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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:47 PM ET
zegras was going to be drafted by buffalo but the Cozens drop happen

Buffalo knows everything about zegras if he gets moved
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Since when is Ullmark an average starter?

When Ullmark is healthy and actually able to shoulder a starters workload, it will be the first time.

If somebody gives him $5M per, they're nuts.

To me, if Ullmark is your starter, it means you need 3 goaltenders, not two, and I cannot spend money on a starter like that.

- kingcong39


You seem to take issue with the suggestion that Ullmark's camp is looking for starter's money every time I've mentioned it this season. In his shoes, would you really take less to stay in Buffalo and not test the market?

It's not like I'm a big Ullmark fan. I'd move on from him.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
zegras was going to be drafted by buffalo but the Cozens dropped happen

Buffalo knows everything about zegras if he gets moved

- gerbe75pts


I was told Calgary was the likeliest Jack destination, with Anaheim in the mix. Feel free to confirm deny PM.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Woah
- dmarsden2988


You get a franchise player we get a future one
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
Just can't see the devil's going for risto as the devils rely on analytics and unless it's for cheap I don't see them do it
- dmarsden2988



Devils have been after Risto for two or three years according to the insiders. They must be looking past the analytics
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
John Hoven/The Mayor doubling down on LA not being interested in Eichel.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
You seem locked in on 2 names I pulled quickly from the lottery tool. I also mentioned Kivlenieks. He's younger and more interesting because he could be more than a stop-gap. I'm sure there's other options. I didn't dig very much.

Also, I'm not necessarily saying it has to be a pick for a G. Could easily be part of a bigger deal.

- Lunaion


He looks intriguing.

I get what you're saying but if this a blow up situation, I just don't see the point in spending assets unless it's something like the Colorado 6th round pick. The Sabres need to stockpile assets and do it right this time.

I'm also assuming that this coming year is just going to be thrown on to the pile of wasted seasons and the Sabres are going to break the playoff record.

Maybe they'll try to win instead
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
Devils have been after Risto for two or three years according to the insiders. They must be looking past the analytics
- Powerslave


that's a shame.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
That's fine to think, and I really have no issue with it, but it results in him testing the market. My point here has really been that I don't see a middle ground that keeps him from looking around.

I don't want to see them overpay here either.

- Lunaion

i agree i can't see any scenario where he doesn't test the market

and im fine with that
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:53 PM ET
You seem to take issue with the suggestion that Ullmark's camp is looking for starter's money every time I've mentioned it this season. In his shoes, would you really take less to stay in Buffalo and not test the market?

It's not like I'm a big Ullmark fan. I'd move on from him.

- Lunaion


It's more that you seem to be making an assumption that there's one or more teams who are going to be willing to pay Ullmark starter money. I completely disagree with that.

Ultimately, we're on the same page as neither of us would pay him anywhere near that money or term.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:54 PM ET
I was told Calgary was the likeliest Jack destination, with Anaheim in the mix. Feel free to confirm deny PM.
- TheSabresTaco


Focus on the other team in SoCal folks https://t.co/QkYKyLwDmQ

https://twitter.com/CMDeD.../1405217145420668928?s=19
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 16 @ 1:54 PM ET
John Hoven/The Mayor doubling down on LA not being interested in Eichel.
- TheSabresTaco

is he somehow tied to the team other than just being the mayor of the town its in? just seems like an odd thing to keep saying
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:59 PM ET
Thanks for reading.

He'll get better grades next year I bet. Krueger had a lot to do with the bad grades

Well unless he bungles Eichel

- Hank Balling


It’s probably not even that fair to trade Adams on this season- season nice the roster was supposedly put together mostly by Kruger
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:01 PM ET
From many accounts, Ullmark is gone as far as signing with the Sabres.
- kingcong39

Thank god they didn't get anything for him at the deadline.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:02 PM ET
is he somehow tied to the team other than just being the mayor of the town its in? just seems like an odd thing to keep saying
- SabresFaninIndiana


He’s their version of Paul Hamilton
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 16 @ 2:02 PM ET
is he somehow tied to the team other than just being the mayor of the town its in? just seems like an odd thing to keep saying
- SabresFaninIndiana


He has some connections, but not to the level of guys like LeBrun, MacKenzie, or Dreger. As much as I dislike the guy, his insider news is correct most of the time.

He's not really going out on a limb here. He checked in with his LA sources who have essentially said there's no desire to trade Byfield for Eichel. He's checked in with other sources who have said that Eichel to LA would require Byfield in return. Therefore, there's no trade to be made.

If Buffalo backs down from requiring Byfield in return, then I'm sure LA would be back in as a suitor. So far, it sounds like they haven't done so, therefore LA is still out on Eichel.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:03 PM ET
Somewhere out there... Boss is smiling
- Hank Balling


😂😂😂
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 16 @ 2:04 PM ET
Just can't see the devil's going for risto as the devils rely on analytics and unless it's for cheap I don't see them do it
- dmarsden2988



Myles wood would be my ask
Bring the kid home
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 2:05 PM ET
It's more that you seem to be making an assumption that there's one or more teams who are going to be willing to pay Ullmark starter money. I completely disagree with that.

Ultimately, we're on the same page as neither of us would pay him anywhere near that money or term.

- kingcong39


I have no idea what's going to happen if he hits the open market. Crazy things do happen in UFA, but it's also a flat cap world.

I just like to rant about giving him the one year deal and putting themselves in a terrible position of negotiating against themselves. Sam, Linus, and others have reason to be pissed at how the organization has handled their contracts.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:08 PM ET
Question for everyone, what player in the NHL would you trade 1 for 1 with Jack Eichel?
- realsabresfan11


I don’t wanna trade him 1 for 1
No one we’d possibly bring in is gonna be able to lead this team to victory

Get a good package, and rebuild again
This time…. Do it right though
Sucks, but that’s where we are at imo
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
I have no idea what's going to happen if he hits the open market. Crazy things do happen in UFA, but it's also a flat cap world.

I just like to rant about giving him the one year deal and putting themselves in a terrible position of negotiating against themselves. Sam, Linus, and others have reason to be pissed at how the organization has handled their contracts.

- Lunaion


If what's been rumored about Eichel and Botterill is true, then it's been a full on dumpster fire of how to handle player contracts.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
is he somehow tied to the team other than just being the mayor of the town its in? just seems like an odd thing to keep saying
- SabresFaninIndiana



https://mayorsmanor.com/
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:10 PM ET
He has some connections, but not to the level of guys like LeBrun, MacKenzie, or Dreger. As much as I dislike the guy, his insider news is correct most of the time.

He's not really going out on a limb here. He checked in with his LA sources who have essentially said there's no desire to trade Byfield for Eichel. He's checked in with other sources who have said that Eichel to LA would require Byfield in return. Therefore, there's no trade to be made.

If Buffalo backs down from requiring Byfield in return, then I'm sure LA would be back in as a suitor. So far, it sounds like they haven't done so, therefore LA is still out on Eichel.

- tkecanuck341


It’s possible that LA could back down on their stance too though
They’ve been calling about Eichel for 2 seasons now, so they’re clearly very interested

Let’s just see how this all plays out
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
Ryan Mead, some insider for the Rangers just tweeted a pondering emoji. Wonder what that means?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
He has some connections, but not to the level of guys like LeBrun, MacKenzie, or Dreger. As much as I dislike the guy, his insider news is correct most of the time.

He's not really going out on a limb here. He checked in with his LA sources who have essentially said there's no desire to trade Byfield for Eichel. He's checked in with other sources who have said that Eichel to LA would require Byfield in return. Therefore, there's no trade to be made.

If Buffalo backs down from requiring Byfield in return, then I'm sure LA would be back in as a suitor. So far, it sounds like they haven't done so, therefore LA is still out on Eichel.

- tkecanuck341


Thanks for this. FWIW Friedman gave Hoven a lot of credit for being closely tied into the org.
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