Exactly why JB needs to stay out of the tier one UFA market. Sign EP & QH and go into the season with what you have.
- VanHockeyGuy

Unfortunately the GM no longer has that option. Do you think he will survive a full arena of Fire Benning? His hands are pretty well tied to make some serious moves now.

Unfortunately the GM no longer has that option. Do you think he will survive a full arena of Fire Benning? His hands are pretty well tied to make some serious moves now.
- VANTEL

Yup

Happy Father’s Day to those of you manly enough to have planted your seed. For the rest of you, there’s still time, you probably just need to surround yourself with some guys who are good in the room to show you how it’s done. Might be a bit awkward , but I’m sure you will find a way to power through.
- 1970vintage

From the bottom of my manly balls to yours, Happy Father's Day.

Unfortunately the GM no longer has that option. Do you think he will survive a full arena of Fire Benning? His hands are pretty well tied to make some serious moves now.
- VANTEL

He said he's going to be aggressive in the UFA & trade market. He admittedly has two years left to produce results, then he'll have had 9 years. It's going to be an interesting summer, it won't be easy for him.

I guess the question I would ask is - from the player’s perspective, why would they sign a below market contract with the Canucks?

Remember, the league is withholding a percentage of all contract values, and escrow is increased until revenue starts to normalize. So signing a bargain contract means a triple reduction in salary.

I mean, sure, Hayman might be enticed to play with Petey and Miller, surely a better combo than Matthews and Marner. But what if Höglander has a good camp, Hayman struggles to start and he ends up playing with Grayovac or Beagle?
- 1970vintage

Ok what is below market or sign for how much?

Yup
- 1970vintage

To please the people who want to fire him. 😆

Think AL will cost you a Myers contract. Bottom line, it’s going to be tough to both improve the team and avoid mortgaging the future.
- 1970vintage

From what I've seen/read, it'd be more in the high 4 range than 6. If it's under 5, I think that'd be a good number for him.

Yes, either way, JB has put himself into a bad position, and unfortunately I don't think many of us trust him to get himself out of it without setting the team back.

To please the people who want to fire him. 😆
- manvanfan

I sent you a PM, not sure if you saw it

As far as OEL . I see no reason why they don't look into it. I would be sending Nate Schmidt back the other way. It means no signing Edler. Gives you a number one LHD for a number of years. Means you can trade one of Rathbone or Juolevi to fix another hole. Maybe a Rathbone for Foote swap .

I would look also at getting Tyler Johnson at half price for a very late round pick.

Exactly why JB needs to stay out of the tier one UFA market. Sign EP & QH and go into the season with what you have.
- VanHockeyGuy

You prepared for the kids to get the expeience & use patience?

From the bottom of my manly balls to yours, Happy Father's Day.
- Load Management

Lol cheers daddio 🍺

As far as OEL . I see no reason why they don't look into it. I would be sending Nate Schmidt back the other way. It means no signing Edler. Gives you a number one LHD for a number of years. Means you can trade one of Rathbone or Juolevi to fix another hole. Maybe a Rathbone for Foote swap .

I would look also at getting Tyler Johnson at half price for a very late round pick.
- VANTEL

Don’t see TB trading the same cheap contract for a LHD giving up a RHD.

On Johnson maybe retain 1m & give a 4th at most.

From the bottom of my manly balls to yours, Happy Father's Day.
- Load Management

lol

Ok what is below market or sign for how much?
- Nighthawk

I don’t know what guys will end up signing for, but you basically said you heard Hayman is looking for $6m? The “he will sign here for $4m or he can go play some place else” attitude won’t attract the guy you want. I suggest you find some recent comparables and expect he will sign a similar deal. Who are they guys like Hayman? Saad, Hoffman, Konecny? Maybe JT Miller? So probably somewhere between $5-$6m.

Who are the guys like Larsson? Is he a better Tanev?

You prepared for the kids to get the expeience & use patience?
- Nighthawk

Instead of making the cap/contract issues worse? Yes.

Don’t see TB trading the same cheap contract for a LHD giving up a RHD.

On Johnson maybe retain 1m & give a 4th at most.
- Nighthawk

Foote has to be protected in the E Draft and I also believe he can not be sent down on waivers . Rathbone doesn't .

I don't want Johnson @4 mil . It needs to be 2.5 -3 mil max

As far as OEL . I see no reason why they don't look into it. I would be sending Nate Schmidt back the other way. It means no signing Edler. Gives you a number one LHD for a number of years. Means you can trade one of Rathbone or Juolevi to fix another hole. Maybe a Rathbone for Foote swap .

I would look also at getting Tyler Johnson at half price for a very late round pick.
- VANTEL

With OEL's numbers dropping rapidly is it really worth it? Why not see what Schmidt can do over a full schedule? Edler should be gone but probably will be back for a year in the 5-6 slot? OJ showed with the proper TOI he'll be fine. Can't panic lol

Foote has to be protected in the E Draft and I also believe he can not be sent down on waivers . Rathbone doesn't .

I don't want Johnson @4 mil . It needs to be 2.5 -3 mil max
- VANTEL

I watched him play in Kelowna several times, nice player, good size.

I watched him play in Kelowna several times, nice player, good size.
- VanHockeyGuy

I seen him on Syracuse . Good player.

I seen him on Syracuse . Good player.
- VANTEL

NJ will probably do a side deal with SEA.

NJ will probably do a side deal with SEA.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think NJ will lose Johnsson in the E Draft they should be okay with their list . Did you mean TB?

Happy Father's Day fellas....gonna be a beauty out there today on the left coast!

I think NJ will lose Johnsson in the E Draft they should be okay with their list . Did you mean TB?
- VANTEL

Yes I did.

I don’t know what guys will end up signing for, but you basically said you heard Hayman is looking for $6m? The “he will sign here for $4m or he can go play some place else” attitude won’t attract the guy you want. I suggest you find some recent comparables and expect he will sign a similar deal. Who are they guys like Hayman? Saad, Hoffman, Konecny? Maybe JT Miller? So probably somewhere between $5-$6m.

Who are the guys like Larsson? Is he a better Tanev?
- 1970vintage

Contract comparables before covid not happening imo. Hyman js a very good 3rd wheel in the top 6 or even 9 given a good 3C but that depends on Green & so many other factors. 6m is outta the question unless some fool GM signs him or he signs for a bottom feeder with cap & that I highly doubt unless all about the money. Best comparable imo is Palat he signed for 5.3m precovid so I discount accordingly to about the 4-4.5m range.

On AL almost a Tanev & again he’ll sign a covid deal in this market place. Any more & we walk. So max imo is 4-4.25m.

Instead of making the cap/contract issues worse? Yes.
- VanHockeyGuy

Define worse?