Will be interesting to see how much of that team they will be able to keep toguether.

Savard is gone and they will lose another good D most likely (to Seattle).
- deadpoulet

I would assume Gourde (Picked by Seattle) and Johnson (traded with sweetner) are gone. Foote comes in full time to be the Savard replacement.

At the same time, Allen may not have been in the playoffs, but we wouldn't have been even close without him.

And the top 4? We wouldn't have made the finals without them eating minutes like they did.

Sad thing? Part of me wonders if sitting KK was a strategy to get him to sign a cheaper bridge contract. It's easy to look back and judge, but with KK being such an important part of our future? Last night, having to watch? Must have sucked HARD.
- Darksyde

I agree with your comments on Allen and the top 4 and still wouldn't use a 1st round pick to prevent Searrle from potentially picking them. Wouldn't even consider it. Asset mismanagement in my view.

I think they sat Kotkaniemi because they thought it was their best chance to win and think it had nothing to do with his contract. I don't agree with it but I don't think it was nefarious either

let's say Seattle picks Allen, do they trust Primeau to be the back up next season?
- deadpoulet

Lot of FA goalies out there if not

I would assume Gourde (Picked by Seattle) and Johnson (traded with sweetner) are gone. Foote comes in full time to be the Savard replacement.
- AdamFrench

So Gourde over Cernak and mcdonagh? Gourde is a great player, true.

Others teams will make them pay big time if they want to trade Johnson.

They may have to lose Palat or Killorn.

As an aside, I'll say this: NHL better be looking for a replacement for Gary Bettman. He's not looking well, and I've said that since the last draft. I don't wish him ill, but better to replace him before it's it's an emergency necessity.

As an aside, I'll say this: NHL better be looking for a replacement for Gary Bettman. He's not looking well, and I've said that since the last draft. I don't wish him ill, but better to replace him before it's it's an emergency necessity.
- Darksyde

is he that old? I wouldn't mind a change. I don't think he's evil either.

I agree with your comments on Allen and the top 4 and still wouldn't use a 1st round pick to prevent Searrle from potentially picking them. Wouldn't even consider it. Asset mismanagement in my view.

I think they sat Kotkaniemi because they thought it was their best chance to win and think it had nothing to do with his contract. I don't agree with it but I don't think it was nefarious either
- Takemedrunkimhome

If we were picking based on our regular season standing? I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. But we've essentially got a high second because of our post-season play. Given Timmins record? That's a risk I'd be willing to take.

As an aside, I'll say this: NHL better be looking for a replacement for Gary Bettman. He's not looking well, and I've said that since the last draft. I don't wish him ill, but better to replace him before it's it's an emergency necessity.
- Darksyde

Didn't acknowledge the cup finalist. He usually does it, but the mean Canadiens have beaten his precious Golden Knights. Also took a shot at the fact Montréal didn't have a packed arena.

He's going to get an earful on draft day in 2022.

So Gourde over Cernak and mcdonagh? Gourde is a great player, true.

Others teams will make them pay big time if they want to trade Johnson.

They may have to lose Palat or Killorn.
- deadpoulet

Hadn't thought about McD. He's an interesting choice because there's no way you leave Cernak at his age exposed. It's just that McD is pretty old and has been broken down a lot and plays a game that will probably hurt longevity.

I think the most interesting thing will be if teams do the dumb poop of overpaying their UFA grinders like Coleman, Goodrow etc.

Didn't acknowledge the cup finalist. He usually does it, but the mean Canadiens have beaten his precious Golden Knights. Also took a shot at the fact Montréal didn't have a packed arena.

He's going to get an earful on draft day in 2022.
- stinger67

is he that old? I wouldn't mind a change. I don't think he's evil either.
- deadpoulet

Not so much that, he's been literally shaky. Dunno if it's Parkinson's, or just getting old (he's 69...heh), but as the public head of the NHL? It's better for the brand if he is replaced as the head, and maybe takes more of a behind-the-scenes role.

I think he just isn't aware of what a hockey market really is.
- stinger67

"Waaaah, they have fans who actually give a (frank) and I'm jealous. Waaaah"

Same comment, different words. It was just a defense mechanism for obvious jealousy so it shouldn't upset people. It still will but in my opinion it shouldn't

- AdamFrench

yeah, that probably makes his small wrinkled pecker semi-soft.

If we were picking based on our regular season standing? I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. But we've essentially got a high second because of our post-season play. Given Timmins record? That's a risk I'd be willing to take.
- Darksyde

Chiarot has one year left and a lot of fans want a PMD. You need to free up some $$$ and a spot to do that.

I see your logic but Vegas became a contender because teams kept dealing with them. I wouldn't.

let's say Seattle picks Allen, do they trust Primeau to be the back up next season?
- deadpoulet

He's an option, but I think they'd try and get another experienced backup again.

Just needs to be a good one and not some plug.

- AdamFrench

If we were picking based on our regular season standing? I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. But we've essentially got a high second because of our post-season play. Given Timmins record? That's a risk I'd be willing to take.
- Darksyde

A 1st is a 1st. A 2nd is a 2nd. I'll never understand the "it's essentially a high 2nd" stuff. Either way it's a high pick and too valuable to retain a non core asset. If you're avoiding picking due to TT's record then replace TT, don't trade the pick

A 1st is a 1st. A 2nd is a 2nd. I'll never understand the "it's essentially a high 2nd" stuff. Either way it's a high pick and too valuable to retain a non core asset. If you're avoiding picking due to TT's record then replace TT, don't trade the pick
- Takemedrunkimhome

Plus, the draft is going to be even more of a crapshoot this season. So, maybe they stumble onto something good at 31st?

I know, I'm reaching a bit. Tough to see the positives this morning.

I agree with your comments on Allen and the top 4 and still wouldn't use a 1st round pick to prevent Searrle from potentially picking them. Wouldn't even consider it. Asset mismanagement in my view.

I think they sat Kotkaniemi because they thought it was their best chance to win and think it had nothing to do with his contract. I don't agree with it but I don't think it was nefarious either
- Takemedrunkimhome

30th pick overall would not a be completly aberrant evaluation of the value of Chiarot or Allen in a trade, imo. Their contracts are reasonable for what they provide.

"Waaaah, they have fans who actually give a (frank) and I'm jealous. Waaaah"

Same comment, different words. It was just a defense mechanism for obvious jealousy so it shouldn't upset people. It still will but in my opinion it shouldn't
- Takemedrunkimhome

Our 3500 at their quietest were louder than most US arenas. Sad but true. It brings to light the saying that in Montreal you don't just become a hockey fan. It's a religion. And we are some zealous mother(frank)ers!

Plus, the draft is going to be even more of a crapshoot this season. So, maybe they stumble onto something good at 31st?

I know, I'm reaching a bit. Tough to see the positives this morning.
- stinger67

30th. Thanks Chayka.

Can't make emotional decisions just because of a fun playoff run. Need to sober up and make rational decisions for the future now

30th pick overall would not a be completly aberrant evaluation of the value of Chiarot or Allen in a trade, imo. Their contracts are reasonable for what they provide.
- Réal_Ruelle

I think we're losing Chiarot.

He's the most valuable guy for Seattle, both on the ice and on what he could fetch if they end up trading him.

A 1st is a 1st. A 2nd is a 2nd. I'll never understand the "it's essentially a high 2nd" stuff. Either way it's a high pick and too valuable to retain a non core asset. If you're avoiding picking due to TT's record then replace TT, don't trade the pick
- Takemedrunkimhome

Chiarot was our most used player during the playoffs. He's a core player.

But he has one year left on his deal, so unless Weber retired or something, he's gone.

30th pick overall would not a be completly aberrant evaluation of the value of Chiarot or Allen in a trade, imo. Their contracts are reasonable for what they provide.
- Réal_Ruelle

- Darksyde

Dozens of people who agree with me or dozens of available Chiarot and Allen?