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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Off-season hindsight; Not going all-in for Pietrangelo was a mistake
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
If the Leafs don't make the Conference Finals next season he's got to be done.

Right?

- mjones242

I thought you guys said this last off season?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
I thought you guys said this last off season?
- gergeswillems


But this time we are super serial.

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
Pietrangelo was never going to Toronto. He was going to Vegas regardless of any offer made
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Your first mistake was reading the blog brah.

Don't let it happen again, got it? Good.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
I have no idea what he is worth.

The fact the Leafs paid a first+ to acquire him for playoffs implies he is worth at least 3 million.

But less term and money sounds better to me. I would just rather we have some form of depth rather than filling the lienup with 5 or 6 players who make 1 million or less.

- Leafs43



It really does not have any indication of future contracts at all
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
Brodie had more goals and Pietro through the first round and defense was hardly the issue against the Habs as we all know. So far on a stacked Vegas team with Pietro scoring 3 goals the Knights are down 2 to 1 in the series, that “leadership” better start coming through soon.

We all know what the issue was against the Habs, the top 2 players on the Leafs were not able to out perform the top players on the Habs, when then happens you generally lose a 7 game series.

- 13sundin13


Everybody is getting beat up by a “washed up” Carey Price. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But who needs a real good goalie, we’re gonna head into next year with studs not scoring and duds hoping to keep the puck outta the net.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
According to Jack Han, the best D offered was Brandon Montour for Nylander.

WE are so reactionary. Pietrangelo was overall ok this year, but not great. The Habs might go to the finals, and I'd pick them to miss the playoffs next year. 3 out of 4 remaining teams are very flawed.

- RogerRoeper

I know Roger Ramjet. Leafs are perfect. Dubas is a God. No bad contracts. Every other team in the NHL sucks and have no Cap. They're all screwed. Other than the Leafs of course.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:18 PM ET
According to Jack Han, the best D offered was Brandon Montour for Nylander.

WE are so reactionary. Pietrangelo was overall ok this year, but not great. The Habs might go to the finals, and I'd pick them to miss the playoffs next year. 3 out of 4 remaining teams are very flawed.

- RogerRoeper


Roger the curse has spoken.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
Everybody is getting beat up by a “washed up” Carey Price. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Garnie

Yep. That was the narrative.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
I know Roger Ramjet. Leafs are perfect. Dubas is a God. No bad contracts. Every other team in the NHL sucks and have no Cap. They're all screwed. Other than the Leafs of course.
- gergeswillems


He’s gotta be Jimmy Tan Tan.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
Brodie had more goals and Pietro through the first round and defense was hardly the issue against the Habs as we all know. So far on a stacked Vegas team with Pietro scoring 3 goals the Knights are down 2 to 1 in the series, that “leadership” better start coming through soon.

We all know what the issue was against the Habs, the top 2 players on the Leafs were not able to out perform the top players on the Habs, when then happens you generally lose a 7 game series.

- 13sundin13


Did Brodie help the PP? He had 1 goal in 7 games vs Habs. Leafs PP blows.

Pietrangelo would improve the PP by a lot.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
The Gull says the Leafs are trading Marner for Eichel and placing him on LTIR until the playoffs start. Sign Dougie. Trade Rielly for Jones. Sign Oleksiak.
- gergeswillems

In addition to the Marner for ECHL trade, we could put Snake on LTIR too and sign Dougie, Landeskog, Hall, Foligno, and trade for Lehner.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
I thought you guys said this last off season?
- gergeswillems

Shh, you.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
He’s gotta be Jimmy Tan Tan.
- Garnie

While they're both Leaf homers, Roger recently referenced the 2002 Cup winning Red Wings. There's no way Jimmy Tanner could ever do this. Instead he'd tell us which underrated band was the greatest ever. Worm Candy. Ever heard of them? Me neither.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
In addition to the Marner for ECHL trade, we could put Snake on LTIR too and sign Dougie, Landeskog, Hall, Foligno, and trade for Lehner.
- mjones242

Video game roster! 🤣
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
According to Jack Han, the best D offered was Brandon Montour for Nylander.

WE are so reactionary. Pietrangelo was overall ok this year, but not great. The Habs might go to the finals, and I'd pick them to miss the playoffs next year. 3 out of 4 remaining teams are very flawed.

- RogerRoeper

Lol
Very flawed eh roger?
Just walk away, please stop ok oppo max?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yep. That was the narrative.
- gergeswillems


Anyone who underestimates Cary "when it counts" Price is a fool.

He's always stepped up on the big stage. Injuries and the grind of playing way too many games has been his downfall...

... but these low-octane grinder teams will always do well in the playoffs. People will laugh, but how hard OTT played? I think they could do some damage in the playoffs... gotta get there first though.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Lol
Very flawed eh roger?
Just walk away, please stop ok oppo max?

- Fakepartofme

Let me guess...

Isles have a roster full of bad contracts and have no Cap!

Habs are not good. They're riding a hot goalie. But they don't have any elite players like the Leafs do and are in cap hell!

Vegas is weak at C and have no cap!
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
It really does not have any indication of future contracts at all
- RogerRoeper


I'm probably high on the number.

But the fact that there were so many teams bidding for Foligno for the playoffs does imply that a lot of teams will be bidding for him as a UFA, which would push his price up.

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
In addition to the Marner for ECHL trade, we could put Snake on LTIR too and sign Dougie, Landeskog, Hall, Foligno, and trade for Lehner.
- mjones242


Nah, Snake as our eventually 3C will be a Good Thing (tm) for many years. He's an elite grinder like Crosby (not as good as Crosby, but similar player) and those guys do fine down the home stretch of their career.

It's laser-beam-on-wheels kind of players that don't age as well.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
Lol
Very flawed eh roger?
Just walk away, please stop ok oppo max?

- Fakepartofme


Yes, Habs, Isles, and Knights are juggernaughts
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
Let me guess...

Isles have a roster full of bad contracts and have no Cap!

Habs are not good. They're riding a hot goalie. But they don't have any elite players like the Leafs do and are in cap hell!

Vegas is weak at C and have no cap!

- gergeswillems


When you can take a team that is devoid of hi-end star power, get them to commit to a (defensive/hard-working) game plan, look out.

There is far too much parity in the NHL to take any team for granted if they're buying into something.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
I'm probably high on the number.

But the fact that there were so many teams bidding for Foligno for the playoffs does imply that a lot of teams will be bidding for him as a UFA, which would push his price up.

- Leafs43


Their perception might now change given what a bust he was. His highlight as a Leaf was wearing that old, smelly 93 cap at a press conference
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Yes, Habs, Isles, and Knights are juggernaughts
- RogerRoeper


Right now they are, that’s all that matters

Vegas ALWAYS has been.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
When you can take a team that is devoid of hi-end star power, get them to commit to a (defensive/hard-working) game plan, look out.

There is far too much parity in the NHL to take any team for granted if they're buying into something.

- gravyface


I agree with this. I also think with the NHL continuing to not call penalties. It truly gives everyone a chance. That's exactly what Betteman wants.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
Anyone who underestimates Cary "when it counts" Price is a fool.

He's always stepped up on the big stage. Injuries and the grind of playing way too many games has been his downfall...

... but these low-octane grinder teams will always do well in the playoffs. People will laugh, but how hard OTT played? I think they could do some damage in the playoffs... gotta get there first though.

- gravyface

I like what the Sens are doing. Problem is when these young studs are due for big money, cheapskate Eugene won't pay them. He paid Chabot. Maybe he's smartened up? Mark Stone says hi.
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