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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 9:22 PM ET
Tampa Bay.....
- Jkuzzi

A very short list indeed lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
If that’s for EP then I’d do 8/8.5m
- Nighthawk

Term is the new form of cash with these new contracts.

I would not be shocked to see EP get 8 years I mean after all...he will finish his career here.

Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jul 9 @ 9:28 PM ET
A very short list indeed lol
- Nighthawk

See the last like 5 winners man

Pitt
Sid Geno Letang Fleury Murray

Wash
Ovie Backstrom Holtby Kuz

Tampa
All of them almost

Chicago

Kane Toews Seabroom Keith Crawford niemi I believe

LA

Kopitar Brown Dought Martinez quick


Yuo drafting gets you nowhere...... that's just off the top of my head but the core is there on every team pretty easy to see


Oh sorry also

Bergeron Krecji Marchand Pastranak Krug Carlo McAvoy etc. They did trade for risk when he was a kid but you get the point jackass
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:28 PM ET
If that’s for EP then I’d do 8/8.5m
- Nighthawk

Rantanen, Mikko COL Sep 28, 2019 22 6 2019-25 Standard RFA UFA RW Left 239 209 11.35% $9,250,000

Marner, Mitchell TOR Sep 13, 2019 22 6 2019-25 Standard RFA UFA RW Right 241 224 13.38% $10,903,000

Canucks got it backwards, I would be giving Petey the long term deal. Not as high as Marner much closer to Rantanen.

Hughes is a less complete player than Petey is. Short term with Hughes to see if he can figure out his defence.

There's no (frank)en way Petey is going to sign anywhere near 8.5M for 8 years. Maybe 5 years?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:30 PM ET
Tampa Chicaga LA Pitts Washington Boston.


For the love of God don't get into semantics about the complimentary players that help win cause the meat of all those teams were drafted and developed.

- Jkuzzi


If you check the teams have about 5 high drafts and about 2-3 lower value draft picks , a couple of trades and a small amount of UFAs

Canucks this year used Petey Hughes Hoglander Boeser Horvat as high draft picks . They will be adding Podz next year.

They also used Rathbone Juolevi Jake Edler as four lesser . Then you can add the even lesser Gadj Lind and Lockwood.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jul 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
If you check the teams have about 5 high drafts and about 2-3 lower value draft picks , a couple of trades and a small amount of UFAs

Canucks this year used Petey Hughes Hoglander Boeser Horvat as high draft picks . They will be adding Podz next year.

They also used Rathbone Juolevi Jake Edler as four lesser . Then you can add the even lesser Gadj Lind and Lockwood.

- VANTEL


Yeah I know. But you were saying winners don't have draft picks on their team. I beg to differ based in results.

I don't think our players are good enough based on finishing last in the worst div in the league but I am open to optimism coming in. They way you won is manage the cap and draft well. Colorado will win a cup of two the next five years maybe Vegas.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
Yeah I know. But you were saying winners don't have draft picks on their team. I beg to differ based in results.

I don't think our players are good enough based on finishing last in the worst div in the league but I am open to optimism coming in. They way you won is manage the cap and draft well. Colorado will win a cup of two the next five years maybe Vegas.

- Jkuzzi


Colorado looked pretty ineffective IMO against VGK. VGK got beat by the Habs . I am not sure you can say they were the weakest division if they didn't play against each other.

Vancouver had a really bad year . Lets see if they bounce back.

For the record every team uses at least 5 of their best draft picks not just the cup winners.

I didn't even include Zack Gaudette Chatfield or Rafferty on that list. Our draft picks are still very young .
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:04 PM ET
Jannik Hansen for GM

“Hansen on Schmidt: If he wants out, get rid of him. You don't want him in your dressing room then.

(650)”
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 9 @ 10:04 PM ET


There's no (frank)en way Petey is going to sign anywhere near 8.5M for 8 years. Maybe 5 years?

- manvanfan


Why is he better than Draisaitl?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 10:05 PM ET
Just finished golf, I suck but still won $12....any buyouts today?
NightBeast
Location: Darkville
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 9 @ 10:07 PM ET
Jannik Hansen for GM

“Hansen on Schmidt: If he wants out, get rid of him. You don't want him in your dressing room then.

(650)”

- LeftCoaster


Jannik Hansen for hockeybuzz monitor
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:16 PM ET
Rantanen, Mikko COL Sep 28, 2019 22 6 2019-25 Standard RFA UFA RW Left 239 209 11.35% $9,250,000

Marner, Mitchell TOR Sep 13, 2019 22 6 2019-25 Standard RFA UFA RW Right 241 224 13.38% $10,903,000

Canucks got it backwards, I would be giving Petey the long term deal. Not as high as Marner much closer to Rantanen.

Hughes is a less complete player than Petey is. Short term with Hughes to see if he can figure out his defence.

There's no (frank)en way Petey is going to sign anywhere near 8.5M for 8 years. Maybe 5 years?

- manvanfan

Those are precovid contracts.

Idk about 8yrs maybe 6 but predict a bridge. So as to cash in big once cap rises.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:19 PM ET
It speaks columns
- VANTEL

I blame old eyes!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:20 PM ET
See the last like 5 winners man

Pitt
Sid Geno Letang Fleury Murray

Wash
Ovie Backstrom Holtby Kuz

Tampa
All of them almost

Chicago

Kane Toews Seabroom Keith Crawford niemi I believe

LA

Kopitar Brown Dought Martinez quick


Yuo drafting gets you nowhere...... that's just off the top of my head but the core is there on every team pretty easy to see


Oh sorry also

Bergeron Krecji Marchand Pastranak Krug Carlo McAvoy etc. They did trade for risk when he was a kid but you get the point jackass

- Jkuzzi


Not arguing but again a short list.

Our core…

Petey Demko Bo Boeser Hughes
-Pod still a wait & see.
All those winners had the D other than Pitt by committee. Our D is what makes us a lotto or bubble team. It’s a matter of who & when is added to the D before we can be a perennial PO team let alone contend.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 10:20 PM ET
I blame old eyes!
- K-man25


Preaching to the choir
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:21 PM ET
Yeah I know. But you were saying winners don't have draft picks on their team. I beg to differ based in results.

I don't think our players are good enough based on finishing last in the worst div in the league but I am open to optimism coming in. They way you won is manage the cap and draft well. Colorado will win a cup of two the next five years maybe Vegas.

- Jkuzzi

Our roster isn’t nearly good enough the core is coming along just fine.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:24 PM ET
On VGK their offence was their achilles heal no different than the scare we gave them. A well built team with speed & D but choked.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Managing the cap is all about layering. Drafting is the 1st component. Getting good C’s & D saves cap from not signing UFA’s for key pieces & use of ELC years if the pipeline is there. Most difficult to do with D & inevitable that only drafting them is not only time consuming but unlikely.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:39 PM ET
Going hard at RHD UFA’s would be the best option. Need 2. Problem is the timing & cap space. Something ‘AGGRESSIVE’ is needed to be done whether over 1 or 2 years. This UFA crop has some pickins. Trading is an option but not deep in assets.

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:50 PM ET
You called.
- Reubenkincade


That’s Mister Noitall to him.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:58 PM ET
I find that idiocy isn't relative to one fan base. It's spread across the league. I love watching the Flames and Oilers fans at work chop each other down. It's hilarious. One Flames fan even said 'I knew the Oilers would get swept' Unreal they just can't wait to pull out the 'I told you so's'.

We have Leafs and Habs fans too it's quite the dynamic. But ultimately none of them cheered for the Nucks in the 2011 cup run but we are all expected to cheer for any CDN team that makes the final. Basically...they can all go f*uck themselves.

- LordHumungous

I think sometimes it’s mistaken for passion.

Oh by the way, I was cheering for the Canucks in 2011. AV got out coached in that one. Bruins played like bullies and he tells his team the refs will take care of business. That’s the way I saw it, maybe it was my red glasses that created that To say no one else was cheering for them is ridiculous.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:07 PM ET
Lots of sand in peoples orifices today huh?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
Lots of sand in peoples orifices today huh?
- A_SteamingLombardi

51 years of failure, and the beat goes on
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:36 PM ET
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:39 PM ET
51 years of failure, and the beat goes on
- LeftCoaster

I'm really enjoying the apathy, I can't be disappointed or happy with what Benning does.
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