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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 10:40 AM ET
is it a matter of center over winger?
- Michael Pachla

Just younger and had a good year at Michigan
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:40 AM ET
That's a good starting point
- Buff36


I like the idea of trading Reinhart to Columbus and having part of the return being Seth Jones, then Buffalo could trade Jones and even retain salary if needed to maximize the return.

It'll never happen though.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 19 @ 10:42 AM ET
There was a rumor floated that the Wild offered $8M per for 8 years and he declined it. That would be something if true.
- kingcong39


They did. But much like Panarin, he figures he’ll get paid either way, so why not get to UFA the quickest and can choose where to play. Watched the bread man do it, figures to be a good strategy for older players with big success at the NHL level
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 10:44 AM ET
I like the idea of trading Reinhart to Columbus and having part of the return being Seth Jones, then Buffalo could trade Jones and even retain salary if needed to maximize the return.

It'll never happen though.

- kingcong39

That would be interesting, but like you said I highly doubt it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:44 AM ET
That would be interesting, but like you said I highly doubt it.
- Buff36


That would take a level of creativity that few GM's seem to possess.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 19 @ 10:46 AM ET
I like the Florida idea of Lundell and two 1sts.

Then trade Sam and Florida’s first this year to Seattle for #2.


Start the rebuild adding Power, Beniers and Lundell to our other young core.

Have 2 firsts next year, one which will be most likely top 3
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:46 AM ET
That would take a level of creativity that few GM's seem to possess.
- kingcong39

would c-bus do the same with sam?
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
I like the Florida idea of Lundell and two 1sts.

Then trade Sam and Florida’s first this year to Seattle for #2.


Start the rebuild adding Power, Beniers and Lundell to our other young core.

Have 2 firsts next year, one which will be most likely top 3

- Fattony1187


I mean I like that too. Does Fla? Doubt it
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
would c-bus do the same with sam?
- Michael Pachla


I don't believe so as they're all in on adding quality players that want to be in Columbus.

I don't think they'd trade for Reinhart unless he agreed to sign an extension there.

I'm not sure Sam sees Columbus as a preferred destination, which is why I doubt he'll be traded there, despite what Friedman has repeatedly said about there being a lot of talk of Columbus and Reinhart being linked.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
would c-bus do the same with sam?
- Michael Pachla


I don't believe so as they're all in on adding quality players that want to be in Columbus.

I don't think they'd trade for Reinhart unless he agreed to sign an extension there.

I'm not sure Sam sees Columbus as a preferred destination, which is why I doubt he'll be traded there, despite what Friedman has repeatedly said about there being a lot of talk of Columbus and Reinhart being linked.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
circling back here:

would tuch, theodore, jack dugan and 2021 1st do it for either side?

- Michael Pachla


Close I would guess.
Tuch and Theodare might be tough to get both given VKG would be in win-now mode so they'll want to preserve their roster...I get the Cap balancing side of it.
That said, their '21 pick is going to be virtually a 2nd...being at 29-31 range...I'd rather have an existing prospect

How about
Tuch
Krebs
Dugan
Logan Thompson (G)
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
I mean I like that too. Does Fla? Doubt it
- SDSabre


I think Florida would do it, as a top 2 center tandem of Eichel and Barkov would be downright frightening.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think Florida would do it, as a top 2 center tandem of Eichel and Barkov would be downright frightening.
- kingcong39



Same. They were a cup contender this year and now you have Jack as your 2nd line.

Their 1st rd picks will be in late 20s. Maybe you take a little of a cap dump but sets us up nicely on a rebuild too and them a cup run
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Same. They were a cup contender this year and now you have Jack as your 2nd line.

Their 1st rd picks will be in late 20s. Maybe you take a little of a cap dump but sets us up nicely on a rebuild too and them a cup run

- Fattony1187


That's why I don't think the deal proposed is even enough with Florida being in the same division.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
https://thehockeywriters....el-trade-fit-right-price/
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:57 AM ET
https://thehockeywriters.com/ducks-eichel-trade-fit-right-price/
- Buff36


Hell no that's not enough, considering they're taking on Henrique's contract in that proposed deal.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
https://youtu.be/7UU6mXFpl9k
Beautiful morning out on the back porch

- Buff36


Good mythical morning to ya bud
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
Hell no that's not enough, considering they're taking on Henrique's contract in that proposed deal.
- kingcong39

Just reading material, and I agree
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
Good mythical morning to ya bud
- TheSabresTaco

Morning Taco, how ya doin, how's the family.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
I think Florida would do it, as a top 2 center tandem of Eichel and Barkov would be downright frightening.
- kingcong39


It would, only concern would be resigning Barkov and Hubs with 4M in space. Yandle and Stralman do come off the books, but then you gott replace middle pairings.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
I mean I like that too. Does Fla? Doubt it
- SDSabre


Why not?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nothing is gonna be good enough for Eichel, but can't just throw away deals because we think it's not enough.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 19 @ 11:02 AM ET
Yes it is, just from what has been said, and then wearing it out onto the field. I still do too, I only do it cause I don't want to bring home anything to my Mother.
- Buff36

There is a very fine line between the people who understand this and the people who do not. It's not about you or me, it's about protecting other people. The vaccine is a whole other can of worms that we should just leave out of here.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
Why not?
- IonSabres


Value standpoint in sure they’d be fine with couple late firsts and Lundell. Cap restrictions come into play. Is Eichel worth losing one of Barkov or Huberdeau to UFA because they can’t afford them? Idk about that. This is where that Bob deal bites then in the ass
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
There is a very fine line between the people who understand this and the people who do not. It's not about you or me, it's about protecting other people. The vaccine is a whole other can of worms that we should just leave out of here.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Good Post!!!
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