I don't get why Anaheim is considering gutting their future to acquire Jack.
That team is about as far away from contending as the Sabres are.
I mean if they want to send
* Zegras
* 3-OA '21
* Comtois (or Tarry + Jones)
I'd certainly take it, but man I wouldn't want to do it if I were them.

They finished with 6 more points than the Sabres, a full 20 points behind qualifying for the playoffs.
In no way does Jack come close to closing that gap.
- IonSabres

Easy - it's the same reason we didn't stay the course 5 years ago. There isn't any patience because people are sick of losing.

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Here's why it was said or "leaked"


The Sabres are softening the blow for a pathetic Eichel return so that the shiny #3 overall pick + Troy freaking Terry and a cap dump doesn't look like the absolute joke of a return for Eichel it is
- sbroads24

this is completely plausible

If they fired the bad scouts and kept the good scouts, then why weren't listening to the good scouts all along?
- Lunaion

I don't know. Maybe because you can't really judge a draft right away. It takes a few years?

I'm not sticking up for the organization as a whole, I just have no issue with them firing half a scouting department that really produced very little, when it seems that every other team in the league finds these second, third and fourth round gems.

Sure, but 90-95% of the players that are in the league were drafted at one point or the other.

Also in a flat cap world, building out a roster with talented players on ELC’s is a must.

Unless your Vegas or Tampa and get good players at a 25% discount due to state tax laws, in Tampa’s case going $15M over the cap.

Do franchises overrate their prospect pools ? Sure I can accept that.

However I don’t blame them for doing so
- Pegullaville

Let's use this example as it's pertinent to the topic at hand: Chances Zegras, Drysdale, or any of the Ducks prospects turn out to be as good as Eichel?

Close. You’re thinking of John Hancock which was Herbies Great Great Grandpa.
- c1067

this is completely plausible
- Michael Pachla

This would devastatingly bad for the league. Hockey in buffalo is suffering and that is detrimental to the success of the league as a whole.

Trading jack will certainly sour even more fans, losing the trade will leave them with what as a fan base.

i don't know that we had bad amateur scouts considering how some of these draft picks are starting to look.. but whoever sold botts on frolik needs to be fired
- SabresFaninIndiana

it was a fourth round pick.... our pk was horrid. Get over it.

Bah Gawd

Let's use this example as it's pertinent to the topic at hand: Chances Zegras, Drysdale, or any of the Ducks prospects turn out to be as good as Eichel?
- kingcong39

I'll take it a step further-

Chances any of Zegras, Drysdale, Pick #3, are 75% as good as Eichel within 3 years? I'd say slim

Therefore getting two of the above is minimum for me to deal Eichel

Let's use this example as it's pertinent to the topic at hand: Chances Zegras, Drysdale, or any of the Ducks prospects turn out to be as good as Eichel?
- kingcong39

Think about how static the list of the top 10 in the NHL has been for the last 3-5 years. You see the same names year after year despite 31 teams drafting hundreds of prospects each year. Eichel is on that list and, given better circumstances, will be for years to come. I say odds are less than 5% that any players I've heard linked to him ever equal his talent.

I don't know. Maybe because you can't really judge a draft right away. It takes a few years?

I'm not sticking up for the organization as a whole, I just have no issue with them firing half a scouting department that really produced very little, when it seems that every other team in the league finds these second, third and fourth round gems.
- Powerslave

That's the contradiction here. If you can't judge JB's drafts yet, then how can you say they produced very little?

A rookie GM, with no AGM's, and a skeleton staff isn't something I can defend.

I'm not sure if there's a tendency to drastically overrate the worth of picks and prospects, or if Buffalo fans just have a version of abused spouse syndrome after years of losing, but Eichel is straight up a top twenty talent in the NHL. Possibly even top 5 on the right team in my opinion. You can build a team around a talent like him. Zegras, Drysdale, and even Byfield are prospects. You hope they might become that, but odds are they will never be that good. Talents like Eichel are very, very rare.
- SoCalPucks

This would be a relevant post if the trade proposed was 1:1.
But it was a 3:1.
The context of the post was gutting your future to win now.

Of course we know Jack is currently better....10+ wins better when you consider they would likely be trading their current top scorer in the 3:1 deal?
I don't think so.

What if it's
Anaheim: Eichel
Sabres: 3, Drysdale, Comtois

Let's use this example as it's pertinent to the topic at hand: Chances Zegras, Drysdale, or any of the Ducks prospects turn out to be as good as Eichel?
- kingcong39

Slim to none.

However with the current composition of the Ducks roster they may be better off keeping Zegras and Drysdale and 3rd overall and staying the course.

I'll take it a step further-

Chances any of Zegras, Drysdale, Pick #3, are 75% as good as Eichel within 3 years? I'd say slim

Therefore getting two of the above is minimum for me to deal Eichel
- sbroads24

I agree.

I just don’t think we will

This would devastatingly bad for the league. Hockey in buffalo is suffering and that is detrimental to the success of the league as a whole.

Trading jack will certainly sour even more fans, losing the trade will leave them with what as a fan base.
- Carubba-Kaleta

When you look at the actual numbers, versus ratings, we Buffalo fans vastly overrate our importance to the NHL. If we were that important, we would be getting the max number of national TV games every year, regardless of our record. We don't, nor did we even when the Sabres were really good.

What if it's
Anaheim: Eichel
Sabres: 3, Drysdale, Comtois
- Buff36

I’d want their unprotected 2022 1st also

This would be a relevant post if the trade proposed was 1:1.
But it was a 3:1.
The context of the post was gutting your future to win now.

Of course we know Jack is currently better....10+ wins better when you consider they would likely be trading their current top scorer in the 3:1 deal?
I don't think so.
- IonSabres

That's not "mortgaging their future" and it doesn't mean they need to win now. Eichel is 24. This is absurd.

Let's use this example as it's pertinent to the topic at hand: Chances Zegras, Drysdale, or any of the Ducks prospects turn out to be as good as Eichel?
- kingcong39

Who said those guys would be better than Jack 1:1?

Is Jack better than say:
Eklund/Guenther
And
Zegras
And
Comtois

That is the question.

What if it's
Anaheim: Eichel
Sabres: 3, Drysdale, Comtois
- Buff36

Would need another piece but tis intriguing.

Dahlin, Power, Drysdale, Joki on the backend

I’d want their unprotected 2022 1st also
- jdfitz77

we know

you have said this many times

When you look at the actual numbers, versus ratings, we Buffalo fans vastly overrate our importance to the NHL. If we were that important, we would be getting the max number of national TV games every year, regardless of our record. We don't, nor did we even when the Sabres were really good.
- buffalofan19

They don't give us national games cause we suck and no one else wants to see us in addition in buffalo they used to watch no matter what.

What if it's
Anaheim: Eichel
Sabres: 3, Drysdale, Comtois
- Buff36

I'd consider it IF Sam returned Vilardi, Turcotte or Kupari

Slim to none.

However with the current composition of the Ducks roster they may be better off keeping Zegras and Drysdale and 3rd overall and staying the course.
- Pegullaville

Somebody gets it.

Would need another piece but tis intriguing.

Dahlin, Power, Drysdale, Joki on the backend

- DirtyDan

Groulx and Henrique coming back with them


Olofsson or Miller going back to the Ducks