My god dude are you for real? No vaccine is 100% effective. If I'm vaccinated and some dumb (frank) isn't, and that person gets a new strain of the COVID, I can get sick from that person being a carrier.



It isn't discrimination. It's a matter of public health and personal health. Anyone who is anti-vax right now needs to be removed from society, I'm serious, your chimp genes need to go.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Your parents must be so proud of you.

It's relevant because the people in power like the government and corporations are pushing a untested un approved vaccine for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate. Anyone who doesn't want to take it will be discriminated upon and mocked. If I remember correctly it wasn't too long ago when a certain political group was bashing the vaccine, but now that they are in power they are signing a different tune. Let adults make their own decisions.
- c1067

You should be.

Your parents must be so proud of you.
- c1067

My parents are racist pieces of crap, so unless I show up in a white robe with a pointy hood and a confederate flag sash, they will never be proud of me. Plus I married a foreign woman.

Derk er jerbs.

interesting, can you share an article or something
- robz228

https://news.yahoo.com/cd...cases-ages-140826238.html

Thousands have died from complications from the vaccine.
- c1067

Maybe.

From the CDC website...

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 302 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

0.02% is ok
0.0017% is very, very bad

My parents are racist pieces of crap, so unless I show up in a white robe with a pointy hood and a confederate flag sash, they will never be proud of me. Plus I married a foreign woman.

Derk er jerbs.
- 3rd GM's the charm

TMI dude. I don't care.

Thousands have died from complications from the vaccine.
- c1067

Did you read the fine print in those reports?

If not I suggest you do.

Some died from suicide, others died from unrelated causes. If I’m not mistaken there was also a car crash involved in those stats.

No I’m not making that up.

Maybe.

From the CDC website...

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 302 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

0.02% is ok
0.0017% is very, very bad
- IonSabres

Still way more then all the other vaccines for like the last 20 years. Way more.

Maybe.

From the CDC website...

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 302 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

0.02% is ok
0.0017% is very, very bad
- IonSabres

Several of those deaths were suicides.
I read a lot of that report because it was going around social media and of course people don’t fact check.

You are correct. We don't know the long term effects of either Covid or vaccine. Maybe China knows the effects of Covid. I would also like to know the real numbers of the people that have died of Covid or the complications of Covid. But we may never know the answers to all of these questions.
- c1067

SHUT UP DUDE

Did you read the fine print in those reports?

If not I suggest you do.

Some died from suicide, others died from unrelated causes. If I’m not mistaken there was also a car crash involved in those stats.

No I’m not making that up.
- ImThatGuy

Fair enough. Do you read the fine print from Covid Deaths? Its the same thing. People may have died of Cancer but had covid there for they died of Covid. Hospitals were incentivized.

SHUT UP DUDE
- 3rd GM's the charm

Fair enough. Do you read the fine print from Covid Deaths? Its the same thing. People may have died of Cancer but had covid there for they died of Covid. Hospitals were incentivized.
- c1067

Agreed there. I’m not saying either way but people form an opinion based on stats they see with no context.

Nobody will ever know the correct answer.

Several of those deaths were suicides.
I read a lot of that report because it was going around social media and of course people don’t fact check.
- ImThatGuy

And every “Covid” death was from Covid 😂. There are Drs on TV that their hospitals forced them to list Covid on death certificate when it wasn’t the case but, ya we should listen to these billion dollar companies on how safe their vaccine is. I never saw an ad on TV saying a vaccine in the past now has complications and they are now getting sued. Oh wait...

Maybe.

From the CDC website...

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 302 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

0.02% is ok
0.0017% is very, very bad
- IonSabres

The 0.017% death rate aligns with the normal death rate un-related to COVID. Meaning a few thousand people that recently got the vaccine died from something that they statistically would have died from anyway had they not gotten the vaccine.

There have been only 2 deaths that have been directly linked to an approved vaccine in the US, and both were resultant from blood clots due to the J&J vaccine. 0 deaths have been directly linked to the Pfizer or Moderna shots.

I'm not weighing in on a vaccine mandate one way or the other, but it's important to properly comprehend the statistics.

"Thousands have died from the vaccine"

600,000 have died from the virus.

I know which one I trust more than the other but the fact that some people do not is evidence we needed this pandemic to cull the chimp genes floating around in our DNA still.

Fair enough. Do you read the fine print from Covid Deaths? Its the same thing. People may have died of Cancer but had covid there for they died of Covid. Hospitals were incentivized.
- c1067

My uncle died from non-smoker's lung cancer because the trial that he was set to participate in that likely would have saved his life was canceled because the hospital didn't want to take the risk of having immunocompromised people come to the hospital where they could likely catch and die from COVID.

His death was counted as a COVID-related death. If COVID wasn't a thing, he would still be alive. That has nothing to due with hospital incentives.

I agree. But when the FDA formally approves a drug or vaccine, there was a more stringent testing protocol. Also the virus is constantly mutating and these vaccines might not work in time. If people are really serious about beating this virus, they would take better care of themselves. Lose weight, quit smoking and try to get some exercise. We know this virus really goes after people that are obese. The people who are elderly, need to be protected at all costs. If that means a unproven vaccine, then so be it. But they shouldn't be pressured or discriminated upon. That is just ,my opinion. I don't mock people who get or people who don't get it.
- c1067

Well, no one wants to protect the "elderly" and other people that have immune deficiencies by wearing a mask. You stop the mutations by stopping the spread of the virus. Who is discriminated on?

My uncle died from non-smoker's lung cancer because the trial that he was set to participate in that likely would have saved his life was canceled because the the hospital didn't want to take the risk of having immunocompromised people come to the hospital where they could likely catch and die from COVID.

His death was counted as a COVID-related death. If COVID wasn't a thing, he would still be alive. That has nothing to due with hospital incentives.
- tkecanuck341

You should come here more often

Well, no one wants to protect the "elderly" and other people that have immune deficiencies by wearing a mask. You stop the mutations by stopping the spread of the virus. Who is discriminated on?
- atlsabsfan

It's pretty bad when even people from other blogs had to come in and try to talk some sense into this dude who only posts in our blog like 15 times a year.

My uncle died from non-smoker's lung cancer because the trial that he was set to participate in that likely would have saved his life was canceled because the the hospital didn't want to take the risk of having immunocompromised people come to the hospital where they could likely catch and die from COVID.

His death was counted as a COVID-related death. If COVID wasn't a thing, he would still be alive. That has nothing to due with hospital incentives.
- tkecanuck341

The hospital could have secured a wing in the hospital to treat cancer patients. Look at the USS Mercy that was sent to New York City to help with the out break. They didn't even use the ship. I am sorry for your loss.

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-heart-inflammation-cases-ages-140826238.html
- Fattony1187

Learn to read
The agency said it is still assessing the risk from the condition and has not yet concluded that there was a causal relationship between the vaccines and cases of myocarditis or pericarditis.

It's pretty bad when even people from other blogs had to come in and try to talk some sense into this dude who only posts in our blog like 15 times a year.
- 3rd GM's the charm

15 times a year? Sorry I have a life where I don't spend it on Hockey Buzz trolling people with stupid comments like "My parents are racist and I married a foreigner".

The hospital could have secured a wing in the hospital to treat cancer patients. Look at the USS Mercy that was sent to New York City to help with the out break. They didn't even use the ship. I am sorry for your loss.
- c1067

I'm not saying that more couldn't have been done to save the lives of people that died. This was in January when California was hit the hardest. The hospital was overflowing with COVID patients, and the other wings of the hospital were reserved for non-COVID ICU and ER (i.e. trauma patients).

Had the trial been scheduled 2 months earlier, he likely wouldn't have died. While the cancer is what ultimately killed him, COVID is what caused his death.

My only point was that cancer deaths reported as COVID deaths aren't due to financial incentives for the hospital.

Still way more then all the other vaccines for like the last 20 years. Way more.
- c1067

You seemed to have glossed over the "causal relationship" has not been determined yet.

5,000 bad
600,000 not bad