Keep in mind it would have been a better pick if we didn't have JTM. I dunno how much... but he was a big contributor.
- SMP8719

Buffalo mode.

Cost only a 3rd not much imo but reliant on what Schmidt is traded for or if a substantial rebound.
- Nighthawk

Players like that are free during free agency.

Miller was a win. Next up for another key piece would follow that up nicely. Yes differing opinions out there for sure.

Giving up a controlled ELC pick magnifies the importance.
- Nighthawk

It is this line of thinking that makes me post

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve

Also same for you…

Could you be patient with the rebuild without Miller? Top 6 wingers were not very deep at all.
- Nighthawk

I’ve been saying patience since the plethora of 2nd rounders started flying out the door. We’re nearly a decade in and I still want patience, just a little patience.

They’re not deep because they had no patience.

Hindsight is the fans go to & what makes them think they are smarter than real hockey ppl.

Woulda coulda shoulda is such an easy cop out.

So no Miller trade & the fanbase already a miserable lot would embrace the rebuild & pain? Sure as feck not. Waste Bo’s years & others is the result.

Beat me to it
- SMP8719

Butterfly something something, Tim Stutzle

Yeah but from the comments I have seen on here you very easily could be drafting Gaunce all over again at 9
- VANTEL

Not unless MG is back lol

The 20oa pick for Miller

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=225854

Is that a game changer or worth it?
- Nighthawk

Why does every player have to be a game-changer?

Butterfly something something, Tim Stutzle
- 1970vintage

Podkolzin

Hindsight is the fans go to & what makes them think they are smarter than real hockey ppl.

Woulda coulda shoulda is such an easy cop out.

So no Miller trade & the fanbase already a miserable lot would embrace the rebuild & pain? Sure as feck not. Waste Bo’s years & others is the result.
- Nighthawk

FFS!

That Schmidt trade really showed me how dumb not only Benning is, but how smart this fanbase is.
- Reubenkincade

Why does every player have to be a game-changer?
- Reubenkincade

Miller was & is a big help. The 20oa is only an unknown prospect.

Name a team that was built through the draft in the cap era.

Would this nutty fanbase be the usual or show patience & for how long?

Buffalo mode.
- VANTEL

Another team like the Oilers squandering high picks.

Aah ok. What would be your tune without him & waiting on the 20oa pick to develop?

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=225854

Would you show your usual patience or move on to another gripe?
- Nighthawk

What makes you think he would have been the pick that the team made and as Vintsy says, without Miller the team wouldn't have been where they were, which was an average team.

Miller was & is a big help. The 20oa is only an unknown prospect.

Name a team that was built through the draft in the cap era.

Would this nutty fanbase be the usual or show patience & for how long?
- Nighthawk

Eight years and we've been asked for 2 more.

The 20oa pick for Miller

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=225854

Is that a game changer or worth it?
- Nighthawk

Realistically we don't pick top 10 without Miller that year, Marky was playing that good. So let's assume we don't win a lotto pick.
We offer Miller today for what ever kid was picked from 10oa onward that Benning would have selected, and ask for a 3rd to replace the one we paid, and that team will do it and laugh all the way to the bank.

Miller was a great acquisition and well worth what we gave up.

Buffalo mode.
- VANTEL

Not saying I am against it. Just stating the pick would have been higher... I think they could also deal JTM in his last year at TDL for what they paid, if they can't sign him.

Miller was & is a big help. The 20oa is only an unknown prospect.

Name a team that was built through the draft in the cap era.

Would this nutty fanbase be the usual or show patience & for how long?
- Nighthawk

TBL either drafted or signed undrafted players for most of their top 9, but traded for pretty much their whole D outside Hedman.

Realistically we don't pick top 10 without Miller that year, Marky was playing that good. So let's assume we don't win a lotto pick.
We offer Miller today for what ever kid was picked from 10oa onward that Benning would have selected, and ask for a 3rd to replace the one we paid, and that team will do it and laugh all the way to the bank.

Miller was a great acquisition and well worth what we gave up.
- Retinalz

I still like your idea Nylander for Juolevi

Did I upset you because I don't like shiny Hughes, or is it because I express my opinion openly and don't give a fuck what others think.
- Reubenkincade

Since you asked.

I have been lurking here for 15 years and your level of discourse usually brings the hockey discussion down to infantile levels. You, for the most part, ruin my reading experience. Other than that I have no problems with you.

Not saying I am against it. Just stating the pick would have been higher... I think they could also deal JTM in his last year at TDL for what they paid, if they can't sign him.
- SMP8719

Maybe higher but no guarantees.

Question is is Miller a better asset now or was the pick whomever JB was to take?

Miller was & is a big help. The 20oa is only an unknown prospect.

Name a team that was built through the draft in the cap era.

Would this nutty fanbase be the usual or show patience & for how long?
- Nighthawk

How about 2 time defending cup Champs, Tampa Bay Lightning.

What makes you think he would have been the pick that the team made and as Vintsy says, without Miller the team wouldn't have been where they were, which was an average team.
- Reubenkincade

No point in thinking only who WAS picked at 20.

Where the team would’ve been we’ll never know. I don’t have a crystal ball for Back to the Future lol

Eight years and we've been asked for 2 more.
- Marwood

Yes that is hard to argue against 😂

How about 2 time defending cup Champs, Tampa Bay Lightning.
- Reubenkincade

Hindsight.