to be fair to Scabby, I think he was simply referring to Weber's package only
- PatC80

On that I agree.

Top players face top competition, that's how it should be... Marner doesn't get a free pass..

Marner failed
- PatC80

Well, someone is trying to make Nylander look like the top player. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I was just using common sense as to why his stats would be lower...especially if we’re going back years.


This year I agree, the top line failed when they shouldn’t have and he was terrible for the most...still doesn’t make Nylander better. Scoring and getting scored on just as much isn’t much better then what Marner and Matthews did.

Let Hyman go and trade for Travis Kopechny. He's available. 5.5 per and only 24. Signed long-term. He's LW.
- RogerRoeper

This reminds me of ChappaquidRichard.

Can’t even write ChappaquidRichard.

LOL 😂
ChappaquidRichard
ChappaquidRichard

ChappaquidRichard

Let Hyman go and trade for Travis Kopechny. He's available. 5.5 per and only 24. Signed long-term. He's LW.
- RogerRoeper

I hope the Leafs can get Konecny

I was hoping to see another Leaf Stanley Cup in my lifetime. Leafs have been damn good at reducing my hopes to simply see them winning a single round in the playoffs, and I have doubt that will even happen. I believe they call this Aethapy.

Mitch’s feelings hurt:
Don’t care.

Mitch boo’d out of Toronto:
Don’t care.

Trade anyone/everyone:
Don’t care.

Leaf UFA’s walk:
Don’t care.

UFA signings:
Don’t care.

Expansion Draft loss:
Don’t care.

Fire Keefe:
Don’t care.

Fire Dubas:
Don’t care.

Fire Shanny:
Don’t care.

Habs Canada’s Team:
Good for them.

Leafs win President’s Trophy next year:
Don’t care.

Trolls flood these Leaf blogs:
Don’t care.

Leafs finally win a playoff round:
Care a little.
- Woderwick

co-sign

*pulls on the 47*
- Garnie

It just seems like you're making excuses for Marner.
Why wouldn't the guy making $10.9M per season face tougher competition?
Also, he should be able to produce against any line, not get scared of his own shadow..
- PatC80

We’ll disagree on “scared of his own shadow”

I’ve never noticed him leave a puck to avoid a hit.

Now, if we’re talking about always trying to be fancy and it causing some bad situations I’d agree 100%

Flipping the puck over the glass was him being fancy, not being scared. IMO

Well, someone is trying to make Nylander look like the top player. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I was just using common sense as to why his stats would be lower...especially if we’re going back years.


This year I agree, the top line failed when they shouldn’t have and he was terrible for the most...still doesn’t make Nylander better. Scoring and getting scored on just as much isn’t much better then what Marner and Matthews did.
- Garnie

no, not really.. Just pointing out that Nylander has been better in the playoffs, you know, like when it matters?
It just means unlike Nylander, Marner has not been able to produce in the playoffs... We don't need a $10.9M winger that can't handle playoff hockey

Has anyone ever seen Mitch Marner and Garnie in the same room?

this Weekend at BErnies tour of Europe is perhaps the funniest thing ever created. Comedic gold

We’ll disagree on “scared of his own shadow”

I’ve never noticed him leave a puck to avoid a hit.

Now, if we’re talking about always trying to be fancy and it causing some bad situations I’d agree 100%

Flipping the puck over the glass was him being fancy, not being scared. IMO
- Garnie

flipping the puck over the glass when on the PK is not being fancy, it's being scared to take a hit, and yes, Marner did leave a puck to avoid a hit at least twice in the Habs series.

Has anyone ever seen Mitch Marner and Garnie in the same room?
- senstroll

Gitch Marner
Mitch Garner

We’ll disagree on “scared of his own shadow”

I’ve never noticed him leave a puck to avoid a hit.

Now, if we’re talking about always trying to be fancy and it causing some bad situations I’d agree 100%

Flipping the puck over the glass was him being fancy, not being scared. IMO
- Garnie

Disagree on this one, he'll eat a big piece of sh!t to not get hit and will not hit opponents. Reaching in with your stick (cowardly alternative) works sometimes, but sometimes leads to a rush going the other way with Mitchy sucking a hind tit. I still maintain it is up to the coaching staff to change this. Maybe training with Rocky Balboa in the summer and getting a few good punches in the gut will help him.

Let Hyman go and trade for Travis Kopechny. He's available. 5.5 per and only 24. Signed long-term. He's LW.
- RogerRoeper

Dermott and Bracco for Konecny?

Dermott and Bracco for Konecny?
- Atomic Wedgie

Leafs at least have to add the rights to Marincin

Disagree on this one, he'll eat a big piece of sh!t to not get hit and will not hit opponents. Reaching in with your stick (cowardly alternative) works sometimes, but sometimes leads to a rush going the other way with Mitchy sucking a hind tit. I still maintain it is up to the coaching staff to change this. Maybe training with Rocky Balboa in the summer and getting a few good punches in the gut will help him.
- winsix

Well, someone is trying to make Nylander look like the top player. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I was just using common sense as to why his stats would be lower...especially if we’re going back years.


This year I agree, the top line failed when they shouldn’t have and he was terrible for the most...still doesn’t make Nylander better. Scoring and getting scored on just as much isn’t much better then what Marner and Matthews did.
- Garnie

Hmmm...

Nylander = 5g, 3a, +3
Marner = 0g, 4a, +1

Nylander didn't get scored on "just as much"....although the same argument could be made for Nylander's line mates and defensemen were not the Leafs best so can he be blamed for all GAs...the best Leafs would be playing with Marner.

Carey Price was in net for both players, one player scored goals and the other didn't.

I guess we could check what D men or Forwards were on the ice for the Habs when Nylander scored too.

Your excuses for Marner don't hold water. He's paid more than other top talent in the league. He's paid to help the team win. He fu3king failed epically. His cap hit is now screwing up the whole make up of the team and good playoff performers are going to have to leave because we can't afford them - ie Hyman, he's making players around him NOT better, AND we DON'T get passed the 1st Round.... and all of this is because he under performs.

If he played in the playoffs like he plays regular season, I would have no problem with him or his Cap hit. He doesn't. He hasn't. He needs to go....so we can actually build the team to win a round at least.

Marner took TOO MUCH MONEY, somebody in his camp was really greedy, and now Marner is not living up to that. Plain and simple.

Dermott and Bracco for Konecny?
- Atomic Wedgie

pitchers are mad cuz they cant put crazy glue on their hands to throw baseballs

is this real life

Hmmm...

Nylander = 5g, 3a, +3
Marner = 0g, 4a, +1

Nylander didn't get scored on "just as much"....although the same argument could be made for Nylander's line mates and defensemen were not the Leafs best so can he be blamed for all GAs...the best Leafs would be playing with Marner.

Carey Price was in net for both players, one player scored goals and the other didn't.

I guess we could check what D men or Forwards were on the ice for the Habs when Nylander scored too.

Your excuses for Marner don't hold water. He's paid more than other top talent in the league. He's paid to help the team win. He fu3king failed epically. His cap hit is now screwing up the whole make up of the team and good playoff performers are going to have to leave because we can't afford them - ie Hyman, he's making players around him NOT better, AND we DON'T get passed the 1st Round.... and all of this is because he under performs.

If he played in the playoffs like he plays regular season, I would have no problem with him or his Cap hit. He doesn't. He hasn't. He needs to go....so we can actually build the team to win a round at least.

Marner took TOO MUCH MONEY, somebody in his camp was really greedy, and now Marner is not living up to that. Plain and simple.
- underhill14

Maybe Carey Price just felt pity for Nylander and let him score?

pitchers are mad cuz they cant put crazy glue on their hands to throw baseballs

is this real life
- senstroll

Apparently, it's the reason for elbow/shoulder injuries

flipping the puck over the glass when on the PK is not being fancy, it's being scared to take a hit, and yes, Marner did leave a puck to avoid a hit at least twice in the Habs series.
- PatC80

Can’t agree here. Mitch took much more time to flip the puck with the toe of his stick than required if he was scared. I agree with Garnie, Mitch is more interested in how he looks on the ice rather than the results. Can’t be boring and like the rest of those other guys.

Islanders will regress next year. book it
- RogerRoeper

You said this 2 years ago. And last season too. Someday you'll be right. Just like Mike in Basement about Leafs trading Willie.

Maybe Carey Price just felt pity for Nylander and let him score?
- PatC80

Maybe Keefe had a brain cramp and instead of loading up a line of players that were effective say Nylander/Kerfoot/Matthews, he saddles Matthews with Marner and Thornton and like a stubborn brick-head wouldn't change it.

4-5 years ago, yes. Now ... not so much.

- Nasty_Duck

Weber no longer scores on his shots from the point. He still takes just as many.