It doesn't work like that. Every GM in the league takes the current number 2 pick who comes with years of salary and player control, and signficantly higher potential over the 55 to 60 point number 2 pick that is 25 years old, not under contract, and on his last RFA years.

It would take another significant piece. An A prospect? I doubt the second round pick even comes close.

PS Vegas loaded up on draft picks with trades in their first draft. They weren't trading them away for middling players.
- prock

No, they don't, since only ONE team has that pick.

The entire idea revolves around a sign and trade, which I stated in my post.

If I'm a team like Vegas, and I have a choice of a player who will help the team 3 years from now, or a player who helps the team now, while their window is open, it's a pretty easy choice.

I even elaborated enough in my post that your response is just, ugh. Why do I even bother? You only read every other sentence, if that.

Just go get your vax so I can take my damn mask off at work.

Reinharts a proven commodity as where the 2nd over all in a weak draft has done nothing.
Names that come to mind at high picks, Alexander Daigle, Alexi Yashin, Nail Yakopov.

So, when valuing your 2nd on, it doesn’t compare.

- Just because nothing is imminent doesn't mean he won't be traded

- I never said he would absolutely be traded, so I won't be surprised if he's in a Sabres sweater next season

- You did disagree. You literally said "that's not true" to "basically the whole thing" that I wrote

- I'm still not seeing you post any evidence of a particularly large amount of leverage that the Sabres have, should they decide to move on from him

And just so we're clear, saying the Sabres don't have a lot of leverage doesn't mean they wouldn't get a good haul for him in a trade. It just means that they probably won't get fair-market value for a player of Eichel's caliber
- eichiefs9

Have any of you given thought to the other contract that’s a part of the Eichel package? Like the insurance policy the Sabres pay for loss of services.
Experimental medical anything nullifies the policy. So all you armchair gm’s vilify the Sabres when they have to protect themselves from the loss?

So because Jack says this or that the Sabres should fold tent and lose the protection?

This is horrible news. Keep Sam and get rid of crybaby Jack who has caused the team to lose for all these years. He is a prima donna and the rest of the players detest him.
- FireRuff

I concur.

It doesn't work like that. Every GM in the league takes the current number 2 pick who comes with years of salary and player control, and signficantly higher potential over the 55 to 60 point number 2 pick that is 25 years old, not under contract, and on his last RFA years.

It would take another significant piece. An A prospect? I doubt the second round pick even comes close.

PS Vegas loaded up on draft picks with trades in their first draft. They weren't trading them away for middling players.
- prock

Sams not a middling player and gm’s know that. Don’t undervalue an established player for a maybe with a maybe upside.

Nolan Patrick (frank)ing sucks.

Sam Reinhart doesn't.

Pretty simple.

Just entering his prime, is a 25-goal, 50-70 point guy, very consistent, doesn't take dumb penalties, is one of the best front-of-net players in the NHL and is defensively responsible.

That determines his trade value.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I can actually see the Rangers going after Reinhardt instead of Eichel. To me that would make more sense for them rather then giving up to much for Eichel. They would have pretty decent center depth adding him and would push strome out or down the line up.

Nolan Patrick (frank)ing sucks.

Sam Reinhart doesn't.

Pretty simple.

Just entering his prime, is a 25-goal, 50-70 point guy, very consistent, doesn't take dumb penalties, is one of the best front-of-net players in the NHL and is defensively responsible.

That determines his trade value.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I know Patrick for Reinhart isn't a fair trade, that's why I used it as an example. You said that since Reinhart was a 2nd overall, he is fair value for the current 2nd overall. That's not how it works.

Take Reinhardt and Okposo and give Buffalo Seattle's #1 pick (#2 Overall). Should Buffalo throw in a 2nd Round pick to sweeten the deal?

Thoughts?
- LarryDingee

I suggest that if this is the route, you can have Seattle keep their First round pick for 2021 and get their first round pick for 2022 in a much better draft, thus increasing Buffalo odds and percentages to obtain the #1 overall for 2022.

Nolan Patrick (frank)ing sucks.

Sam Reinhart doesn't.

Pretty simple.

Just entering his prime, is a 25-goal, 50-70 point guy, very consistent, doesn't take dumb penalties, is one of the best front-of-net players in the NHL and is defensively responsible.

That determines his trade value.
- BeadyEyedDouche

The 2nd overall will be the first pick in Seattle franchise history.

Even with the uncertainty of this draft, they're not trading it for Sam Rienhart.

And I like Reinhart as a player.

The 2nd overall will be the first pick in Seattle franchise history.

Even with the uncertainty of this draft, they're not trading it for Sam Rienhart.

And I like Reinhart as a player.
- david22

Don't think it even had anything to do with Rhino, wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with a swap of 1 and 2 and what it will take. But with what Friedman said, I think Buffalo will still get a very good return for Rhino, and it sounds like it will be a top 10, he specifically mentioned 3-5-8. 5 or 8 seems not out of the realm. I think 3 would have to do with Eichel.

Hawks need a #4 center. Stan your move

No, they don't, since only ONE team has that pick.

The entire idea revolves around a sign and trade, which I stated in my post.

If I'm a team like Vegas, and I have a choice of a player who will help the team 3 years from now, or a player who helps the team now, while their window is open, it's a pretty easy choice.

I even elaborated enough in my post that your response is just, ugh. Why do I even bother? You only read every other sentence, if that.

Just go get your vax so I can take my damn mask off at work.
- BeadyEyedDouche

sIgN aNd TrAdE

I can actually see the Rangers going after Reinhardt instead of Eichel. To me that would make more sense for them rather then giving up to much for Eichel. They would have pretty decent center depth adding him and would push strome out or down the line up.
- Cptmjl

Sean Monahan career stats:
GP 591, G 204, AST 235, PTS 439, F/O WINNING % 50.2
Sam Reinhart career stats:
GP 454, G 134, AST 161, PTS 295, F/O WINNING % 38.8

Which Center has a higher trade value?

Kuznetsov for Reinhart

Sams not a middling player and gm’s know that. Don’t undervalue an established player for a maybe with a maybe upside.
- MLew65

Depends on what you consider middling. He's good, not great. Good complementary player, will never be one of the stars on a top team.

No, they don't, since only ONE team has that pick.

The entire idea revolves around a sign and trade, which I stated in my post.

If I'm a team like Vegas, and I have a choice of a player who will help the team 3 years from now, or a player who helps the team now, while their window is open, it's a pretty easy choice.

I even elaborated enough in my post that your response is just, ugh. Why do I even bother? You only read every other sentence, if that.

Just go get your vax so I can take my damn mask off at work.
- BeadyEyedDouche

There are no GMs, if given the choice, would take Reinhart over the second overall.