing anything? Every year with silly contracts given out. I can’t wait to see how many Fa get more than 4mil and 3 years. And how many are worse than Jake. Guaranteed to be at least a few.

Jake at 4 mil/3years is peanuts to a team looking for some added vet scoring. PEANUTS. and if all you gotta trade is something like a 7th round pick?

Girl you crazy if you think it would be hard to trade Jake.

The question remains… DO THE FLYERS WANT A REAL CHANGE AND EAT 4MIL/3YEARS?

Sure if you can get a better deal go ahead. That’s what would be difficult.
- Stayin alive

I absolutely do not want pay $4 million a year for three years for the guy to play against the Flyers. That’s not change, that’s idiocy

How would I know that? Seriously? It's common knowledge that he won't re-sign and will test free agency. Not just the Flyers but with any team. With the possible exception of the Avalanche.

It is not a general statement regarding all UFA's and really has nothing to do with the Flyers and everything to do with Jones repeated stated desire to go to free agency.
- MJL

No it’s just a rumor. The report assumed to have been leaked by the agent has to do with negotiations tactics. It’s also been denied by his mother that he made a decision already only go to the AVs or definitely go to UFA. It has also been reported that the Bluejackets will allow the Jones camp to meet with serious trade partners in order to expedite a deal. This meeting could give clubs a better idea of their likelihood to extend. Personally, I hope that the Flyers are still in the running.

https://www.thefourthperi...lping-to-facilitate-trade

Hayes himself said he never said he wouldn't sign in Philly. They were false rumors. The Harper situation is not relative. It is common knowledge that Jones is going to test free agency and that any team trading for him, is doing so for a one year rental.
- MJL

His agent through the numerous outlets had that fact out. Seth Jones has never come out and said he wouldn’t sign an extension. The numerous outlets are reporting the information being leaked by his representation. lol, you can try to spin it all you want. You talk $56-60 million over 8 years and watch how fast Jones doesn’t “test the market”.