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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: Bridging Truculence and Analytics for A More Likeable Roster (Pt. 2)
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atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:02 PM ET
I see that being the most likely case. Ecc.
Went to a Yankees game when both stadiums were standing next to each other.

You think there's a likely chance of playing a season or 2 at penn state or Toronto?

- Boss34


I think it would be a mistake to go Toronto or Penn St. Especially since ecc already said it can't support its current facilities. I thought I heard somewhere they were talking a stadium where the seats are covered but it's open air. The hockey arena will be a request soon too I would think...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:02 PM ET
It's a rumor. Maybe it's not the entire campus. Who knows?
- buffalofan19

I know, it was talked about on here maybe last week, I guess it could happen, just think it would be difficult. Still have all those houses going down Big Tree Rd on the backside of the College. People who own property on Abbott Rd that park cars there. Guess we just wait and see. Definitely would be interesting.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:04 PM ET
I don't need a coach hired tomorrow either, but if Granato is the guy, you have to know it by now. It seems disingenuous if nothing else.
- buffalofan19



I agree, but Adams has a LOT on his plate (he's got his country's 500th anniversary to plan, his captain to trade, his captain's co-pilot to trade, his wedding to arrange, his wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. He's swamped).

Hopefully he sheds some light (if Granato's interim tag is removed) on why the announcement took so long.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
Fify
- Michael Pachla

Just think he would want more say in the Stadium and what is in it.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:07 PM ET
Wasted money then, I mean the Kats Stadium is there and just over a year ago the refurbished the gym there and made it a 12,000 Sq ft indoor sports facility.
- Buff36


I hear governments never waste money...


/s
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:08 PM ET
Just think he would want more say in the Stadium and what is in it.
- Buff36

Maybe...I'm pretty cynical when it comes to things like that. Taxpayers usually foot most of the bill.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Wasted money then, I mean the Kats Stadium is there and just over a year ago the refurbished the gym there and made it a 12,000 Sq ft indoor sports facility.
- Buff36


Probably incorporate the stadium / maybe the facility too?
Practice/ Sponver youth games?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
I see that being the most likely case. Ecc.
Went to a Yankees game when both stadiums were standing next to each other.

You think there's a likely chance of playing a season or 2 at penn state or Toronto?

- Boss34

I always thought that the likelihood of other locations had more to do with the lease with the county being a one-off more than location/space problem. I have to think they can work something out. Until something concrete happens, I am going to assume Toronto and Happy Valley are just brainstorming for options if a worst case scenario occurs, and nothing more.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
Maybe...I'm pretty cynical when it comes to things like that. Taxpayers usually foot most of the bill.
- Michael Pachla

Why Jerry Jones paid for most of his new stadium. Taxpayers only paid 325mill of it. And the Pegula's supposedly have hired a Company owned by Jones to help with planning.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
Why Jerry Jones paid for most of his new stadium. Taxpayers only paid 325mill of it. And the Pegula's supposedly have hired a Company owned by Jones to help with planning.
- Buff36


Arlington also has a pretty robust stadium tax, plus the breaks they got. It's more than $325 million.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
I hear governments never waste money...


/s

- Wetbandit1

Especially a broke Erie County
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
I like Donnie, too. No, I'm not and have never been worried that he'll be "stolen" from us. And I'm not one of those on here who thinks Adams is incompetent because he's taking his time. He may ultimately prove his incompetence in other ways, lol, but taking your time on your first official NHL hire isn't a problem for me. He can take another month for all I care.

Just. Get. it. Right.

- Powerslave


Excellent post

I'm fairly positive in regards to the Sabres. It's funny how angry everyone is. Fellow sth, friends and family.

Everybody is at an all time low.

I'm looking forward to Casey, cozens, and dahlin becoming professionals. Likeable 2nd core with asplund, joker, borgen, olo, Samuelson....

Hope we get a byfield, petterson, hughes, dach "hope" in return
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
Did you not read the whole comment? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?
- Wetbandit1


Obtuse đŸ»
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
I think it would be a mistake to go Toronto or Penn St. Especially since ecc already said it can't support its current facilities. I thought I heard somewhere they were talking a stadium where the seats are covered but it's open air. The hockey arena will be a request soon too I would think...
- atlsabsfan


I would hate to not go to "home" games when we are finally good -

The arena is really outdated and dirty. I'm not sure what the end game is? Always thought a dual downtown, public funded massive infrastructure attached to the harbor center. Or outer harbor?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
Why Jerry Jones paid for most of his new stadium. Taxpayers only paid 325mill of it. And the Pegula's supposedly have hired a Company owned by Jones to help with planning.
- Buff36

*shrugs*
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
I would hate to not go to "home" games when we are finally good -

The arena is really outdated and dirty. I'm not sure what the end game is? Always thought a dual downtown, public funded massive infrastructure attached to the harbor center. Or outer harbor?

- Boss34

I'd hate to lose the OP atmosphere. Super fun and very unique
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:23 PM ET
Maybe...I'm pretty cynical when it comes to things like that. Taxpayers usually foot most of the bill.
- Michael Pachla


I agree, but the pegula's did put up unprecedented money into the harbor center.

The pegula's are a different situation IMO.

They are surely going to want restaurants ect.
Gotta pay to play....

Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
If it’s up to me, the stadium would be built on the northwest corner of 5 and 77. Kitty corner to Kim Pegula is a Brickhouse Corner. Cashless Tolls just opened the door to a thruway exit into the stadium parking lot. Only way the facility survives is by maxing out the seats, you’re not making revenue from luxury suites no matter where u put it. If you drop, the capacity to like 50,000 so you can put it in the city, there will be a lot of empty seats. No offense, but downtown Buffalo isn’t very nice. Place never changes. Just gets older more run down looking. It’s like listening to the Edge, which I do from time to time. They’re playing the same songs that were played when I left.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:26 PM ET
I agree, but the pegula's did put up unprecedented money into the harbor center.

The pegula's are a different situation IMO.

They are surely going to want restaurants ect.
Gotta pay to play....

- Boss34

As long as someone else runs them. 716 was sold to Southern Tier. PSE fail
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:28 PM ET
Arlington also has a pretty robust stadium tax, plus the breaks they got. It's more than $325 million.
- buffalofan19

I see Arlington paid 325m, Jerry paid 875m and the NFL gave 150m, maybe taxes are different in some way, but Jerry still flipped a lot of money into it. But it could be a lot different for the Pegulas, maybe they won't want to put as much money in because they aren't gonna host 200-300 different events a year in a Stadium around here.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:29 PM ET
Appreciate the clarification
- washedup20


No, you obviously don’t & just wanna troll

Have a good night
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:30 PM ET
I'd hate to lose the OP atmosphere. Super fun and very unique
- Michael Pachla

Downtown tailgating sucks. I prefer California Ave myself. Sucked they closed off stadium access to those lots. Walking down and up the ravine really provided a good gauge for how baked you were before going into the game.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:34 PM ET
Excellent post

I'm fairly positive in regards to the Sabres. It's funny how angry everyone is. Fellow sth, friends and family.

Everybody is at an all time low.

I'm looking forward to Casey, cozens, and dahlin becoming professionals. Likeable 2nd core with asplund, joker, borgen, olo, Samuelson....

Hope we get a byfield, petterson, hughes, dach "hope" in return

- Boss34



Watch him throw the entire hockey universe a curve ball and keep Jack, Sam, hire Boudreau, trade Risto, trade for Elvis, Gaudreau, sign Savard...😂
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:36 PM ET
I see Arlington paid 325m, Jerry paid 875m and the NFL gave 150m, maybe taxes are different in some way, but Jerry still flipped a lot of money into it. But it could be a lot different for the Pegulas, maybe they won't want to put as much money in because they aren't gonna host 200-300 different events a year in a Stadium around here.
- Buff36


I’m sure there will be A LOT of taxpayer $$$ involved in the new stadium
That’s just the way it goes

And it’ll likely be downtown
Which will be sweet
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
As long as someone else runs them. 716 was sold to Southern Tier. PSE fail
- Michael Pachla


Pandemic probably being part of the failure.

The labatt house is really cool. Great place to tailgate.

I agree with the atmosphere in op vs. Downtown.

The bars would be packed, but tailgating would probably still exist.

They do currently allow tailgating in the op stadium lots, maybe nothing would change?
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