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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
Foote has to be protected in the E Draft and I also believe he can not be sent down on waivers . Rathbone doesn't .

I don't want Johnson @4 mil . It needs to be 2.5 -3 mil max

- VANTEL

Be nice at that price but don’t see TB retaing that much but instead will add a pick to dump him if Krak pass on him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
Yes I did.

- VanHockeyGuy


They could side deal Seattle but then they give up an asset for nothing . If they side deal with the rest of the league they get a return for their asset.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:35 PM ET
Contract comparables before covid not happening imo. Hyman js a very good 3rd wheel in the top 6 or even 9 given a good 3C but that depends on Green & so many other factors. 6m is outta the question unless some fool GM signs him or he signs for a bottom feeder with cap & that I highly doubt unless all about the money. Best comparable imo is Palat he signed for 5.3m precovid so I discount accordingly to about the 4-4.5m range.

On AL almost a Tanev & again he’ll sign a covid deal in this market place. Any more & we walk. So max imo is 4-4.25m.

- Nighthawk


I mean, you can do whatever you want on capfriendly, but I don’t think many players will be taking a discount, on top of a discount. Cap hits will still be signed relative to the comparable players. The discount will come from money being withheld by the league.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:36 PM ET
Be nice at that price but don’t see TB retaing that much but instead will add a pick to dump him if Krak pass on him.
- Nighthawk


TB are already 5 mil over next years max.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
I mean, you can do whatever you want on capfriendly, but I don’t think many players will be taking a discount, on top of a discount. Cap hits will still be signed relative to the comparable players. The discount will come from money being withheld by the league.
- 1970vintage

Ok give us comparables. As for a discount they are not in a position to demand top $.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
TB are already 5 mil over next years max.
- VANTEL

With a 19 roster I know.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:39 PM ET
Happy Father’s Day to those of you manly enough to have planted your seed. For the rest of you, there’s still time, you probably just need to surround yourself with some guys who are good in the room to show you how it’s done. Might be a bit awkward , but I’m sure you will find a way to power through.
- 1970vintage

The only awkward thing is father's day if it's a result of surrounding yourself by guys that are good in the room.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
Ok give us comparables. As for a discount they are not in a position to demand top $.
- Nighthawk


I just did. I’m not interested in doing acrobatics to add UFA’s. Be patient, wait one more year, then be more aggressive.

Also, what is top $? Nobody is suggesting that Hayman is going to get $9m. But some team will believe he is an upgrade, and pay him similar to other guys that produce as he has.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
With a 19 roster I know.
- Nighthawk


No one is talking Islanders or Caps but they need to move money also and decisions to make.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
TB are already 5 mil over next years max.
- VANTEL

How much were they over before this year started? They're probably going to win their second straight Cup, they'll find a way to be compliant and still ice a tremendous Cup contending roster, just like this year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
How much were they over before this year started? They're probably going to win their second straight Cup, they'll find a way to be compliant and still ice a tremendous Cup contending roster, just like this year.
- LeftCoaster


No doubt . Very smart management . They will find a way . More GMs need to use those loopholes.

Can you imagine if Loui was at training camp and tripped and his knee went out for the year
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:49 PM ET
No doubt . Very smart management . They will find a way . More GMs need to use those loopholes.

Can you imagine if Loui was at training camp and tripped and his knee went out for the year

- VANTEL

Kind of baffling that Vancouver management can never find a "creative" way to legally get around cap mismanagement but other clubs can???
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
I just did. I’m not interested in doing acrobatics to add UFA’s. Be patient, wait one more year, then be more aggressive.

Also, what is top $? Nobody is suggesting that Hayman is going to get $9m. But some team will believe he is an upgrade, and pay him similar to other guys that produce as he has.

- 1970vintage

I’m fine with playing the kids & said so many times starting with last season but that is irrelevant when JB said they will be aggressive this season. As for 9m lol I said not getting his rumoured 6/6m ask or a GM is nutz. He is an upgrade for most teams but at what cost we will see.

I can wait 1 more year but this crackers fanbase are insufferable & will surely whine no matter what occurs.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
No one is talking Islanders or Caps but they need to move money also and decisions to make.
- VANTEL

Yup just not on the radar as much with all the smoke going on.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
Happy Father's Day fellas....gonna be a beauty out there today on the left coast!
- LeftCoaster

Golfing?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
Kind of baffling that Vancouver management can never find a "creative" way to get legally get around cap mismanagement but other clubs can???
- LeftCoaster



They did and it cost them a 9 mil recapture penalty.


They actually are doing it with Ferland and probably Beagle and Roussel this year.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
Golfing?
- LordHumungous

Not today, spending the day with family.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
How much were they over before this year started? They're probably going to win their second straight Cup, they'll find a way to be compliant and still ice a tremendous Cup contending roster, just like this year.
- LeftCoaster

Well geez is that vague or what lol

Already handed the cup & they’ve no choice to be compliant. Has anyone doubted they will not ice a good roster?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
Kind of baffling that Vancouver management can never find a "creative" way to legally get around cap mismanagement but other clubs can???
- LeftCoaster

Clubs? How many & whom?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Well geez is that vague or what lol

Already handed the cup & they’ve no choice to be compliant. Has anyone doubted they will not ice a good roster?

- Nighthawk

English???
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
Clubs? How many & whom?
- Nighthawk
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
No doubt . Very smart management . They will find a way . More GMs need to use those loopholes.

Can you imagine if Loui was at training camp and tripped and his knee went out for the year

- VANTEL


I was actually thinking there’s probably a surgery he needs, that could be scheduled for mid September, and has a 6-8 month recovery period. Something to fix whatever is wrong so that he can actually keep playing after this year (somewhere else).
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
I was actually thinking there’s probably a surgery he needs, that could be scheduled for mid September, and has a 6-8 month recovery period. Something to fix whatever is wrong so that he can actually keep playing after this year (somewhere else).
- 1970vintage



Sow his balls back on?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
I’m fine with playing the kids & said so many times starting with last season but that is irrelevant when JB said they will be aggressive this season. As for 9m lol I said not getting his rumoured 6/6m ask or a GM is nutz. He is an upgrade for most teams but at what cost we will see.

I can wait 1 more year but this crackers fanbase are insufferable & will surely whine no matter what occurs.

- Nighthawk


People on the internet, not this particular fan base. Go read through the Leaf thread, it’s a mirror or this one. On second thought, just take my word for it and save yourself an hour and 30 brain cells.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
Sow his balls back on?
- VANTEL




Maybe his back is sore from carrying the Sedins
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