Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
Obviously. Stupid or not, I'm just speaking from a point that we really don't know what Hextall has planned. To assume that GM's don't have their own agenda and won't make irrational moves to execute their agenda would be peak stupidity lol.
I thought Hextall had a conservative deadline and made a wise move, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but again, we really don't know yet. - Rinosaur
Zucker and Jake for Bertuzzi and Rasmussen |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
Zucker and Jake for Bertuzzi and Rasmussen - Feds91Stammer
What's the skinny on Rasmussen? I know he was a high pick a few years back, but is he on track to be anything decent?
|
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
What's the skinny on Rasmussen? I know he was a high pick a few years back, but is he on track to be anything decent? - Rinosaur
He sucks. Was a poopty pick in the first place. But at least he’s tall. |
|
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
|
|
|
It was briefly mentioned a few weeks ago, but with Tarasenko officially requesting out, a Zucker-centered package for Tarasenko could be an interesting proposition if the Blues don't want to go into full rebuild so shortly removed from a Cup win. The cap gamble for the Pens isn't insignificant given that Tarasenko's shoulder might be toasted beyond repair, but if Hextal and Burke aren't confident that they'd be able to do anything high impact enough with any theoretical cap they generate by offloading some combination of Zucker, Pettersson, and Matheson, this could be a high reward move. |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
He sucks. Was a poopty pick in the first place. But at least he’s tall. - Feds91Stammer
Ok, then let's just do Zucker for Rasumussen lol
|
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
It was briefly mentioned a few weeks ago, but with Tarasenko officially requesting out, a Zucker-centered package for Tarasenko could be an interesting proposition if the Blues don't want to go into full rebuild so shortly removed from a Cup win. The cap gamble for the Pens isn't insignificant given that Tarasenko's shoulder might be toasted beyond repair, but if Hextal and Burke aren't confident that they'd be able to do anything high impact enough with any theoretical cap they generate by offloading some combination of Zucker, Pettersson, and Matheson, this could be a high reward move. - Victoro311
I was thinking along very similar lines. STL is going to struggle to get a high quality return given the injury issues and cap hit for Tarasenko, so I don't think they'd get high quality futures for him. I think the best they could hope for is the closest thing to a lateral move as possible and I think a Zucker/Tarasenko swap is that deal. I'd like to see STL eat some salary to maybe even it out, say $1Mish, but if they have to add on to make that happen I say no way.
It's a gamble that I think may make sense for the Pens. If all he really needed was a long recovery and fresh start (because who knows how much his unhappiness weighed on his play), then seeing him next to Geno could be a great thing. |
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
I was thinking along very similar lines. STL is going to struggle to get a high quality return given the injury issues and cap hit for Tarasenko, so I don't think they'd get high quality futures for him. I think the best they could hope for is the closest thing to a lateral move as possible and I think a Zucker/Tarasenko swap is that deal. I'd like to see STL eat some salary to maybe even it out, say $1Mish, but if they have to add on to make that happen I say no way.
It's a gamble that I think may make sense for the Pens. If all he really needed was a long recovery and fresh start (because who knows how much his unhappiness weighed on his play), then seeing him next to Geno could be a great thing. - Rinosaur
Lol at the Schenn, Krug, Faulk, and Binnington contracts. |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
Lol at the Schenn, Krug, Faulk, and Binnington contracts. - Feds91Stammer
We give our own team a lot of crap for the Tanev contract, but the Pens pale in comparison to the number of teams that have doubled down on stupid contracts.
Every team has at least one questionable contract and if Tanev is ours, then I'm totally fine. |
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
Ok, then let's just do Zucker for Rasumussen lol - Rinosaur
I could work with that. Then Bertuzzi for Dunn and Tarasenko. And sign Tatar. |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
I could work with that. Then Bertuzzi for Dunn and Tarasenko. And sign Tatar. - Feds91Stammer
I'll get Hex on the horn. Isn't Rasmussen exempt? |
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
I'll get Hex on the horn. Isn't Rasmussen exempt? - Rinosaur
Nah he’s just not worth taking. |
|
awtr
|
|
|
Joined: 06.03.2020
|
|
|
I was thinking along very similar lines. STL is going to struggle to get a high quality return given the injury issues and cap hit for Tarasenko, so I don't think they'd get high quality futures for him. I think the best they could hope for is the closest thing to a lateral move as possible and I think a Zucker/Tarasenko swap is that deal. I'd like to see STL eat some salary to maybe even it out, say $1Mish, but if they have to add on to make that happen I say no way.
It's a gamble that I think may make sense for the Pens. If all he really needed was a long recovery and fresh start (because who knows how much his unhappiness weighed on his play), then seeing him next to Geno could be a great thing. - Rinosaur
Zucker + Riikola for Vlad. |
|
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: Wampum, PA Joined: 01.20.2014
|
|
|
Guentzel has turned into a morning glory.
The horse racing term. Get your dirty minds out of the gutter. |
|
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA Joined: 10.05.2005
|
|
|
Nah he’s just not worth taking. - Feds91Stammer
Feds, in your opinion, what do you think it would cost the Pens in term and $ to get Tatar wearing a #90 uniform here? |
|
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Joined: 10.08.2019
|
|
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
Feds, in your opinion, what do you think it would cost the Pens in term and $ to get Tatar wearing a #90 uniform here? - stevens87
No clue. Definitely depends on what his team tells him. Do you risk it and take 1 x 2.5m? Do you take certainty on a 4 x 4m? Do you go cup chasing? |
|
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
|
|
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
|
|
|
|
|
The difference between the Matheson and Petterson contracts is that Matheson played up to his contract last season while Petterson fell well short. Matheson's contract is good right now (apparently) but probably bad long term. Petterson's contract is bad right now and shows little promise to ever be worth it.
So would you rather have a fast second pairing defenseman at $4.875M until 2026 or a defensemen who already appears to be a bust at $4.025M until 2025? If you give Seattle this choice they will almost certainly take the former, leaving the Pens still stuck with Petterson and less one good defenseman.
Yes, the Matheson deal is bad long term but long term the Pens might have lots of freed up cap space. I think the Pens should protect Matheson despite the high risk of his contract.
Realistically, though, Seattle will probably take a forward. If we are lucky it will be Zucker. |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
The difference between the Matheson and Petterson contracts is that Matheson played up to his contract last season while Petterson fell well short. . - PghPens668771
This narrative needs to stop. People have it out for Pettersson and the reasoning is just not accurate.
Realistically, though, Seattle will probably take a forward. If we are lucky it will be Zucker. - PghPens668771
We all kind of assume the same thing, but we really don't know. So much will depend on what other teams will have available to Seattle. Maybe they see other forwards they like better and decide to take a dman. We really won't know until we see the field. |
|
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
|
|
|
It was briefly mentioned a few weeks ago, but with Tarasenko officially requesting out, a Zucker-centered package for Tarasenko could be an interesting proposition if the Blues don't want to go into full rebuild so shortly removed from a Cup win. The cap gamble for the Pens isn't insignificant given that Tarasenko's shoulder might be toasted beyond repair, but if Hextal and Burke aren't confident that they'd be able to do anything high impact enough with any theoretical cap they generate by offloading some combination of Zucker, Pettersson, and Matheson, this could be a high reward move. - Victoro311
Zucker and Petts for Tenk and Dunn |
|
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
|
Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
|
|
|
Zucker and Petts for Tenk and Dunn - 668710
Is STL looking to move Dunn?
|
|
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: NJ Joined: 07.05.2010
|
|
|
Zucker and Petts for Tenk and Dunn - 668710
Lol |
|
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: NJ Joined: 07.05.2010
|
|
|
Is STL looking to move Dunn? - Rinosaur
Yeah they can’t protect him unless they went 8 skaters |
|
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
|
|
|
Lol - kfinl170
Hahaha, may as well toss it their way. Try something. We can leave Matheson exposed then if it happens. |
|
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins |
|
Location: NJ Joined: 07.05.2010
|
|
|
Hahaha, may as well toss it their way. Try something. We can leave Matheson exposed then if it happens. - 668710
Pretty sure he’ll be left exposed regardless |
|