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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:21 PM ET
Well isn't it Marner's fault that his only weapon is a "pass"?

You know....since he's afraid of getting hit and doesn't have a NHL level shot and can't get into the dirty areas.

Matthews gets a lot easier to contain when he's the only threat on the ice. That's not how it's suppose to be when your line mate makes $10.9M.

And maybe, just maybe, it would be easier to add a few more threats if we had $10.9M to give to a player or players that don't poop themselves during the playoffs so the focus wasn't solely on Matthews.

Maybe.

- underhill14


All good points..

Maybe, Matthews would have had an easier time if the Jake Allen was starting?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
He’s definitely held us back on long playoff runs. Off the books soon enough. Spend it on gamers not golfers.
- Nighthawk

Loungo loves his 3M a year for not even playing.

Beagle is fun too

Jeeze what a horrible cap they have, I knew it was bad but not this bad
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
Well isn't it Marner's fault that his only weapon is a "pass"?

You know....since he's afraid of getting hit and doesn't have a NHL level shot and can't get into the dirty areas.

Matthews gets a lot easier to contain when he's the only threat on the ice. That's not how it's suppose to be when your line mate makes $10.9M.

And maybe, just maybe, it would be easier to add a few more threats if we had $10.9M to give to a player or players that don't poop themselves during the playoffs so the focus wasn't solely on Matthews.

Maybe.

- underhill14


Afraid to get hit?

He played terrible, has nothing to do with being afraid. I watch “afraid to get hit” and it doesn’t really describe Marner TBH
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
Afraid to get hit?

He played terrible, has nothing to do with being afraid. I watch “afraid to get hit” and it doesn’t really describe Marner TBH

- Garnie


Don’t mess with the cliches. Every player who put a puck over the glass is a coward.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
Afraid to get hit?

He played terrible, has nothing to do with being afraid. I watch “afraid to get hit” and it doesn’t really describe Marner TBH

- Garnie



what about that play in the Leafs zone, where the puck was coming around the boards and Marner bailed on it, when Gallagher came close to him?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1405704018819620870
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:28 PM ET
Don’t mess with the cliches. Every player who put a puck over the glass is a coward.
- Canada Cup



Call it what you want, but Marner played scared
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
what about that play in the Leafs zone, where the puck was coming around the boards and Marner bailed on it, when Gallagher came close to him?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1405704018819620870

- PatC80


I’m not going to get into arguing over a play, I don’t think he shy’d away to not get hit there.

But, he played terrible and I understand people wanting him traded.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:39 PM ET
All good points..

Maybe, Matthews would have had an easier time if the Jake Allen was starting?

- PatC80


Not unless Carey Price takes the posts and crossbar with him.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
All good points..

Maybe, Matthews would have had an easier time if the Jake Allen was starting?

- PatC80


Yep, Price just calm, cool and collective.

Puts up good #’s every playoff it seems.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
Not unless Carey Price takes the posts and crossbar with him.
- underhill14


He had the net covered, all that was left were the posts and crossbars.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
He’s definitely held us back on long playoff runs. Off the books soon enough. Spend it on gamers not golfers.
- Nighthawk


Hey Sheethawk - flock off and go squawk over in the 'nucklehead blog comments we have one poophawk in here already and we actually like him.

underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
I’m not going to get into arguing over a play, I don’t think he shy’d away to not get hit there.

But, he played terrible and I understand people wanting him traded.

- Garnie

Well, if we can't start to agree on that clip, obvious clip....we're fu3ked.

If you don't think that's shying away then it's no wonder we're on a different page about Marner.

I've watched every other series. That kinda play is non-existent in NHL PLAYOFF HOCKEY.

PS...there were quite a few more of those by Marner too.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
Don’t mess with the cliches. Every player who put a puck over the glass is a coward.
- Canada Cup

Re watch the games nerd.

He was without question playing afraid....all the time too, not just on the puck over the glass play.

Actually, I don't even mentally reference that play when I think about how chicken sh1t he played. Over the glass happens, it sucks, but it happens.

There were many other examples.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:54 PM ET
Well, if we can't start to agree on that clip, obvious clip....we're fu3ked.

If you don't think that's shying away then it's no wonder we're on a different page about Marner.

I've watched every other series. That kinda play is non-existent in NHL PLAYOFF HOCKEY.

PS...there were quite a few more of those by Marner too.

- underhill14


If you want to discuss it, he looks over his shoulder thinking the puck is coming around faster then it was. But I’m sure whatever way you want to look at it you can find away to explain it.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
Re watch the games nerd.

He was without question playing afraid....all the time too, not just on the puck over the glass play.

Actually, I don't even mentally reference that play when I think about how chicken sh1t he played. Over the glass happens, it sucks, but it happens.

There were many other examples.

- underhill14


I probably have the games still taped, come on over for free pints and we’ll rewatch. You’ll be shocked when you find out you have the wrong #

GO (frank)ING LEAFS GO......golfing
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
If you want to discuss it, he looks over his shoulder thinking the puck is coming around faster then it was. But I’m sure whatever way you want to look at it you can find away to explain it.
- Garnie


Just to be clear, the over the glass play is not an example of him messing up due to fear.

As I mention above, there are many other examples though. I'll see if I can dig any out.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
I’m not going to get into arguing over a play, I don’t think he shy’d away to not get hit there.

But, he played terrible and I understand people wanting him traded.

- Garnie



we'll just have to agree to disagree
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
I probably have the games still taped, come on over for free pints and we’ll rewatch. You’ll be shocked when you find out you have the wrong #

GO (frank)ING LEAFS GO......golfing

- Garnie




...you lose, I'm fun to drink and watch hockey with
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
Just to be clear, the over the glass play is not an example of him messing up due to fear.

As I mention above, there are many other examples though. I'll see if I can dig any out.

- underhill14

Doesn’t matter we lost, the softest $40m in hockey will stay intact and we’ll hope and pray for a some better luck next year.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
Don’t mess with the cliches. Every player who put a puck over the glass is a coward.
- Canada Cup





Marner was accessed two puck over the glass infractions during the 2018 series against the Boston Bruins, one in Game 2 and one in Game 6. He took another one in Game 5 against the Bruins in 2019. In 2020, Marner had a tripping call against the Columbus Blue Jackets. Now, he has two puck over the glass calls in 2021. Marner sat in the sin bin for 20 minutes during 55 games this season. He now has four minutes in just six playoff games in 2020-21.


The process of getting better at any craft or task, is learning from your mistakes. As a player that has taken 7 minor penalties in the playoffs 6 of them over the glass type, it seems the learning from mistakes is not doing well in this case. If you take a penalty, personally I would much rather that at least one opponent is limping just a little rather than this avoidable, sucky type of penalty.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Marner played like a scared little 14 yr B!tch. That is my opinion.

Jumping out of the way of body contact, trying to make crazy turns to avoid contact and giving the puck away. Willie only hit one person in the past 5 years and it was Price in Game fukcin 6. Then scared little boy flips the puck into row (frank)in 14....

Marner has lost me as a fan until he is gone, or proves that he can play in the second season. Do not give a fiddlers (frank) if he gets 150 points in regular Pond hockey season next yr...

Pathetic playoff performance.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
Marner played like a scared little 14 yr B!tch. That is my opinion.

Jumping out of the way of body contact, trying to make crazy turns to avoid contact and giving the puck away. Willie only hit one person in the past 5 years and it was Price in Game fukcin 6. Then scared little boy flips the puck into row (frank)in 14....

Marner has lost me as a fan until he is gone, or proves that he can play in the second season. Do not give a fiddlers (frank) if he gets 150 points in regular Pond hockey season next yr...

Pathetic playoff performance.

- bixll

This. Exactly.

(thanks for coming out of the cabin in woods to make this post )
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
This. Exactly.

(thanks for coming out of the cabin in woods to make this post )

- underhill14



Some bigger issues in my life. No worries. See you guys next year, after the Leaf are eliminated in round 1.

P.S. The trolling is pathetic as well... just childish.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
This is all I could find for playoff highlights for Mitchy...

underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
Some bigger issues in my life. No worries. See you guys next year, after the Leaf are eliminated in round 1.

P.S. The trolling is pathetic as well... just childish.

- bixll


Hope you're alright brother!
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