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savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
So you know this as fact? Did you hear this from JJ's source?
- powerenforcer

Mo heard it directly from Bob.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
So you know this as fact? Did you hear this from JJ's source?
- powerenforcer


Just put two and two together, PE, it is obvious. Connect the Dots.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
Just put two and two together, PE, it is obvious. Connect the Dots.
- mohel


So you are saying when I make a statement it is true? I knew you would eventually see it my way.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 24 @ 3:22 PM ET
The Canucks GM has stats he wants to bring more size and strength to their defense. Stan needs to immediately pick up the phone and call Benning to unload Zadorov.
- DarthKane

Stan needs to call him early in the morning before Benning has had his meds. I think that's how he got Hobey Baker winner Gaudette for Highmore.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
Seeing all of the centers listed out like that...we do have a lot, and I spaced about Borgstrom. Who out of those are really projected to be top 6, though?. Dach, yes. Maybe Kurashev, reichel, or borgstrom become that, but I still think they should pad that position a bit in their prospect pool.

One thing I have noticed about Bowman, is that he loads up on the types of players that they are missing, and then waits for the cream to rise to the top. That's why I think they will pick a center again this draft with that #11. He has been loading up on centers lately, ones with any top 6 potential. Although with that list, maybe he has enough now. If that is the case, I bet he goes with a winger, possibly RW.

- ToewsdNKanefusd


It seems that he has loaded up on guys that play C/W. Reichel, Suter, Kurashev, Dach (I believe he played quite a bit of wing previously, but I could be wrong). He's signed Shaw, Carpenter, etc. The only problem is that they never seem to get a really GOOD center out of it. That is why I'm hoping that Borgstrom rises to the top.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:04 PM ET
Virtanen is under investigation for abuse charges i believe.
- Scott1977


He would fit right in.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:05 PM ET
He'll fit right in.
- mohel



Lol. Beat me to it.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 4:21 PM ET
Watch, if Benning takes Zadorov, Stan will get Holtby
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
So you know this as fact? Did you hear this from JJ's source?
- powerenforcer

We are JJ’s sources!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Z and a 4th to the Canucks for Ferdland 2x3.5M, Beagle 1x3M, Virtanen and their 1st. They need the cap space to sign Hughes and Pettersen and net about 5.5M in the deal.

Hawks get the 9th pick and another project in Virtanen.

- boilermaker100


Hard no on Virtanen.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Hard no on Virtanen.
- DarthKane

Why, something wrong with his toobin?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
This. He needs surgery on his neck that wasn't approved by the organization. That says a lot.
- Popsghostly


He wants surgery on his neck and that wasn't approved by the org.

The organization wants him to do rehab and rest and probably some steroid injections to see if it calms down. They probably should have sat him for more of the season with the discomfort he was in rather than allow it to spiral down to this level.

The player wants an operation and doesn't want to treat it conservatively. Which seems like it comes down to an artificial disk vs a fusion. The fake disk has had really good outcomes with patients with degenerative disk issues. Not a lot of data for athletes. Usually with the athletes they end up with a fusion since its been around a lot longer and they kind of know what to expect one way or the other.

At least in the published studies the disk replacement has produced better outcomes from a range of motion perspective and needing additional operations statistics. The recovery time is shorter for disk replacement as well. Very well documented, its not like he's requesting some type of outlandish bleeding edge treatment to be performed on him.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Hard no on Virtanen.
- DarthKane

So Darth what realistic trade with Vancouver would make sense? No sarcasm allowed. Toughy
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
He wants surgery on his neck and that wasn't approved by the org.

The organization wants him to do rehab and rest and probably some steroid injections to see if it calms down. They probably should have sat him for more of the season with the discomfort he was in rather than allow it to spiral down to this level.

The player wants an operation and doesn't want to treat it conservatively. Which seems like it comes down to an artificial disk vs a fusion. The fake disk has had really good outcomes with patients with degenerative disk issues. Not a lot of data for athletes. Usually with the athletes they end up with a fusion since its been around a lot longer and they kind of know what to expect one way or the other.

At least in the published studies the disk replacement has produced better outcomes from a range of motion perspective and needing additional operations statistics. The recovery time is shorter for disk replacement as well. Very well documented, its not like he's requesting some type of outlandish bleeding edge treatment to be performed on him.

- fattybeef


Plus the fusion usually leads to future fusions down the road (at least in the back). Not sure if that is the same for the neck.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:38 PM ET
So Darth what realistic trade with Vancouver would make sense? No sarcasm allowed. Toughy
- Scott1977


Likely draft picks. Vancouver won’t part with their top prospects (rightfully so). Maybe DiPietro would be worth it (plus a later pick).

I could see Holtby coming back if Vancouver is willing to pay more.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:53 PM ET
Likely draft picks. Vancouver won’t part with their top prospects (rightfully so). Maybe DiPietro would be worth it (plus a later pick).

I could see Holtby coming back if Vancouver is willing to pay more.

- DarthKane

Ok i could see holtby coming back plus Eriksson for the 9th overall and 2nd deprieto for the 11th overall pick. Hawks get another goalie prospect move up 2 spots and gain a 2nd in this years draft or next .
NamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.04.2017

Jun 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
Sounds too much like a Bettman thing, but he hates Chicago so he wouldn't want to help them. Unless he steps down and McD becomes commish, then this would have his fingerprints all over it.
- powerenforcer

Please tell me this is sarcasm
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 24 @ 8:48 PM ET
Please tell me this is sarcasm
- NamedSource

You obviously don’t know Powerenforcer, I’m pretty sure he’s a card carrying QAnon member.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 24 @ 8:54 PM ET
He be a better option did not say Vegas would trade him. Plus there was a proposed trade last offseason strome for tuch straight up but bowman wanted a prospect or pick for taking tuch's contract.
- Scott1977

No there wasn't. It was a trade proposed on here. If I'm wrong provide proof. This Talk about this non Tarde is so stupid.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 24 @ 8:55 PM ET
Seeing all of the centers listed out like that...we do have a lot, and I spaced about Borgstrom. Who out of those are really projected to be top 6, though?. Dach, yes. Maybe Kurashev, reichel, or borgstrom become that, but I still think they should pad that position a bit in their prospect pool.

One thing I have noticed about Bowman, is that he loads up on the types of players that they are missing, and then waits for the cream to rise to the top. That's why I think they will pick a center again this draft with that #11. He has been loading up on centers lately, ones with any top 6 potential. Although with that list, maybe he has enough now. If that is the case, I bet he goes with a winger, possibly RW.

- ToewsdNKanefusd

Reichel is a winger
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Jun 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
You obviously don’t know Powerenforcer, I’m pretty sure he’s a card carrying QAnon member.
- paulr
One has to hope....without hope we are doomed...like GPHawksfan
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:23 PM ET
No there wasn't. It was a trade proposed on here. If I'm wrong provide proof. This Talk about this non Tarde is so stupid.
- GPHawksfan

Ok i might be mistaken just trying to figure the best way hawks can take advantage of the LTRI to benefits them. They are going have to take a bad contract or two to gain more assets.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 24 @ 9:31 PM ET
Cue Darth…
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
Cue Darth…
- Angotti


Whatever do you mean?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Whatever do you mean?
- DarthKane

Ha ha, something about #22…
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