Nope, he is the last one on the team that should have been displaying that kind of attitude.

I realize it's not that simple but he should have been told to sit and have been traded right then and there. If for nothing else as the symbol to the team that it doesn't matter who you are or where your from, the me first stuff is not part of what they're trying to build. Nip that poop in the bud immediately.
- joel878

He had already lost millions no?
Didnt get that signing bonusi believe

sure, and the leafs also have the same amount of success as the Sabres and Red Wings in that time frame.

leafs are a flawed roster......you're closer to a tear down rebuild than you are to a cup win.
- haywoodjablome

Ok

I knew Matthews and Marner would be really good players.

Again there was a time Marner was more important than Matthews according to some on here.
- Santo_44

You just didn't think Matthews would be as good as he is?
I still don't know why you felt Marner is/was more important than Matthews..

He had already lost millions.
- Fakepartofme

Greedy Marner already lost money on his ELC...what losing some more money right?

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- AdamFrench

The top one is Matthews. The bottom one is probably Eichel.

Matthews>Eichel

To me, what's dumb is the Marner took that personally. Matthews was the 1st overall pick, Marner wasn't. Matthews is a C, which has more value than a winger..

I'm not bothered by Lou doing that.. In reality, he treated Marner no different than any other draft pick he's made outside of Matthews.. What bothers me, is that Marner felt he needed to be treated differently.. Which is part of the problem... That 'me first' attitude of his.

Even after the 1st rd loss, that story about Marner not willing to change how he plays on the PP, is another indicator of his me first attitude
- PatC80

I saw it as a red flag at the time, to get a very favorable deal in the first place based on what he'd done and then to twist the knife for a couple hundred grand a year? At that point it seemed like he was more about the money and had a sizeable ego. To demand something from a contract he signed his name to showed a lack of character IMO.

He had already lost millions no?
Didnt get that signing bonusi believe
- Fakepartofme

You can't lose what you signed a contract agreeing not to have.

You just didn't think Matthews would be as good as he is?
I still don't know why you felt Marner is/was more important than Matthews..
- PatC80

Nope.

I was hoping for Anze Kopitar as that was his comparable according to most scouts.

Glad they were wrong.

I didn't but go look at the boards from 3 years ago.

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

I remember hoping for 9.5M per season

You can't lose what you signed a contract agreeing not to have.
- joel878

The point is he signed that with the intentions to drive a hard bargain on his next deal.

Which is exactly what happened.

Matthews wasn't supposed to be this good? Really? Matthews was considered a generational, franchise-changing prospect when he was drafted.

You think Marner earned his bonuses based off of his junior career?
- PatC80

He wasnt considered generational at all.
Just elite

The top one is Matthews. The bottom one is probably Eichel.

Matthews>Eichel
- Steven_Seagull

Both were insane as 16/17 year olds.

I remember hoping for 9.5M per season
- PatC80

Same
9.5 x6

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

I'm not going to repost what I said on page 8, but I think I nailed it:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...p?thread_id=161843&page=8

sure, and the leafs also have the same amount of success as the Sabres and Red Wings in that time frame.

leafs are a flawed roster......you're closer to a tear down rebuild than you are to a cup win.
- haywoodjablome

Well as far as idiotic statements go, I'll give this one an 11.































Out of 5..

You can't lose what you signed a contract agreeing not to have.
- joel878

Oh ffs.
Everyone knew mm wasnt gonna give any special deala to the leafs after not getting the elc bonus.
We just weren't expecting dubas to give out so much

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

Seems like people had their sanity still.

"a bit too much but manageable"

Oh ffs.
Everyone knew mm wasnt gonna give any special deala to the leafs after not getting the elc bonus.
We just weren't expecting dubas to give out so much
- Fakepartofme

Dubas stood fast with Nylander.

Why wouldn't he let lil' Mitchy and his dad sweat it out for a month or two?

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

I was ridiculously on point as always.

Drop the puck.

one thing Dubas was able to do was stabalize the D...look at this from mitchy signing day

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- Hockey_Reverend

Dubas stood fast with Nylander.

Why wouldn't he let lil' Mitchy and his dad sweat it out for a month or two?
- Atomic Wedgie

Butt hurtt would have been fabulous.

Dubas stood fast with Nylander.

Why wouldn't he let lil' Mitchy and his dad sweat it out for a month or two?
- Atomic Wedgie

There was belief it would make dubas look bad and not be in control. Kinda a rookie gm at that time.

Oh ffs.
Everyone knew mm wasnt gonna give any special deala to the leafs after not getting the elc bonus.
We just weren't expecting dubas to give out so much
- Fakepartofme

Oh. Cause phrases like "I don't want to play anywhere else" isn't really about special deals as much as it's largely an indicator that you don't intend on butt (frank)ing the entire franchise.

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

Meh, not much to see there, looks like most people thought it was a bit much but hopeful he could live up to it. Pretty similar to what it is now except he hasn't lived up to it playoff wise. Generally just happy that he would be back for the season.

He wasnt considered generational at all.
Just elite
- Fakepartofme

Agree to disagree?