eichel, skunk, gus and mccabe have been on this team since 2015-16...larsson was up until last year
- Michael Pachla

Between 15/16 and 17/18

Ristolainen played 1300 more minutes than ANYONE else

between 18/19- Present

Hes's played 500 more minutes than anyone else

He's it. He's the guy. He represents the losing and pathetic play more than anyone else

they all contributed to a league-worst record during that span as did the crappy coaches and crappy moves made by their general managers
- Michael Pachla

Pretending Eichel and Ristolainen both contributed to the losing as if they are remotely the same is some sort of take

Between 15/16 and 17/18

Ristolainen played 1300 more minutes than ANYONE else

between 18/19- Present

Hes's played 500 more minutes than anyone else

He's it. He's the guy. He represents the losing and pathetic play more than anyone else
- sbroads24

so how much do you think taking risto out of the equation changes things?...which rhd on the sabres would have saved them from "black-hole" risto?...the oft-injured bogo?...montour, who everyone hated until he was traded?...cody "analytics darling" franson?

joker?
miller?
tennyson?
nelson?

could gmtm, botts and/or kagm have traded for the likes dougie? or karlsson? or any other rhd that was traded during that time?

Pretending Eichel and Ristolainen both contributed to the losing as if they are remotely the same is some sort of take
- sbroads24

risto leads the d men in ice time w/o making the playoffs


law of syllogism would mean the same applies to Jack how led the forwards in ice time during the same era

Pretending Eichel and Ristolainen both contributed to the losing as if they are remotely the same is some sort of take
- sbroads24

fans were hating on eichel because they believed he was floating and had a bad attitude

fans were hating on eichel because they believed he was floating and had a bad attitude
- Michael Pachla

Fans are idiots

so how much do you think taking risto out of the equation changes things?...which rhd on the sabres would have saved them from "black-hole" risto?...the oft-injured bogo?...montour, who everyone hated until he was traded?...cody "analytics darling franson?

joker?
miller?
tennyson?
nelson?

could gmtm, botts and/or kagm have traded for the likes dougie? or karlsson? or any other rhd that was traded during that time?
- Michael Pachla

it's risto's fault the other d men were gorges, kulikov, fedun, falk, bogo and franson

Adams and Donnie met yesterday

fans were hating on eichel because they believed he was floating and had a bad attitude
- Michael Pachla

that's different

Fans are idiots
- jochfr

if the wings waited a few more weeks before putting Matt Ellis on waivers, his name is on the cup

Friedman basically calling the Kings liars that they aren't in on Eichel

that's different
- homiedclown

did jack live up to his "franchise center," no. 2 draft ranking just barely behind mcdavid who has proven to be a generational talent?

Friedman basically calling the Kings liars that they aren't in on Eichel
- sbroads24

they'd be crazy not to be in on him

did jack live up to his "franchise center," no. 2 draft ranking just barely behind mcdavid who has proven to be a generational talent?
- Michael Pachla

No. For as good as he has been, he has fallen short of what everyone thought he would be.

So basically nothing, everything that has already been talked about here.

fans were hating on eichel because they believed he was floating and had a bad attitude
- Michael Pachla

Eichel "floating" is an odd take.
Maybe occasionally on a shift change to the bench?

Risto and eichel are probably the 2 hardest working Sabres over the past 5 or 6 seasons.

That's why coach after coach piles the minutes on risto.

You brought up a good point with risto's replacement.
How easy is it to pretend it's all risto's fault, but none of the other Right handed defenders fault.

There have been no options for coaches.
Finally the best drafted defenseman ever played well for the past 15 games last season.

Brimd'amour signs Carolina

so how much do you think taking risto out of the equation changes things?...which rhd on the sabres would have saved them from "black-hole" risto?...the oft-injured bogo?...montour, who everyone hated until he was traded?...cody "analytics darling" franson?

joker?
miller?
tennyson?
nelson?

could gmtm, botts and/or kagm have traded for the likes dougie? or karlsson? or any other rhd that was traded during that time?
- Michael Pachla

have to wonder if risto being permanently inked as 1RHD is part of the reason they've never even come close to acquiring someone who could assume the role from him

kind of a sign of a bigger problem with the GM as a whole

Kreuger paid 4 mil

Rod the Bod paid 1.8 per year.

That is all i got.

Adams and Donnie met yesterday
- Powerslave

the bod is said to have signed a two-year deal for a freidman reported $1.8m per...

how much did botts and the pegulas sign r lph for?

did jack live up to his "franchise center," no. 2 draft ranking just barely behind mcdavid who has proven to be a generational talent?
- Michael Pachla

i feel like we're going to be sickened by the answer to this once he leaves because its going to be a resounding yes

did jack live up to his "franchise center," no. 2 draft ranking just barely behind mcdavid who has proven to be a generational talent?
- Michael Pachla

Yeah of course

i feel like we're going to be sickened by the answer to this once he leaves because its going to be a resounding yes
- robz228

To date though, he has fallen short.

He was good, he was the reason for excitement. But coming into that draft was.

Don't worry if we don't get McDavid, Eichel will be close to as good.

the bod is said to have signed a two-year deal for a freidman reported $1.8m per...

how much did botts and the pegulas sign r lph for?
- Michael Pachla

See above your post

To date though, he has fallen short.

He was good, he was the reason for excitement. But coming into that draft was.

Don't worry if we don't get McDavid, Eichel will be close to as good.
- ImThatGuy

He was incredible last year

With Ralph freaking Krueger as coach