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c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:55 AM ET
Good post

Eichel's attitude, celebrating by himself ect.

Bye bye


Gonna miss his talent for sure. Bad attitude....no

- Boss34


Don't get me wrong, I was super excited when the Sabres drafted him, but he always seemed to have a chip on his shoulders. Maybe because he was always under McDavid? Maybe cause he was a Bruins Fan and always hated the Sabres as I hate the Bruins? I don't know, but he never seemed genuine. Maybe I see things differently now?
zdp1189
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2014

Jun 17 @ 9:55 AM ET
If we don’t mess these deals up better days could be here sooner rather than later
- realsabresfan11

Seems like another 3 years minimum unfortunately
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
If it's #3, Comtois, another prospect (not Zegras) and a cap dump, is it a fail?
- Powerslave

of course it is
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:57 AM ET
That 70% xGF% team is built and coached way differently than that other 70% xGF% team, and a different brand of hockey is played, and all the sudden a regular season weakness may turn into a playoff strength. At this stage I don't see that as quantifiable.

I like analytics but I don't appreciate the tunnel vision nerds being bent out of shape because "the better xGF% team lost"

- TheSabresTaco


i'm glad you said this...


DUCK!!!!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
analytics are never an indicator of short term success anyways

its like roulette. the house has an advantage. you might win betting on red 4 of 7 times, but if we start looking at a drawn out sample size, the house will be better.

and who would you rather be? the team that has an advantage, no matter how minimal the impact on a single game is? or would you rather be the guy betting on red, and saying i told you so to the house when you win this time?

- robz228



vegas beat the statistical juggernaut that was the colorado avalanche...in fact so did the dallas stars the year before and the san jose sharks the year before that...

kyle "king of analytics" dubas' toronto maple leafs have not made it out of the first round the last five seasons...

talent is great, except with the sabres who've totalled over ten first round picks playing for them at times yet still haven't gotten out of the basement other than a few steps up the stairs...

analytics can be a useful tool, but it's not the holy grail in hockey
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:04 AM ET
vegas beat the statistical juggernaut that was the colorado avalanche...in fact so did the dallas stars the year before and the san jose sharks the year before that...

kyle "king of analytics" dubas' toronto maple leafs have not made it out of the first round the last five seasons...

talent is great, except with the sabres who've totalled over ten first round picks playing for them at times yet still haven't gotten out of the basement other than a few steps up the stairs...

analytics can be a useful tool, but it's not the holy grail in hockey

- Michael Pachla


It can help you avoid Cody Eakin if you listen to it
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
It can help you avoid Cody Eakin if you listen to it
- Hank Balling

it has it's place...i get that...and i'm not against teams using them...too many people in the cottage industry of bubble graphs and spreadsheets act like it's some holy grail and get people to blindly believe what all those charts and stats tell them
realsabresfan11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
Elliot Friedman confirms Ducks and Sabres talking about Eichel via The Instigators
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
Elliot Friedman confirms Ducks and Sabres talking about Eichel via The Instigators
- realsabresfan11



👀👀👀👀👀👀
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
Don't get me wrong, I was super excited when the Sabres drafted him, but he always seemed to have a chip on his shoulders. Maybe because he was always under McDavid? Maybe cause he was a Bruins Fan and always hated the Sabres as I hate the Bruins? I don't know, but he never seemed genuine. Maybe I see things differently now?
- c1067



Maybe eichel's a crybaby boston kid that is very self centered?

I have an eichel Jersey, I've supported him for the past 6 seasons.

As a season ticket holder, he instantly provides on ice excitement. I'd rather see something different at this point.

Maybe a more team oriented approach?

Get (3) type 2C guys.

Cozensons
Mitts
Byfield/ hughes/ petterson

Hope 1 of these guys can play top minutes- 1B center?
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
vegas beat the statistical juggernaut that was the colorado avalanche...in fact so did the dallas stars the year before and the san jose sharks the year before that...

kyle "king of analytics" dubas' toronto maple leafs have not made it out of the first round the last five seasons...

talent is great, except with the sabres who've totalled over ten first round picks playing for them at times yet still haven't gotten out of the basement other than a few steps up the stairs...

analytics can be a useful tool, but it's not the holy grail in hockey

- Michael Pachla


yeah, and its a non story when the analytical favorite wins like they usually do, because they're usually the general favorite too

are you really going to say going in to next season you'd rather be montreal than toronto or colorado because they won more in the playoffs this season? of course not.

Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:14 AM ET
Maybe eichel's a crybaby boston kid that is very self centered?

I have an eichel Jersey, I've supported him for the past 6 seasons.

As a season ticket holder, he instantly provides on ice excitement. I'd rather see something different at this point.

Maybe a more team oriented approach?

Get (3) type 2C guys.

Cozensons
Mitts
Byfield/ hughes/ petterson

Hope 1 of these guys can play top minutes- 1B center?

- Boss34


1C Girgensons
2C Cozensons
3C Ruotsalainensons
4C Eakinsons
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:14 AM ET
Did someone not have his coffee yet!!🤭🤭
- Buff36


No, actually, just took my first sip. God damn zoom.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:14 AM ET
yeah, and its a non story when the analytical favorite wins like they usually do, because they're usually the general favorite too

are you really going to say going in to next season you'd rather be montreal than toronto or colorado because they won more in the playoffs this season? of course not.

- robz228

do you really need graphs, charts and spreadsheets to see just how good and talented the lanche and leafs are?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:15 AM ET
vegas beat the statistical juggernaut that was the colorado avalanche...in fact so did the dallas stars the year before and the san jose sharks the year before that...

kyle "king of analytics" dubas' toronto maple leafs have not made it out of the first round the last five seasons...

talent is great, except with the sabres who've totalled over ten first round picks playing for them at times yet still haven't gotten out of the basement other than a few steps up the stairs...

analytics can be a useful tool, but it's not the holy grail in hockey

- Michael Pachla

Vegas is a statistical juggernaut too
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 17 @ 10:16 AM ET
1C Girgensons
2C Cozensons
3C Ruotsalainensons
4C Eakinsons

- Hank Balling

Lot of sons
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:16 AM ET
Lot of sons
- Buff36


Sons are the new larries
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Jun 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
Sons are the new larries
- Hank Balling

Don't be saying that!!

No more Larry's!!!
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
vegas beat the statistical juggernaut that was the colorado avalanche...in fact so did the dallas stars the year before and the san jose sharks the year before that...

kyle "king of analytics" dubas' toronto maple leafs have not made it out of the first round the last five seasons...

talent is great, except with the sabres who've totalled over ten first round picks playing for them at times yet still haven't gotten out of the basement other than a few steps up the stairs...

analytics can be a useful tool, but it's not the holy grail in hockey

- Michael Pachla


Colorado was a better team this year than in years past. Devon Toews wasn’t there and Makar took another step. Kadri’s suspension didn’t help things either.

Toronto signed all truculence and traded for Foligno. They went against the analytics grain and when you build a top heavy team and lose an $11M Center, that doesn’t help.

robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
do you really need graphs, charts and spreadsheets to see just how good and talented the lanche and leafs are?
- Michael Pachla


no of course not, but it could help a team like toronto not overreact and sign wayne simmonds or jimmy vesey to try to fix their supposed problems

it could help a team like vegas not re-sign cody eakin despite having a great traditional statistic season and playoffs for them
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 10:18 AM ET

- Michael Pachla




You know, it really stinks down here. How often do some of your people take a bath?


Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
1C Girgensons
2C Cozensons
3C Ruotsalainensons
4C Eakinsons

- Hank Balling




1. C. Bjustead….
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
1C Girgensons
2C Cozensons
3C Ruotsalainensons
4C Eakinsons

- Hank Balling



🙂

For the record : not an eakins fan ☝️

Cozensons
Byfieldsons
Mittelstarsons
Girgensons

I still think LA ends up " paying the price" of byfieldsons
Just posturing now.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:20 AM ET


1. C. Bjustead….

- Gr8daygo


You're right. Absolutely right.

Bjusons cannot be denied
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:20 AM ET
I'm in the construction industry. Tore down an old school and hydroseeded the lot. It was either buy the tripod sprinklers or water a football field 4x a day by hand. No thank you
- Hank Balling


I know you guys do big stuff, but how about a bathroom
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